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Posted on 04/27/2006 8:01:57 AM PDT by Tribune7
I’m happy to report that I was in constant correspondence with Ann regarding her chapters on Darwinism — indeed, I take all responsibility for any errors in those chapters. :-)
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Out for the night, cheers!
Hmmm, 930 years? It seems they mixed up 'years' and 'months'.
Now 77 years makes a lot more sense.
Unconnected to a person's accepting evolution... or being a creationist.
As night follows day....
SOMEBODY made a reference to EVOLUTION and CHRISTIANITY.
I wonder who?
Not if you have no god.
Sure there was. The question NOW is:
Was there more or less then?
Yes. I do. If we take age-specific death rates for the United States in the year 2000 after age 35, they fit very nicely to a function R = 6.62 exp(0.0842 a), where a is the age. This function gives an absolute life-span of 114 years, which agrees nicely with the oldest verifable age for an American, at 115 years. People in other countries have lived a little longer. But nobody, anywhere has been dcoumented to live past 129.
So in a modern Western country, people live to a maximum of 115. Death rates rise exponentially with age, and so it is statistically impossible for a person to live to 200, let alone to 930.
Depends on which time periods you are comparing, and which sins. Also depends on the availability and accuracy of statistics. My recollection from what I've read is that crime was very high in America between the Civil War and World War I, very low between WWI and WWII, gradually rising from WWII until the 1980s and gradually falling since.
Death rates rise exponentially with age...sure. How do we know that the current exponential rate rise is the same as the rate rise in Adam's day?
Do you have any evidence that they are the same...or are you making an assumption?
There is more sin than reported crime...so reported crime statistics, alone, are not a good measure.
I recognized that in my prior post. But it would be impossible to make any sort of estimate as to rates of sin at various times. For crimes, there are at least statistics (albeit flawed, especially the older ones).
Because there ha s been no substantial change in the metabolism or genetics of humans.
Death rates rise exponentially with age...sure. How do we know that the current exponential rate rise is the same as the rate rise in Adam's day?
In Adam's day it was likely far worse. I doubt anyone made it past 70.
Do you have any evidence that they are the same...or are you making an assumption
Yes, I do. Several human groups diverged from our line far longer ago than several thousand years. If we and there share the same characteristics, notably genetically-driven causes of mortality, then our common ancestor possessed the same characteristics.
Much more sin now. People are doing it on the sidewalks, even in the streets! I'm looking out my window and the whole landscape is filled with throbbing, writhing couples -- and groups -- all chanting Darwin, Darwin! That guy unleashed an avalanche of sin.
I'll send you a thank you card ;-).
Is it possible that a "genetic mutation" ocurred altering the characteristics, and the genetically-driven causes of mortality, from that of our ancestors (Adam)?
Maybe "environmental pressures" created a change in the population related to these characteristics?
We just have to keep it all in neat little compartments. Science over here, and religion over there. We must see to it that this understanding is established as the law of the land.
What baffles me is how quick we are to mark human craftsmanship without direct revelation from a human who happens to design and build an artifact, but in order to be "scientifically" inferred or assumed, the Creator must directly and at all times manifest His creative and sustaining power.
Just like E.
Really? Give us an actual example, with citation of a statement of specific odds provided in evolutionary biology without support for the odds given. We'll wait. We'll wait a loooong time, because you're all mouth and no substance.
The tenets of evolution ring true with godlessness, particularly as they reject the authority and accuracy of the biblical texts. It would be a mistake, however, to categorize all godless people as politically left, much as it is a mistake to categorize all proponents of intelligent design as creationists (i.e. people who do not reject the authority and accuracy of the biblical texts).
It is impossible that Adam was the ancestor of all humanity, if he lived in the Middle East a mere 6000 years ago. Humans have been in the New World at least 10,000 years, and probably longer. Aborigines have been Australia at least 40,000 years.
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