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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Chena; Reagan Man

Oh okay. Thanks for the recap. I’m with you, Fred all the way. Hunter also sounds like a great guy. I think he’d be a good VP for Fred.

I think people are just going a bit nutty right now. It was shocking to see these “supposed” Fred supporters like Howlin, actually pulling for Rudy. People are just a bit paranoid right now.

Hang in there. They could be after me next, lol...cause I’m sure at some point I said I would vote for whoever the Republican candidate was, regardless. Which I will. Just can’t vote for a Democrat.

Run Fred Run!!


15,881 posted on 04/29/2007 10:52:36 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: Reagan Man; Jim Robinson
You're paranoid.

Nice way to start off with a baseless ad hominem attack.

Recent events are good reasons to celebrate and be happy. Its the rebirth of conservatism on FR.

A rebirth of conservatism of FR where those who would dare to fact check or dissent due to an atmosphere of fear created by a very small group of FReepers isn't a good a good thing.

You may want to turn this site into an echo chamber for your views, but it is really not in this forum's best interest. Some of my best posts have come BECAUSE those who disagree have questioned what I said. And I doubt I'm the only FReeper who can say that.

If you don't like the current direction Jim`s taking this forum, no good reason for you to hang around.

The main problem I have with the direction Jim has taken lately is that forum rules haven't been followed on this thread and elsewhere.

The posting page alternatively says "Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts." Yet some posters have called current and former FReepers "b&#ches" and other profane names and have personally attacked other FReepers - without being admonished by an Admin Moderator to "knock it off" or having their comments deleted. In particular, profanity was never tolerated before. I don't understand why it has been on this thread.

While I'm not happy some FReepers have been banned, it's Jim's house, and I recognize he can ban whomever he wants.

By the way, do you understand why telling FReepers in good standing there is "no good reason for you to hang around" or "enter the bug zapper" is offensive to many of us?
15,882 posted on 04/29/2007 10:53:43 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: sissyjane
I’m quite sure you are EV.

LOL!

15,883 posted on 04/29/2007 10:53:57 PM PDT by Gelato (... a liberal is a liberal is a liberal ...)
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To: sissyjane

What do you mean, former freeper?


15,884 posted on 04/29/2007 10:55:33 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: EternalVigilance
Where were you when the dearly departed were intimidating, namecalling and being infinitely uncivil for the last few years?

As I've said numerous times before on this thread, I have largely been avoiding the [insert name of Republican presidential candidate here] bash-a-palooza threads, and didn't see much of what you claim was on there.

But I have been known to admonish FReepers to generally think before they post before, which has lead some FReepers in the past to claim that I'm trying to censor them by asking them to think a second.
15,885 posted on 04/29/2007 10:57:09 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: Chena
>>>>>I mentioned that IF after all is said and done, Giuliani becomes the Republican candidate I will vote Republican...which means I’d be voting for him.

Looks like you finally got tired of seeing me post the truth of your own words. You stopped spewing falsehoods and acknowledged what you posted. Except you did say you'd support and vote for Rudy. Remember?

>>>>>Someone named Reagan Man has taken that to mean that I am a Rudy-Bot, Rudy Supporter, yata yata. Which is as far from the truth as one can get. He has gone out of his way to lie about my position, and personally attack my credibility.

Someone named Reagan Man exposed you for the whining RudyBooster you are. Plain and simple. You've damaged your own credibility by attempting to obfuscate your past remarks. Joining that new anti-FReeper website didn't help your position either.

You dolt!

15,886 posted on 04/29/2007 10:59:11 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: conservative in nyc

Yeah right. Liberals bash conservatives left and right, and not a peep out of you. But when they get their butts handed to them, you whine to high heaven.

You may be a “conservative in nyc,” kinda like Rooty, but everywhere else you’re just another liberal trying to fool people.

That’s my opinion and I’m sticking with it.


15,887 posted on 04/29/2007 10:59:16 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: EternalVigilance

bump


15,888 posted on 04/29/2007 11:05:04 PM PDT by BykrBayb (I've had a howlingly good week, and I'm feeling just peachy. Þ)
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To: rockrr
Hi everybody! Didja miss me?!




So, as we bring the lights down on another day of thrills and spills, the burning question is - will the sissy ride the lightening? Tune in tommorow for all the gripping drama!
15,889 posted on 04/29/2007 11:05:11 PM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: conservative in nyc
By the way, do you understand why telling FReepers in good standing there is "no good reason for you to hang around" or "enter the bug zapper" is offensive to many of us

It's also offensive for someone to publicly state "they wish to be removed"......and then keep posting and insulting people. Makes no sense.

I was told I had a wideass, but I'm not whining about it. Granted, I've been looking for the tape measure ever since.

15,890 posted on 04/29/2007 11:06:09 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: conservative in nyc; Sidebar Moderator
The Sidebar Moderator is your friend, I’ve learned. Saved me from embarrassment a few days ago. Kinda like a designated, sober poster if you’re posting while wasted. Helps edit my nonsense and correct my indiscretions. :O)
15,891 posted on 04/29/2007 11:07:20 PM PDT by jdm (The Sidebar Moderator is your friend.)
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To: Gelato

!!YIKES!! Your Somebody Else “AND” There’s A “Poo~Flingin’
Monkey” Loose In Here !! (I hear Ka-Zoo music)...;0)

(lookin’ all around)...


15,892 posted on 04/29/2007 11:09:57 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Shortstop7; sissyjane
It's also offensive for someone to publicly state "they wish to be removed"......and then keep posting and insulting people. Makes no sense.

I was told I had a wideass, but I'm not whining about it. Granted, I've been looking for the tape measure ever since.


I really don't get that either.
15,893 posted on 04/29/2007 11:13:39 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: Hildy
"I support Rudy Guiliani for President in 2008."

Ferd Thompson 2008!!!!!

All your transpositions belong to....

15,894 posted on 04/29/2007 11:14:13 PM PDT by jdm (The Sidebar Moderator is your friend.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m just a lurker really. I’ve never gotten involved in any of the personal fights, and I am as unknown here as could be.

But I am not out of touch.

I know who the trolls are (were) and I know who the real conservatives are.

I’m just coming out to say GOD BLESS YOU for this spring cleaning.

It was way over due and I like I am sure MANY have avoided posting about God and Country because of those former troublemakers never debated, they just got personal and nasty.

As Sam Adams said, it doesn’t take a majority, just an irate minority to set fires.

And sometimes those fires are for evil ends.... they did.

They nearly burned this site to the ground chasing off real conservatives and making it miserable for those who dared to stay and fight them.

But that’s no longer the sad case on FR any more and I am THRILLED to see what I am seeing now.

So I just wanted to say it, to be on record, to add my one small voice to the growing cry of Liberty...

GOD BLESS YOU JIM !!


15,895 posted on 04/29/2007 11:16:58 PM PDT by RachelFaith
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To: Shortstop7
I was told I had a wideass...

Did you ever consider they may have thought that was a compliment? Maybe that's their way of inviting you to the WA forum. (Oh, I think I just figured out what WA stands for.) Don't take it personally. They obviously just posted to the wrong person.

15,896 posted on 04/29/2007 11:17:35 PM PDT by BykrBayb (I've had a howlingly good week, and I'm feeling just peachy. Þ)
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To: conservative in nyc
The days of liberalism and Rudyism are ending quickly. Conservatism is the only acceptable political game on FR anymore. Read the following, you might find it helpful.

“How many times must I say FR is a conservative site? We do not support abortionism, homosexualism, feminisim, environmentalism, gun control, liberalism, socialism, etc, etc, etc. When I say I suspect we will become even more conservative than we already are, possibly via attrition if nothing else, what do you think I’m referring to? When FR starts pushing hard and I mean hard against abortion, gay marriage, homosexual education forced on our school children, pandering to illegal aliens, gun control, McCaine-Feingold type usurpation, global warming, etc, etc, even if supported or advanced by the GOP, then I fully suspect certain types of moderate/liberal Republican supporters are probably going to be a little uncomfortable here. We will be fighting for traditional American conservatism no matter who we have to fight against and I’m afraid that’s going to piss off some folks.”

~~~ Jim Robinson, 3/2/07 LINK

15,897 posted on 04/29/2007 11:18:35 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Bizarre.


15,898 posted on 04/29/2007 11:18:54 PM PDT by Gelato (... a liberal is a liberal is a liberal ...)
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To: Mo1

I’ve been thinking, and have decided it is time for something completely different around here.

Earlier today, you and I had another in a long line of mutually snarky exchanges. Similar exchanges have been going on for a number of years, off and on.

Now, I’m not going to say that I can just forget everything that happened in the past, on the Keyes threads, etc., or that I will probably ever like the people that are now gone from here and that [correct me if I’m wrong] were or are your friends.

But, you are supporting a fine man for President, Duncan Hunter. He’s an American hero. That is commendable. I commend you.

You’re also very restrained, very factual, and very intelligent, in your posting here.

You’re a good American, a patriot, and a solid conservative, and, if I’m not mistaken, and I don’t think I am, a good Christian who loves and cares for their family deeply.

You’re not the enemy. Far from it.

So, I want to apologize for every snarky comment I’ve ever made to you, and I make a commitment now to use far more wisdom and restraint in how I respond to you in the future. Please accept my apologies.


15,899 posted on 04/29/2007 11:22:06 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: Gelato

I’ve seen much of that in the last week...


15,900 posted on 04/29/2007 11:23:16 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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