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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: RexTheRunt
To pass a law banning abortion even in the case of rape or incest (which is what I think most pro-lifers want) would be a lot tougher, and yes, hearts and minds do come into play in that case.

If you don't mind, I would like to interject a thought.

How does one enforce a law that allows abortion in the case of rape?

15,861 posted on 04/29/2007 10:23:13 PM PDT by Gelato (... a liberal is a liberal is a liberal ...)
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To: Chena

Chena, you have an abuse button. If someone is that rude and obnoxious they will be dealt with by the moderators.


15,862 posted on 04/29/2007 10:25:13 PM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: conservative in nyc
>>>>It is a reason to mourn.

You're paranoid. Recent events are good reasons to celebrate and be happy. Its the rebirth of conservatism on FR. You see it as a funeral or burial. If you don't like the current direction Jim`s taking this forum, no good reason for you to hang around.

15,863 posted on 04/29/2007 10:27:34 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Elyse

One would hope that the moderators would respond to such things, but lately they’ve been quite busy. And this isn’t a question of “if” someone is that rude and obnoxious. Anyone can read through this thread and see how I have again and again explained my position to no avail. Some people are just sick in the head.


15,864 posted on 04/29/2007 10:28:50 PM PDT by Chena (Why settle for less when you could have the best! Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: Gelato

“How does one enforce a law that allows abortion in the case of rape?”

Wow! I never thought about the can of worms that could open up within the legal system.


15,865 posted on 04/29/2007 10:28:51 PM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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To: sissyjane
"FLING~POO~TOO"(opus played on a KA~ZOO).;0) Image and video hosting by TinyPic
15,866 posted on 04/29/2007 10:29:45 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: EternalVigilance

Honey-bunney

YOU are the epitome of wimp.


15,867 posted on 04/29/2007 10:30:56 PM PDT by sissyjane (Fred!!)
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To: sissyjane

Coward. You don’t have the courage to just quit posting. Is Hildy your mentor?


15,868 posted on 04/29/2007 10:32:59 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: Chena

Chena, what’s your position? What are you talking about?

It would take two weeks of vacation to go thru this thread. I read the first 1500 posts.......and these near the end.

So what are you upset about?

imho, JimRob has every right to run this site as he sees fit.

This whole ordeal just didn’t blow up in the last couple of days. I’m glad to see it happen, because we did need a housekeeping job done here.

Best wishes.


15,869 posted on 04/29/2007 10:33:01 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: EternalVigilance

Is Gelato yours?


15,870 posted on 04/29/2007 10:39:20 PM PDT by sissyjane (Fred!!)
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To: Chena
>>>>>Some people are just sick in the head.

You're the one who posted words to the effect, that you'd be willing to support and vote for Rudy and you have the gall to say I'm sick in the head. LOL

Reminder: zing me, ping me.

15,871 posted on 04/29/2007 10:39:56 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: sissyjane

bump...;0)


15,872 posted on 04/29/2007 10:40:07 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: sissyjane
Yep—some of you wide-asses will need it.

Excuse me, you don't know a thing about the size of my a**. (It's quite small, by the way)

I know a lot about the size of your brain. (It's quite small by the way)

15,873 posted on 04/29/2007 10:40:23 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: ansel12
Wow! I never thought about the can of worms that could open up within the legal system.

Makes you wonder what was behind that proposal to begin with.

When you consider the length of trials, and charges of statutory rape, it would be quite a legal mess (not to mention the potential loopholes).

Better to just come down on the side of the unalienable right of the child to live, regardless of how he was conceived.

15,874 posted on 04/29/2007 10:40:46 PM PDT by Gelato (... a liberal is a liberal is a liberal ...)
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To: Shortstop7; Reagan Man

I support the best conservative Republican candidate we can find...and IMO, that is Fred Thompson. Duncan Hunter is also on my top two list. At the BOTTOM of my list is Giuliani. On this thread I mentioned that IF after all is said and done, Giuliani becomes the Republican candidate I will vote Republican...which means I’d be voting for him.

Someone named Reagan Man has taken that to mean that I am a Rudy-Bot, Rudy Supporter, yata yata. Which is as far from the truth as one can get. He has gone out of his way to lie about my position, and personally attack my credibility.

He refuses to read my posting history which would clearly prove that I am NOT in any way, shape, or form, a Rudi Giuliani supporter. So I give up. This person has some serious issues, and they aren’t my problem. Those that know me here know better than to believe the lies this person is spouting about me.

I have never disagreed that JR has the right to run this forum as he wishes. I would, however, encourage him to reign in some of the attack dogs that are harming, not helping our conservative cause.

Best wishes to you too, Shortstop7. If you’d like a condensed version of the comments made between Reagan Man and myself, I would encourage you to read both of our posting histories for the past day or two. :)


15,875 posted on 04/29/2007 10:42:35 PM PDT by Chena (Why settle for less when you could have the best! Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: sissyjane
I'm flattered.

Thanks.

15,876 posted on 04/29/2007 10:42:40 PM PDT by Gelato (... a liberal is a liberal is a liberal ...)
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To: Gelato
How does one enforce a law that allows abortion in the case of rape?

You would only allow abortions in cases of reported rape. A lot of people don't like that approach because they think a women shouldn't be forced to report a rape, but I think that is the only way you could enforce it.

15,877 posted on 04/29/2007 10:44:54 PM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Gelato

I’m quite sure you are EV.


15,878 posted on 04/29/2007 10:47:02 PM PDT by sissyjane (Fred!!)
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To: Elyse
You would only allow abortions in cases of reported rape.

Do you realize the loophole that creates?

15,879 posted on 04/29/2007 10:51:45 PM PDT by Gelato (... a liberal is a liberal is a liberal ...)
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To: sissyjane

C’mon. Stick around. I am a Fred or Hunter supporter, but prefer Fred.


15,880 posted on 04/29/2007 10:52:04 PM PDT by gpapa
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