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  • When did Freepers turn so nasty? (vanity)

    02/12/2016 10:04:27 PM PST · by Optimist · 17 replies
    vanity | 2/12/2016 | Optimist
    Over the past several months, Free Republic has begun to show an ugly side of its members. Although admittedly comprised of many strong-willed, opinion-charged individuals presenting thoughtful, conservative insights into the topics of the day, this forum has begun to show a seamier side as the Trump-Cruz-Rubio-Carson 2016 Primary heated up. You all know what I mean. Many of you have either been at the giving or receiving end of EMOTIONALLY-charged attacks against various candidates or even individuals as their supporters. Herewith a few thoughts I would like to share: Passion for a candidate and buying into the campaign is...
  • Did American Corporations Create and Sustain Communism in the Soviet Union?

    02/12/2016 9:39:39 AM PST · by pinochet · 31 replies
    There are some undeniable facts about America's history with communism that make many "mainstream" conservatives uncomfortable. These troubling facts fall into a category that I call "Facts About Communism that Your Favorite Conservative Columnist Did not Tell You About". 1. Karl Marx was the European correspondent for America's largest circulation newspaper, "The New York Daily Tribune", from 1852 to 1863. The paper was the New York Times of its day, and the paper carried Marx's articles for an amazing 11 years, which was long enough for his ideas to gain influence. Marx's articles were very popular among liberal elites in...
  • What did the Candidates say about immigration in their announcement speeches?

    02/12/2016 7:48:39 AM PST · by AuntB · 15 replies
    Vanity ^ | Feb. 12, 2016 | AuntB
    We hear what the candidates say now about issues, but what did they think was important when they announced their run for president. This vital first speech should have covered what they thought was important to this nation. Here is their (Trump, Cruz, Rubio) total remarks on IMMIGRATION...later we will do trade, terrorism, 2nd amendment, Obamacare and education. Trump June 16 , 2015 When do we beat Mexico at the border? They're laughing at us, at our stupidity. And now they are beating us economically. They are not our friend, believe me. But they're killing us economically. The U.S. has...
  • OREGON STANDOFF: Four surrender peacefully, Wave of arrests, County officials obfuscation

    02/12/2016 4:57:39 AM PST · by Nextrush · 19 replies
    2/12/2016 | Self
    "DAVID FRY: I'm really confused right now....You guys I don't deserve any of my freedom. GAVIN SEIM David, people love you, they don't want you to do this...." Part of the livestream 2/11/2016 from Gavin Seim for the peaceful surrender of the final four in Oregon. It was rough going when the time came for David Fry to leave the improvised position known as "Camp Finicum" in the parking lot of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge yesterday. He was concerned about going to prison, losing his freedom, he was suicidal. Before him, three others had walked out and surrendered to...
  • Bernie Madoff and America's Selective Outrage

    02/11/2016 6:21:42 PM PST · by huckfillary · 5 replies
    Artful Dilettante ^ | February 11, 2016 | Artful Dilettante
    Like seven million other Americans last week, I watched Madoff, the ABC miniseries chronicling the life and financial crimes of the infamous Bernie Madoff. Madoff, chairman of Madoff Investment Securities from its start-up in 1960 until his arrest on December 11, 2008, operated the largest corporate Ponzi scheme and financial fraud in U.S. history. The film, which starred Richard Dreyfuss and Blythe Danner as Madoff and his wife Ruth, aired for four hours over two evenings. The film had the highest viewership of its time-slot, but earned only modest reviews. After the film, ABC aired Madoff: After the Fall, a...
  • Welcome to the American Spring (vanity)

    02/11/2016 4:59:04 AM PST · by TigerClaws · 11 replies
    New media created revolutions in the Middle East. Now both political parties in the U. S. are being rocked by uprisings. Cruz/Trunp from the right. Sanders from the left. The elites once controlled the narrative by controlling the news. The internet created a true democracy of ideas and information. Old media (magazines newspapers and networks) fight to stay relevant. They can't control a public wise to them. Let the American Spring continue. Better fought at the ballot box than on the streets.
  • You cannot let people take over federal a certain point you have to do something

    02/10/2016 7:36:18 PM PST · by ifinnegan · 117 replies
    Jan 7, 2016 | Donald Trump
    "I think what I'd do, as president, is I would make a phone call to whoever, to the group," he said, adding later, "I'd talk to the leader. I would talk to him and I would say, 'You gotta get out -- come see me, but you gotta get out.'" "You cannot let people take over federal property," Mr. Trump said. "You can't, because once you do that, you don't have a government anymore. I think, frankly, they've been there too long." Mr. Trump said he wasn't necessarily suggesting a large-scale military action, but that "at a certain point you...
  • I think we're being miss-directed by the word, "conservative"

    02/10/2016 12:10:07 PM PST · by knarf · 134 replies
    self | February, 10, 2016 | knarf
    Most Americans are not THAT demanding of a strict definition of conservatism
  • Liberals Have Always Sided With America's Enemies But is It Worse Now? (vanity question)

    02/10/2016 11:37:29 AM PST · by Cubs Fan · 15 replies
    I was talking with a friend about how disgusted I was that Obama and liberals constantly side with Muslims against the country. And he brought up the fact that liberals have always done this. Whether it was Jane Fonda on the tank in Vietnam or liberal communists siding with the soviet union. So, his point taken, it's clear liberals have always sided with the enemies of America, but, in your opinion, are they doing it less, the same, or more than before? Thank you for your response.
  • Question: If Sanders won by 21%; why did he and Clinton both get 13 Delegates?

    02/09/2016 7:47:33 PM PST · by Boomer · 72 replies
    Self ^ | 2/9/2016 | Self
    On it shows Sanders and Clinton both getting 13 delegates. How then is this a true win for Sanders other than a popular vote? I don't know which is why I'm asking. Link at source.
  • The GOPe Strategy from Here (Vanity)

    02/09/2016 11:45:17 PM PST · by TigerClaws · 54 replies
    Trump and Cruz are poised to do well in the south. Trump can close it out on the east coast and a solid performance on the west coast. The Uniparty does what from here? They were backing RoboRubio big, but he had the debate malfunction. They tried to minimize the damage, but to no avail. Christie destroyed Rubio for this election round. He's done. That leaves Kasich and Bush. Bush is spending $3,000 a vote and at 4% in Florida. Kasich is out of money and doesn't appeal to anyone in the south. Cruz they hate, but he needs their...
  • Congrats to My Fellow FR Trump Supporters (Vanity)

    02/09/2016 6:52:09 PM PST · by TigerClaws · 302 replies
    Been a tough ride on FR at times. I appreciate all the posters here. Their respect for the political process, good humor, and willingness to fight is extraordinary. Great win tonight. Let's move on to South Carolina and keep the momentum rolling. It's a fight for freedom against the communism of the Democrats. We can't continue to slide into 3rd world oblivion. We have fought wars in other countries. It's time to fight the political war here. Let the WINNING begin! TRUMP 2016!!!!
  • New Hampshire search interest in top searched Republican candidates - Google Trends

    02/09/2016 1:09:11 PM PST · by justlittleoleme · 15 replies
    Also some of the top trending searches: Is Jeb short for anything? Where is Ben Carson today? What does Chris Christie want? Why does Ted Cruz wear two watches? Why was Carly Fiorina not in the debate? Who is Jim Gilmore? Is Kasich pro-life? What party is Marco Rubio? What did Trump call Cruz?
  • Study of USDL Data, Reveals Unemployment at 22.95% Due to Sub Par Job Growth

    02/09/2016 12:51:03 PM PST · by DoughtyOne · 18 replies
    My own workup ^ | 02/09/2016 | DoughtyOne / for Free Republic
  • I just had a thought (vanity)

    02/07/2016 7:00:41 PM PST · by Baynative · 108 replies
    mental ^ | 2/7/16 | Yours truly
    I have been a consistent nay sayer when ever the idea of Hillary Clinton facing justice comes up. I have been harshly critical of the house committees and their inability to bring about any action on the email server or Benghazi. I am down to my last nerve on this whole affair taking so damn long. BUT...
  • Mark Levin Show,M-F,6PM-9PM,EST,WABC AM,Ray Charles Fridays,February 5,2016

    02/05/2016 2:56:59 PM PST · by Biggirl · 50 replies
    Mark Levin Show ^ | February 5, 2016 | Mark Levin
    The Legacy Lives On! Mark’s Lost Dog & Cat Rescue Foundation “Conservatism is the antidote to tyranny precisely because its principles are the founding principles.” --Mark Levin in Liberty and Tyranny Welcome to “The Levin Lounge”… Step in and have a virtual FRink.Taking the country by storm, one radio station at a time – and kicking the BUTTS of the competition! Welcome all, to the most FUN LIVE THREAD on! You can call Mark’s show: 1-877-381-3811

    02/05/2016 1:27:01 PM PST · by cradle of freedom · 23 replies
    Because of the cult of multiculturalism and Islamic immigration, kids in the Bruce Vento Elementary School in St. Paul, Minnesota will not be having Valentines day anymore. The school is also thinking of doing away with Thanksgiving and Christmas. We must not upset the sensitivities of our new Muslim neighbors. There is a discussion about how to deal with Islam. The talking heads seem to agree that we are all against terrorism and radicalized Islam but we are for moderate Islam. So where does this fit in? It isn't terrorism because the muslims are not attacking or threatening physical assaults...
  • Rush Limbaugh Show,"Open Line Fridays",12NOONPM-3PM,EST,WOR AM,February 5, 2016

    02/05/2016 8:38:50 AM PST · by Biggirl · 153 replies
    The EIB Network ^ | February 5, 2016 | Rush Limbaugh
    Call The Rush Limbaugh Show program line between 12 Noon & 3PM Eastern Time, at: 1-800-282-2882 E-mail Rush: or Fax Rush at: 212-445-3963 Write a letter to Rush and mail it to: The Rush Limbaugh Show, 1270 Avenue of the Americas, New York, NY 10020. Join This Ping List Now! E-mail Rush: Fax Rush at: 212-445-3963, Write a letter to Rush and mail it to: The Rush Limbaugh Show, 1270 Avenue of the Americas, New York, NY 10020.< Join This Ping List Now! Click Here To Join This Ping List! < AND NOW... amidst billowing clouds of...
  • Trump OWNS Far Left Heckler for Defending Illegal Aliens

    02/04/2016 1:03:23 PM PST · by Hojczyk · 31 replies
    February 4,2016 | Jim Hoft
    Trump was ambushed during the rally by a heckler who defended illegal aliens. The Hill posted the transcript: “Illegal immigrants are the backbone of our country? I don’t think so, darling,” Donald J. Trump responded to a heckler who interrupted his campaign rally. “You know what the backbone of our country [is]? People that came here, and they came here legally. People that came here to this country legally, and they worked their ass off, and they made this country great.”
  • Rubio is a Hispanic Obama that Has a "R" by his Name.

    02/04/2016 4:50:36 AM PST · by Enlightened1 · 75 replies
    If you like the current condition of our Republic, then vote for Rubio. Rubio and Obama for the most part agree across the board. 1) Illegal Immigration and a Pathway to Citizenship 2) Rigged Trade Agreements that exports jobs overseas 3) Big supporter of H1-B that encourages U.S. companies, through taxes and regulations to fire their American workers and replace them with someone from overseas. 4) Going to war with Syria and endless perpetual state of war. 5) Rubio is in favor of big government. 6) Rubio is for the Police State. He wants to spy on all Americans, but...
  • I love Trump AND Cruz - What do I do?

    02/03/2016 8:03:30 PM PST · by EarlyBird · 230 replies
    vanity | 2/3/2016 | earlybirs
    I have loved Ted Cruz since he filibustered. I loved him even more since he.called McConnell a liar. Nothing Ted has done since then has changed my love for him. But then there's the Donald. I love him too! I love how he has torn apart the political correctness and the conventional wisdom. But how can I love both candidates and not be unfaithful to them both? I wish they would stop fighting each other. I wish they would start fighting Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.
  • An unorthodox plan for the 2016 election

    02/04/2016 12:14:53 AM PST · by Bobalu · 19 replies
    self-vanity | Feb 4, 2016 | Bobalu - Vanity
    This election must be won by a candidate that is not hell-bent on flooding the country with illegals or the republic's that simple.That leaves us with Trump and Cruz.... Trump I'm very sure of on immigration, Cruz a little less so but he's far better than any of the rest.IMO Trump can pull votes from across the spectrum and I give him a very good chance of being elected.Cruz has a dedicated following who would follow him through hell and back... but IMO the following is too small to be confident of a general election win.Combine the two men...
  • PPP Poll Out Tomorrow - Trump lead lowers; Rubio tied for third (VANITY)

    02/03/2016 9:32:40 PM PST · by TigerClaws · 160 replies
    The Cruz/Trump wars are killing both candidates and moving Rubio up to prime Romney position. Here's the poll from PPP to be released tomorrow: Trump 25 Cruz 21 Rubio 21 Carson 11 Jebra 5 Kasich 5 Rand 5 Christie 3 Fiorina 3 Gilmore 1 Santorum 0 Rubio is calling on the party to 'consolidate' (guys behind me drop out and endorse me). The MSM is laughing about the Trump vs. Cruz war and encouraging it -- Karl Rove on Fox tonight telling Trump he was right; Trump did steal Iowa; go sue over it and keep imploding pursuing it. This...

    02/03/2016 3:59:31 PM PST · by cradle of freedom · 105 replies
    Thank you Donald Trump for telling the truth with courage. When others feared being called names by the politically correct, Trump got out there and said in no uncertain terms that HE WOULD BUILD A WALL! This is one of the major reasons why so many people love him. Millions of Americans have been harmed by illegal immigration and others have learned about it and sought to get the message out over the years only to be suppressed and smothered by the politically correct establishment. Why is there a huge heroin problem in this country today? Mexico. Most of the...
  • Meanwhile..while everyone is focused on the election...TTP gets signed tomorrow!

    02/03/2016 1:39:27 PM PST · by DeathBeforeDishonor1 · 17 replies
    2/3/16 | Vanity
    That is all. Just a friendly reminder.
  • When there is something more important than politics (Vanity)

    02/03/2016 11:23:53 AM PST · by Jarhead9297 · 49 replies
    Vanity | 02-03-16 | JarHead9297
    With the elections running full bore and FReepers going back and forth in heated debates (including myself) supporting their cantidates, in the blink of an eye you are quickly reminded how little this stuff can be. Today I had to put down my Molly (my first time having to do this). Molly came to me 8 years ago from a former fiancé

    02/03/2016 11:01:15 AM PST · by TigerClaws · 53 replies
    Ted Cruz already posting it on Twitter... /s
  • Question for Discussion - Will Trump hit Rubio as hard as Cruz? (Vanity)

    02/03/2016 10:56:28 AM PST · by ifinnegan · 50 replies
    NA | 2/3/16 | Self
    Question for Discussion - Will Trump hit Rubio as hard as Cruz? Theory: Trump is an errand boy for the international banking and globalist financier elite. He has been funded in the billions (and owes yuge amounts still) by George Soros, Deutsche Bank and many other manner of sundry globalist hedge funds and financial institutions that the Uniparty reports to. As such, he is given the job of taking down Cruz. But not Rubio, who proved with the Gang of Eight that he will make deals and play ball and is acceptable to the Uniparty and globalist interests.
  • IOWA Democrat Vote a DUD (Hillary and Bernie get a Kewpie Doll)

    02/03/2016 5:48:11 AM PST · by CptnObvious · 34 replies
    Vanity | 2/3/2016 | Self
    Hillary and Bernie tied at 262 (that's two hundred and sixty two) votes. Ted Cruz alone got more than 40,000 (that's forty thousand). What does that tell you? 1) That the Democrats in Iowa are seriously less than thrilled with these two. 2) That only those Iowan's campaigning for Hillary and Bernie, of the favorable members of the press, voted for them. 3) And that there is a serious chance that some of these counties had ZERO votes and had to be tossed with a coin. Never mind that Hillary's chances of winning six coin tosses in a row is...
  • Iowa Caucus - Free Republic Prediction Thread

    01/31/2016 7:31:08 AM PST · by nwrep · 108 replies
    Various Polls ^ | January 31, 2016 | nwrep
    Predictions for Iowa Caucus: 2016 Presidential Elections Please put your predictions on this thread. Latest Poll: R: Trump-Cruz-Tubio: 28-23-15 D: Clinton-Sanders: 45-42
  • Vanity: Perspective on the Real Enemy: The ESTABLISHMENT.

    02/02/2016 7:42:58 PM PST · by JSDude1 · 30 replies
    Feb 2, 2016 | JSDude1
    Just wanted to REMIND all that, just like the founder of this website, I believe the real enemy isn't Donald Trump (I am a Cruz supporter), nor should Ted Cruz be the real enemy for any Donald Trump supporter. The REAL ENEMY is THE ESTABLISHMENT AND SELLOUTS as embodied currently in Marco Rubio. Carry On..
  • Just to remind you: The Iowa Caucuses recent history

    02/01/2016 8:10:48 PM PST · by EveningStar · 62 replies
    February 1, 2016
    Keeping things in perspective: 2008 Republican Iowa Caucus winner: Mike Huckabee, eventual nominee John McCain finished a distant fourth. 2012 Republican Iowa Caucus winner: Rick Santorum, eventual nominee Mitt Romney finished a very close second.
  • CONGRATULATIONS to America's Christian Tea Party Warriors : GOPe DEFEATED (37 %) in Iowa Caucus !

    02/01/2016 7:15:49 PM PST · by Patton@Bastogne · 111 replies
    Editorial based on 2016 Iowa Caucus Results ^ | 2016-02-01 | Patton@Bastogne
    . Iowa Caucus Results : 2016-02-01 @ 9:15 PM CST Ted Cruz : 28 % Donald Trump : 25 % Dr. Ben Carson : 10 % GOP-RINO Establishment : 37 % .
  • I want MY President to ...

    02/01/2016 4:03:42 PM PST · by catnipman · 28 replies
    Catnipman | 2/1/2016 | Catnipman
    I want MY President to ...
  • What say you ? (Vanity)

    02/01/2016 12:15:00 PM PST · by Java4Jay · 95 replies
    I want my President to have Dignity first, a respect for the office, then come politics. Of all the front runners, there is but one choice...
  • FR Help With Strange Happening!

    02/01/2016 10:45:03 AM PST · by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise · 67 replies
    Self | 02-01-2016 | Self
    When accessing the "Pings" page or any other page within FR I get a message box with the following message: ( See Below )
  • Which type of President do we need?

    02/01/2016 10:07:50 AM PST · by mirvin · 37 replies
    Self | 02/01/2016 | MIRVIN
    Hamiltonian, Wilsonian, Jeffersonian, or Jacksonian?
  • Sarah Palin exposes Matt Lauer on Good Morning America

    02/01/2016 6:46:09 AM PST · by Rustybucket · 152 replies
    So proud of Sarah Palin this morning on Good Morning America, where the media (Mat Lauer) tried to corner her on her son, the issue of PTSD and his behaviour. She rightly called him out on TV saying that she was told this was about the Iowa caucus and her support for Donald Trump. Lauer tried several times to steer her towards his aganda, and she called him out, and admonished him that this was not what she was promised by the producers would be the topic of conversation. Rather she commented on the military being allowed to do what...
  • How Could Anyone With An IQ Above 4 Vote for Obama or Hillary?

    01/31/2016 10:24:10 PM PST · by Stayfree · 77 replies
    Self | January 31, 2016 | Stayfree
    It is stunningly clear that Obama is a muslim who hates America's traditional values and is intent on destroying America as all of us patriots know it. Hillary Clinton is just another Marxist like Obama who is more interested in fattening her own wallet than giving a damn about what happens to our country. HOW CAN ANYBODY BE SO STUPID AS TO VOTE FOR EITHER ONE OF THESE P.O.S. WHO WANT TO RUIN OUR COUNTRY??????????????????????????????????
  • Vanity: Carson raised $22.6M in 4th Quarter; Had $6.M Cash on Hand

    01/31/2016 5:08:12 PM PST · by jimbo123 · 13 replies
    Influence Explorer ^ | 1/31/16 | Influence Explorer
    CARSON AMERICA: DETAILS OF FILING #1046898 COVERS OCT. 1, 2015 THROUGH DEC. 31, 2015 TOTAL RECEIPTS: $22,627,101 TOTAL SPENDING: $27,331,988 ENDING CASH: $6,567,647 ORIGINALLY FILED JAN. 31, 2016, 6:28 P.M.
  • Vanity: Rubio raised $14.2M in 4th Quarter; Had $10.4M Cash on Hand

    01/31/2016 6:11:28 PM PST · by jimbo123 · 14 replies
    Influence Explorer ^ | 1/31/16 | Influence Explorer
  • Vanity: Cruz raised $20.5M in 4th Quarter; Had $18.7M Cash on Hand, $862K in Debts

    01/31/2016 5:01:07 PM PST · by jimbo123 · 18 replies
    Influence Explorer ^ | 1/31/16 | Influence Explorer
  • Vanity: Bush only raised $7.1M in 4th Quarter; Had $7.6M Cash on Hand; $156K in Debts (Flop!)

    01/31/2016 7:43:21 PM PST · by jimbo123 · 9 replies
    Influence Explorer ^ | 1/31/16 | Influence Explorer
    JEB 2016, INC.: DETAILS OF FILING #1047278 COVERS OCT. 1, 2015 THROUGH DEC. 31, 2015 TOTAL RECEIPTS: $7,107,370 TOTAL SPENDING: $9,788,641 ENDING CASH: $7,589,858 OUTSTANDING DEBTS: $155,989 ORIGINALLY FILED JAN. 31, 2016, 10:37 P.M.
  • Vanity: Paul raised $2.1M in 4th Quarter; Had $1.3M Cash on Hand; $248K in Debts

    01/31/2016 7:19:35 PM PST · by jimbo123 · 7 replies
    Influence Explorer ^ | 1/31/16 | Influence Explorer
  • Vanity: Christie raised $3.0M in 4th Quarter; Had $1.1M Cash on Hand; $62K in Debts

    01/31/2016 7:03:57 PM PST · by jimbo123 · 6 replies
    Influence Explorer ^ | 1/31/16 | Influence Explorer
  • Vanity: Right to Rise fundraising collapse in 2nd half of 2015 (Only raised $15.1 Million)

    01/31/2016 4:40:17 PM PST · by jimbo123 · 13 replies
    Influence Explorer ^ | 1/31/16 | Influence Explorer
    RIGHT TO RISE USA: DETAILS OF FILING #1046980 COVERS JULY 1, 2015 THROUGH DEC. 31, 2015 TOTAL RECEIPTS: $15,139,189 TOTAL SPENDING: $54,284,643 ENDING CASH: $58,578,054 ORIGINALLY FILED JAN. 31, 2016, 7:19 P.M.
  • Trumpees [my opus]

    01/30/2016 6:58:36 PM PST · by libbylu · 868 replies
    You are all freaking low class jerks. The Heidi thread has been pulled multiple times. Free Republic has become trump derangement central. I HAVE NEVER SEEN A BUNCH OF CONSERVATIVES SO PICKY, PETTY AND STUPID - STUPID FREAKING LOSERS YOU DAMN DEFEND TRUMP AS IF HE WERE A FREAKING BABY BECAUSE HE IS! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL.
  • Hitler Declared He Wanted to Free Humanity From "Conscience and Morality"

    01/30/2016 8:36:11 AM PST · by pinochet · 28 replies
    There was a time when evil people were honest about their agenda. This site has an amazing Hitler quote: Here it is: "Providence has ordained that I should be the greatest liberator of humanity. I am freeing man from the restraints of an intelligence that has taken charge, from the dirty and degrading self-mortification of a false vision called conscience and morality"
  • [Vanity] Trump Pushes Single Payer Healthcare, Tax Increase on Wealthy

    01/29/2016 9:08:55 PM PST · by teg_76 · 86 replies
    For the sake of this country wake up! This was four months ago. Good conservatives are being thrown overboard for an open liberal.
  • Does the RNC Pre-Screen Debate Questions (VANITY)

    01/29/2016 1:26:10 PM PST · by TigerClaws · 4 replies
    Obama's administration pre-screens and pre-approves media questions at his press conferences and interviews. There are no 'gotcha' questions. Is the RNC approving those asking questions and the questions asked at these debates? The debates have been widely popular. Millions of viewers has meant millions of dollars in revenues. This gives the RNC leverage. The RNC, presumably, wants to get one of its candidates for president elected in the general election come November. This gives the RNC motive. So why have these appeared to be complete free for alls? Now the press will follow the Fox precedent of video 'gotcha' playing...