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DNA Shows Celtic Hero Somerled's Viking Roots
Scotsman ^ | 4-26-2005 | Ian Johnson

Posted on 04/26/2005 10:52:12 AM PDT by blam

DNA shows Celtic hero Somerled's Viking roots

IAN JOHNSTON
SCIENCE CORRESPONDENT

A HISTORIC Celtic hero credited with driving the Vikings out of western Scotland was actually descended from a Norseman, according to research by a leading DNA expert.

According to traditional genealogies, Somerled, who is said to have died in 1164 after ousting the Vikings from Argyll, Kintyre and the Western Isles, was descended from an ancient royal line going back to when the Scots were living in Ireland.

But Bryan Sykes, an Oxford University professor of human genetics who set up a company called Oxford Ancestors to research people’s DNA past, has discovered that Somerled’s Y-chromosome - which is inherited through the male line - is of Norse origin.

Prof Sykes’ studies of three Scottish clans have also led to the conclusion that some 500,000 people alive today are descended from Somerled - a number only bettered by Genghis Khan, who, among historical figures studied to date, has an estimated 16 million living descendants.

The MacDonald, MacDougall and MacAllister clans all claim descent from Somerled and Prof Sykes found that between 25 and 45 per cent of them shared the same Y-chromosome, of a kind normally found in Norway but rare in Scotland and Ireland.

By analysing the rate of mutation in DNA samples from clan members, Prof Sykes was able to show that the Y-chromosome came from a common ancestor who lived roughly 1,000 years ago.

He then tested five chiefs from the clans and discovered they all shared the same chromosome, which convinced him that the common ancestor must be Somerled, Lord of the Isles, in keeping with clan histories.

However, the analysis threw into doubt Somerled’s own origins. Prof Sykes told The Scotsman: "In the traditional genealogy, Somerled is a great Celtic hero who drives the Norse from Scotland, but his Y- chromosome is definitely Norse. The genealogies trace him back to a long line of Irish kings. But that’s not what the Y-chromosome says.

"He is certainly of Norse Viking paternal origin."

It is open to question whether Somerled, who made driving the Vikings from western Scotland his "cause célèbre", would have known the truth.

But Prof Sykes said: "I think it is something you would want to keep quiet."

The fact that clan chiefs still share the same basic Y-chromosome after some 87 generations shows that high-status women in the MacDonald, MacDougall and MacAllister clans were extremely faithful.

However, the large number of people alive today with the same Y-chromosome means the men in the family did not share this virtue to the same extent.

Maggie Macdonald, archivist of the Museum of the Isles on Skye, said Somerled was traditionally viewed as a Celtic hero.

But she added: "Maybe at that time it was more important who it was said you were descended from than who you were actually descended from.

"People may well have known his great-great-grandfather was a Viking.

"But it could have been that his great-great-grandmother had relations with someone who wasn’t her husband - it could be Somerled wouldn’t have known and thought he was this great Celtic hero."


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To: blam

"a number only bettered by Genghis Khan, who, among historical figures studied to date, has an estimated 16 million living descendants. "

Uhhh, could we BORROW just ONE of those 16 million and run him or her for President as a Republican?? I bet he would beat the opposition - literally. Reid, Hillery, Pelosi, Kennedy et al would be toast.

Ah Genghis - what a man!!


21 posted on 04/26/2005 12:07:21 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: MacDorcha
I woulda said "Campbell" on first guess.

My Gaelic teacher told me there are still MacDonalds who won't sit on a school board with a Campbell.

Can't say I blame them, really.

22 posted on 04/26/2005 12:08:06 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: yarddog

I knew a girl named McDonald. She was ditzy as anything (cheerleader stereotype)

I also knew a Campbell. Pretty, but very "free spirited" (read: liberal hippie)

The two never really knew each other well.

I beat the snot out a kid named "Hlavity" once though. It turned out his mother was 100% Irish :)


23 posted on 04/26/2005 12:14:04 PM PDT by MacDorcha (Where Rush dares not tread, there are the Freepers!)
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To: MacDorcha

Except for the part about them not knowing each other you could be describing the two I knew, except the Campbell was also a good student.


24 posted on 04/26/2005 12:16:03 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog

Oh, they knew each other. They just didn't fit into the same "cliques"

And since when does a liberal outlook mean they did poorly in a Puwblik Skewl? She had a 4.2 GPA.

They both gradutated in '02.


25 posted on 04/26/2005 12:18:09 PM PDT by MacDorcha (Where Rush dares not tread, there are the Freepers!)
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To: MacDorcha
your husband and I would be after each other's heads."

There can be only one.

26 posted on 04/26/2005 12:24:35 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: ASA Vet

All time favorite series and movies. Followed immediately by Stargate and Stargate SG-1


27 posted on 04/26/2005 12:26:29 PM PDT by MacDorcha (Where Rush dares not tread, there are the Freepers!)
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To: MacDorcha
Well the ditzy one was probably just as smart as the other one, she just wasn't as interested in scholastics. She was also much more likeable.

They were both cheerleaders but this was 40 years ago.

I remember once in Biology class, the teacher asked the first one, "what do you get when a sperm and egg unite"? The answer she was looking for was a zygote but her answer was "a baby?".

It made the teacher mad but I always thought it was a perfectly good answer.

28 posted on 04/26/2005 12:28:24 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: MacDorcha
Amanda was my favorite of Duncans girls until I found out she'd been defiled by X-42.


29 posted on 04/26/2005 12:37:39 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: Cogadh na Siths Girl

Interesting!


30 posted on 04/26/2005 12:46:45 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (Steel Bonnets Over the Border)
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To: inkling
"The easiest way to defeat Vikings is to face them in the playoffs."

HEY!! Not after this offseason. They loaded the barn for a Superbowl run.
31 posted on 04/26/2005 1:24:01 PM PDT by oldcomputerguy
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To: oldcomputerguy; monday
I'm a life-long Packer backer and my wife's a heavy-duty Vikes fan. I need to take my hits when I can :-)

I do think getting rid of Moss was the best thing you could have done. Didn't get enough for him in return, but he really had to go.

32 posted on 04/26/2005 1:45:25 PM PDT by inkling
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To: DJ MacWoW

Ping....


33 posted on 04/26/2005 2:56:58 PM PDT by Darkchylde (The Crazed Unknown Hermit)
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To: MacDorcha

And most people don't realize that the Irish and Danes were fierce "Vikings" in their own right.
["Scot" is Irish for "raider"]

My mom is hulking great Danish Valkyrie and my Dad is a 6 foot Ulsterman.
Alas, I am a genetic throwback to my paternal grandmother's Welsh roots, body-wise.....:)


The fiery runt of the litter,

SalHilda


34 posted on 04/26/2005 5:49:48 PM PDT by Salamander (Hee hee hee, indeed)
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To: Salamander

Cool background info: but I thought "Scotti" meant "Irish dancer"

Just wonderin' :p


35 posted on 04/26/2005 9:56:59 PM PDT by MacDorcha (Where Rush dares not tread, there are the Freepers!)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; StayAt HomeMother; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; ...
Blam's gettin' medieval on us. ;') Thanks Blam, I was thinking of posting this (saw it on Dienekes' blog) and you'd already put it up.
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36 posted on 04/26/2005 10:28:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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To: inkling
"I do think getting rid of Moss was the best thing you could have done. Didn't get enough for him in return, but he really had to go."

I agree. Moss was such a waste of talent, he could have been the greatest of all time. The worst part is that next season he will be tremendous again due to proving himself, then he will backslide.

The Vikings got the receiver they rated as the 2nd player in the entire draft after Ronnie Brown, Troy Williamson. This guy promises to be everything Moss was to the team and more with a lot less baggage. EVAL-unbelievable upside, 4.32- 40, former running back, 2nd,3rd, maybe 4th gear.

Tice said the receivers coach was drooling when he came back from working him out. And the most unusual thing was that everyone in the organization agreed on him. Should be interesting.

37 posted on 04/27/2005 12:32:02 PM PDT by oldcomputerguy
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To: MacDorcha

LOL!


38 posted on 04/27/2005 12:41:29 PM PDT by Salamander
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To: blam

Without testing Somerled's DNA, it is naught but supposition.


39 posted on 04/27/2005 12:42:08 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: Salamander

? Why "LOL"?

That's a translation I'ev heard.


40 posted on 04/27/2005 12:42:46 PM PDT by MacDorcha (Where Rush dares not tread, there are the Freepers!)
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