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JOURNEY OF MANKIND (The Peopling Of The World)
The Bradshaw Foundation ^ | Unknown | Stephen Oppenheimer

Posted on 04/25/2005 5:11:40 PM PDT by blam

This is the result of a DNA study done by Professor Stephen Oppenheimer and funded by The Bradshaw Foundation. As you go on the journey, here are some things I would like you to make note of and I would appreciate your comments:

1. 135-115,000 years ago, notice that the first human excursion out of Africa failed/Died out.

2. 74,000 years ago Toba exploded and reduced the worldwide human population to 2-10,000. Note the (about) 10,000 year absence of humans in India, Pakistan and parts of SE Asia. Also, there are two populations of 'out of Africa' humans that are seperated from themselves for about 10,000 years.

3. 65,000 years ago, the two seperated 'out of Africa' populations were rejoined.

4. 25-22,000 years ago, humans made it to Meadowcroft in North America.

5. 22-19,000 The Last Glacial Maximum(LGM), the coldest period during the Ice Age. Notice that at least six groups of humans are seperated from themselves. It is my hunch that it was this period that Mongoloids and Caucasians were distinguished. The oldest (undisputed) Mongoloid skeleton ever found is 10,000 years old.

6. 10-8,000 years ago, agriculture begins in Mexico, China, the Amazon and Indonesia.

I will provide a link below for you to begin the journey.


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KEYWORDS: archaeology; catastrophism; ggg; godsgraveglyphs; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; history; journey; mankind; meadowcroft; nagpra; peopling; toba; world
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1 posted on 04/25/2005 5:11:48 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
Begin the journey by clicking here

GGG Ping.

2 posted on 04/25/2005 5:15:38 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Professor Stephen Oppenheimer

"Stephen Oppenheimer is a world-recognised expert in the synthesis of DNA studies with archaeological and other evidence to track ancient migrations. He is a member of Green College, Oxford University"

3 posted on 04/25/2005 5:19:46 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Very interesting read on the human bottleneck and the Toba eruption can be found at http://www.andaman.org/book/app-r/ch5_bottleneck/textr5.htm.

Good post, thanks.


4 posted on 04/25/2005 5:21:34 PM PDT by fire and forget
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To: fire and forget
Try again, I got this: Page not found
5 posted on 04/25/2005 5:31:56 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Bump for later. Fascinating, blam.


6 posted on 04/25/2005 5:32:38 PM PDT by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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To: blam
Absolutely fascinating, good post!!

I was not able to get the references (pop-ups and lots of other things blocked), and will have to dig them out in other ways and then reconcile them with that I thought I knew. In any case, this is educational, immensely entertaining, and thought provoking. Might even be right; that would be even better.

If only more scientists/anthropologists could do this well the Luddites and other anti-science folks would really be on the run!

7 posted on 04/25/2005 5:43:44 PM PDT by Coyoteman
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"Absolutely fascinating, good post!! "

Thanks.

This subject is covered in (exhausting) detail in Oppenheimer's excellent book: Out Of Eden. I also read his book Eden In The East, another good one.


8 posted on 04/25/2005 5:56:40 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Homo sapiens , of course, arrived in the Andaman islands much later than 73,000 years ago. Recent genetic work (Endicott et al. 2003) has dated the coalescent process of the mtDNA lineage M2 of haplogroup M of the Andamanese Negrito people to 63,000 +/- 6,000 years ago and the Andamanese M4 lineage to 32,000+/-7,500 years. These dates do not tell us when the ancestral Andamanese actually reached the islands. They must have survived the YTT event somewhere on the mainland of Asia, Sundaland upwind from Toba, or Africa. The Negrito are thought to have been the earliest modern Homo sapiens to reach (or survive Toba in) Asia. They settled the Andaman islands either after the coalescence of the genetic M4 lineage or the coalescence took place somewhere on the Asian mainland with colonization of the islands following later. Whether there have ever been Negritos in the Nicobars is unknown but is now thought unlikely on genetic grounds. The islands were settled relatively recently (some few thousand years ago) by Mon-Khmer speaking Mongolid people, mostly from mainland Asia with some lesser components from Indonesian groups.

Oopsie. You have two scientists, you get three opinions.

9 posted on 04/25/2005 6:06:15 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: blam

Could you put me on your GGG ping list, thanks.


10 posted on 04/25/2005 6:12:18 PM PDT by IYAAYAS (Live free or die trying)
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To: blam
Try again, I got this: Page not found

Take off the period at the end.

http://www.andaman.org/book/app-r/ch5_bottleneck/textr5.htm

The rest of the article is also interesting.

11 posted on 04/25/2005 6:27:59 PM PDT by Lonely Bull
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To: blam

To read later.


12 posted on 04/25/2005 6:32:51 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: pabianice
Oopsie. You have two scientists, you get three opinions.

Appearantly there's lots of room for conjecture.

Here's another approach:

13 posted on 04/25/2005 6:41:00 PM PDT by expat_panama (no more tag lines)
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To: blam

Interesting post. Thanks.


14 posted on 04/25/2005 7:02:35 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: fire and forget; Lonely Bull

Good info, thanks.


15 posted on 04/25/2005 7:08:09 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

http://www.andaman.org/book/app-r/ch5_bottleneck/textr5.htm

Hopefully it works now.


16 posted on 04/25/2005 7:09:57 PM PDT by fire and forget
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To: pabianice
"Oopsie. You have two scientists, you get three opinions."

Things are definately complicated. Check out this article.

Archaic Genes In Modern People?

17 posted on 04/25/2005 7:22:05 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

YEC INTREP


18 posted on 04/25/2005 10:12:41 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (The radical secularization of America is happening)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; StayAt HomeMother; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; ...
Thanks Blam.
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19 posted on 04/25/2005 10:34:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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To: blam

Wow! Thanks for posting that, I am totally impressed! The technology of DNA, the research, the compilation... What a fanastic effort! The visual affect is so educational. I sent the link to all I know, I liked it so much.


20 posted on 04/25/2005 11:03:54 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy
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