JOURNEY OF MANKIND (The Peopling Of The World)

The Bradshaw Foundation ^ | Unknown | Stephen Oppenheimer

[SandwicheGuy]

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[SunkenCiv]

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Eden in the East: The Drowned Continent of Southeast Asia by Stephen Oppenheimer Hardcover	Out of Eden by Stephen Oppenheimer	The Real Eve: Modern Man's Journey Out of Africa by Stephen Oppenheimer

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[ApplegateRanch]

Thanks for the Ping! Nothing like a nice graphical animation to make clear several hundred pages worth of text.

[Junior]

A "this is really cool" ping.

[PatrickHenry]

A "this is really cool" ping.

I wasn't going to issue a ping for this article, because anthropology and archeology are inessential for the evolution list. But if you think it's "really cool" I'll have to go along. Cranking up the ping machine ...

[PatrickHenry]

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[AntiGuv]

So, what exactly makes you think that your graphic contradicts Prof. Oppenheimer? Is it the 7 million BC estimate of the divergence from apes, the 1 million BC excursion of Homo erectus, or the 500,000 BC spread of Neanderthal, or is it something else? I'm just curious.

[AntiGuv]

Oopsie. You have two scientists, you get three opinions.

So, what exactly are you referring to?

[narby]

Thanks for the ping. Great post. Interesting graphic.

[shuckmaster]

Anatomically correct humans are designed to run an average 50+ miles a day over a short (2-4 weeks) period and jog an average of at least 20+ miles a day over an extended (near permanent) period. Based on Darwin, bipedal (4 million years ago) ape-like humans wouldn't have evolved into long distance running/jogging machines unless such long distance running was long established as an essential to their survival. Do the math. An entire tribe of humans is quite capable of jogging from Africa to China or vice-versa in a single season with 4 million seasons to beat the path. There was never any reason for humans to come out of any particular place. Their kin were already all over the planet before Oppenheimer's Eve was born

All Oppenheimer is doing is tracing one family line over 160,000 years. Ghengis Kahn is well on the way to accomplishing that same task in a fraction of the time.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Unam Sanctam]

He obviously believes in the pre-Clovis theory.

[blam]

"He obviously believes in the pre-Clovis theory."

Yup. You mean with the Meadowcroft entry. He said that the North American results were a little 'murky' (my word), but, believes there were five different populations that entered from the north. The "X" gene came with one of those populations.

[blam]

"Anatomically correct humans are designed to run an average 50+ miles a day over a short (2-4 weeks) period and jog an average of at least 20+ miles a day over an extended (near permanent) period."

Humans have the best endurance of any land mammal. If a human can track and keep an animal on the move, the animal will drop dead of exhaustion before the human does.

Bushmen in Africa (still) shoot an animal with a poison dart and track it for days before the animal dies.

[Inyo-Mono]

Thank you blam. This is great!

[blam]

"He obviously believes in the pre-Clovis theory."

I was a little disappointed because he doesn't even mention a possible Atlantic entry to the Americas...apparently, it didn't show up in the DNA.

The "X' gene that is common to some Europeans and American Indians came through the previously mentioned routes from the north. He says the "X" gene link between Europe and the Americas was broken during the Toba explosion which, would mean that it is very ancient. He doesn't say it but, I'm guessing the "X" gene came with the Jomon/Ainu types like Kennewick Man/Spirit Cave man.

[MattinNJ]

Fascinating. Thanks for the ping. I was watching this show on the Discovery Channel on Ghenghis Khan. IIRC they said Khan and his offspring raped so many women that 1 out of every 10 people can trace their lineage directly back to him.

[blam]

"Fascinating. Thanks for the ping. I was watching this show on the Discovery Channel on Ghenghis Khan. IIRC they said Khan and his offspring raped so many women that 1 out of every 10 people can trace their lineage directly back to him."

Yup, I saw that and even posted some articles on FR about it.

[MattinNJ]

Did you see the follow up program where the Mongols built a huge fleet only to be destroyed in a typhoon? I always knew that was the source of the name Kamikaze but I did not know that they made landfall and were beat back into the ocean by the Samurai. Now that would make a great movie.

[blam]

"Did you see the follow up program where the Mongols built a huge fleet only to be destroyed in a typhoon? I always knew that was the source of the name Kamikaze but I did not know that they made landfall and were beat back into the ocean by the Samurai. Now that would make a great movie."

LOL, saw that one too. Something that I can't put my finger on was amiss about the program. Anyway, one thing they failed to mention is that the Samurai were from the Ainu tribe and were likely quite bigger than most of the attackers.

The Samurai And The Ainu