Posted on 12/24/2015 7:07:28 AM PST by dangus
Donald Trump has an excuse for funding Hillary Clinton's election to the U.S. Senate from New York: That's how crony socialism is done. You pay off elected officials to become their crony, then you get special consideration for your real estate deals. Please FReepers, explain to me how this isn't precisely what we are trying to STOP in Washington? Do you know what I don't hear coming from Trump? "I'm going to put an end to such games." Rather, it seems like he is proud of how he has played the game, considers it is how he rose to the top, and in his generous self-appraisal, figures that anything that helped him make more of his billions must be good.
He also favors socialized medicine. Not just a mandated level of services (Obamacare), but the government paying for universal, single-payer health care. This isn't an opinion from 2000. This is from his current campaign:
Scott Pelley: How do you fix it?
Donald Trump: There’s many different ways, by the way. Everybody’s got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, “No, no, the lower 25 percent that can’t afford private. But–â€
Scott Pelley: Universal health care.
Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.
Scott Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of. How? How?
Donald Trump: They’re going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably–
Scott Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?
Donald Trump: –the government’s gonna pay for it.
Trump isn't a conservative. He's a narcissist who can't help telling the crowds what he thinks they want to hear. And so what we get in the Republican debates is an unelectable charicature of conservatism. One moment he's for keeping all Muslims out; the next he's only for keeping Islamofascists out. Well, duh. One moment, he's against the invasion of America by millions of communist Chinese and socialist Mexicans, the next, he's endorsing touchback amnesty.
Wait... you didn't know Trump favors granting citizenship to just about any red Chinese or Mexican who asks for it? "We have a lot of good people, they’ve been here and they've done a good job. It’s a tough situation and in some cases they haven’t been good people, and there have been some problems. The good ones we’ll expedite."
That's right... he's going to expedite illegal aliens already in the United States so that they can come right back into the United States.
Building a wall and then expediting illegal aliens in a touchback amnesty might help solve the security risks of uncontrolled illegal aliens, but how exactly are we going to simultaneously "expedite" them and screen them for terrorist connections? More than that, the fear that there might be terrorists among illegal aliens is one of the relatively minor issues I have with illegal aliens. I don't want my country invaded by Red Chinese and Mexican Reconquistadoras, driving down wages and consuming far more government services that they pay for.
But then we come to the issue that will make Donald Trump utterly, totally, completely unelectable. Unlike most socialists, Trump believes that American middle-class wages are too high. He has said this at almost every debate, and no rival or moderator has called him out on it. But with the Republicans already having a tough sell with Romney's legendary 47% who live off the government, can Republicans tell the vast majority of the remainder of Americans, "Oh, by the way, we'd be happy if you had way less money?"
Please, people, don't be like that Democrat socialite who couldn't believe Nixon won because she didn't know anyone who voted Republican. Trump is getting 96% of the coverage of Republican candidates, so he is who everyone is talking about. But don't confuse the volume of attention with electability. In a head-to-head poll matchup, Trump loses to Bernie Sanders in a landslide.
I've always thought the mainstream Republicans were fools to refuse to stand up for conservative values in the hope of winning an election. It's not just about watering down your beliefs to win over the middle; it's about giving people in the middle reason to think you'll do something about the conservative concerns they do have, and giving the base a reason to come out to vote. But is nominating someone who makes 58% of Americans think he is just an obnoxious blowhard the solution?
Please, if you think I'm an idiot, don't just tell me I'm an idiot. Tell me where you think I'm wrong. Tell me why you don't believe Trump won't pass a touchback amnesty into law, or won't institute socialized medicine. Show me data to say how he has a prayer of winning. I really do want a reason to believe that we're not about piss away our best chance at electing a conservative president since Ronald Reagan.
After looking at his/her profile, it’s obvious what the purpose of the thread is:
*Someone* is a vanity-thread whore.
“Look, look, here I am, writing another vanity thread about my important thought of the moment. See me, notice me!” — and then permanently memorialized in his/her profile page as a testament to how important *someone* is.
It’s like a mutated form of an opus that won’t end.
Probably a millennial.
Hillary will clean trumps clock. She’s been around the game enough to know how to play it and she has sympathetic media. She will play the vag card, she already has with the schlong comment. That is just the first plank in the misogynist platform that she’ll build...and squishes the country over will swoon and lap it up. Count on it, you’re already seeing it starting.
My lawyers will be on this soon, I promise ...
Hey - the Sarah Palin-Ragnar Lothbrok 2016 ticket never materialized...
Unlike others, you have learned something here at FR in your 17 years. :)
libbylu weighs in to the food fight with a rotten tomato to the heads of the "trumpees"...
It is just THIS sort of WISHY WASHY submissive *SURRENDER* that has *screwed* America over! You TRAITOR, you subhuman VERMIN! You are a DISEASE in America, and everyone on the forum HATES YOU! You SCUMBAG TRASH! GO ahead, TAKE no position, you PUSSY. Why do you even BOTHER to POST! This forum is dumber for having you on it! There is NOTHING brave in taking no position, it is the mark of a CRAVEN COWARD! May mankind CURSE YOUR NAME FOREVER, for it is YOU who has destroyed the country with your retiring NEUTRALITY! YOU HIDEOUS, degenerate FREAK! I *HATE* you and everyone with a brain also hates you!
LOLOL!!!
Holy crap, I ain’t seen you in a coon’s age! Where ya been? :) Merry Christmas!
There was no message to attack.
Just some political neophyte larding some blather about why he don't like that Trump fella.
You need to know what your own candidate is saying.
As late as July 24th 2015, Trump wasn't saying deport the non criminal illegals. He was saying that we should do something for them. That's a legalization amnesty.
After that, starting around July 30th, Trump has been saying that the non criminals would have to leave, but that he would want to expedite them back.
Expediting them back, would require that they jump the yearly quota line which is about 5 to 10 years long.
That is a legalization amnesty.
LOL!
Wishing you a Merry Christmas Laz!
Or vasoline.
Are you stupid? Or just pretending? Or, is it that you enjoy that sweet, slow screwing by the GOP? Regardless, you might want to wake up to the fact that theGOP has constructed its own demise, with the help of leftist trash such as yourself. In 2016, millions of REAL American voters will put the final nails in the coffin of the GOP. A Great American Revolution, without a shot being fired. No thanks to you and your sad sack leftist comrades.
“So I answered in detail and you breezed right by it.... okay......”
FWIW I believe your answer is spot on.
Not a Trump fan myself, I’m sending my support to the Cruz campaign unless he quits. If Trumps becomes the nominee, I will vote for him in the general as I always do for the GOP candidate. Never been thrilled about that, but I can’t see an alternative.
Trump could easily deport them all by promising a legalization touchback amnesty.
I'm sure McConnell and Ryan would gladly make all that legal.
Ted Cruz doesn't know they exist. That's why they haven't made me think ill of Cruz. He's still my second choice, after The Big Dog.
Heck, The Big Dog has even got Ted Cruz to take a few steps off the porch. :)
:) Merry Christmas to you... or, since I have a mouthful of cookies at the moment, Muh Cuhffmfff!
If Donald Trump wins the nomination, I will purposefully and unreservedly vote for him in the general.
Excellent post. Someone who gets that bashing Cruz & Trump is non-productive.
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