Skip to comments.Why are FReepers rallying around a crony socialist?
Posted on 12/24/2015 7:07:28 AM PST by dangus
Donald Trump has an excuse for funding Hillary Clinton's election to the U.S. Senate from New York: That's how crony socialism is done. You pay off elected officials to become their crony, then you get special consideration for your real estate deals. Please FReepers, explain to me how this isn't precisely what we are trying to STOP in Washington? Do you know what I don't hear coming from Trump? "I'm going to put an end to such games." Rather, it seems like he is proud of how he has played the game, considers it is how he rose to the top, and in his generous self-appraisal, figures that anything that helped him make more of his billions must be good.
He also favors socialized medicine. Not just a mandated level of services (Obamacare), but the government paying for universal, single-payer health care. This isn't an opinion from 2000. This is from his current campaign:
Scott Pelley: How do you fix it?
Donald Trump: Thereâs many different ways, by the way. Everybodyâs got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, âNo, no, the lower 25 percent that canât afford private. Butââ
Scott Pelley: Universal health care.
Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I donât care if it costs me votes or not. Everybodyâs going to be taken care of much better than theyâre taken care of now.
Scott Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of. How? How?
Donald Trump: Theyâre going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probablyâ
Scott Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?
Donald Trump: âthe governmentâs gonna pay for it.
Trump isn't a conservative. He's a narcissist who can't help telling the crowds what he thinks they want to hear. And so what we get in the Republican debates is an unelectable charicature of conservatism. One moment he's for keeping all Muslims out; the next he's only for keeping Islamofascists out. Well, duh. One moment, he's against the invasion of America by millions of communist Chinese and socialist Mexicans, the next, he's endorsing touchback amnesty.
Wait... you didn't know Trump favors granting citizenship to just about any red Chinese or Mexican who asks for it? "We have a lot of good people, theyâve been here and they've done a good job. Itâs a tough situation and in some cases they havenât been good people, and there have been some problems. The good ones weâll expedite."
That's right... he's going to expedite illegal aliens already in the United States so that they can come right back into the United States.
Building a wall and then expediting illegal aliens in a touchback amnesty might help solve the security risks of uncontrolled illegal aliens, but how exactly are we going to simultaneously "expedite" them and screen them for terrorist connections? More than that, the fear that there might be terrorists among illegal aliens is one of the relatively minor issues I have with illegal aliens. I don't want my country invaded by Red Chinese and Mexican Reconquistadoras, driving down wages and consuming far more government services that they pay for.
But then we come to the issue that will make Donald Trump utterly, totally, completely unelectable. Unlike most socialists, Trump believes that American middle-class wages are too high. He has said this at almost every debate, and no rival or moderator has called him out on it. But with the Republicans already having a tough sell with Romney's legendary 47% who live off the government, can Republicans tell the vast majority of the remainder of Americans, "Oh, by the way, we'd be happy if you had way less money?"
Please, people, don't be like that Democrat socialite who couldn't believe Nixon won because she didn't know anyone who voted Republican. Trump is getting 96% of the coverage of Republican candidates, so he is who everyone is talking about. But don't confuse the volume of attention with electability. In a head-to-head poll matchup, Trump loses to Bernie Sanders in a landslide.
I've always thought the mainstream Republicans were fools to refuse to stand up for conservative values in the hope of winning an election. It's not just about watering down your beliefs to win over the middle; it's about giving people in the middle reason to think you'll do something about the conservative concerns they do have, and giving the base a reason to come out to vote. But is nominating someone who makes 58% of Americans think he is just an obnoxious blowhard the solution?
Please, if you think I'm an idiot, don't just tell me I'm an idiot. Tell me where you think I'm wrong. Tell me why you don't believe Trump won't pass a touchback amnesty into law, or won't institute socialized medicine. Show me data to say how he has a prayer of winning. I really do want a reason to believe that we're not about piss away our best chance at electing a conservative president since Ronald Reagan.
You’re screwed. The only thing the trumpeters know how to do is attack the messenger. You will get virtually no substantive responses....no matter how accurate your thoughts!
do not expect a single response defending what you mention above....but your motives, your ties to Rove, your mama, and everything else will be fair game.
Who do you prefer over Trump?
I looked through your post and I didn’t see any alternatives put forth.
Yeah, Rove loves Cruz (/sarcasm). If that’s all the Trump folks do, maybe some Lurkers will decide for Cruz.
They are all socialists. All of them.
When I say “All of them”, I mean the candidates, Cruz included.
Why does who he prefer matter to the substantive issues with trumps candidacy? He could cite Jesus Christ as his candidate and it wouldn’t change the fact the the trumpsters would attack them both AND fail to dispute anything in the article.
Yws trumpets the big plant this time.
I think right now, we have the most conservative Senator in decades running, a brilliant legal mind motivated by a faith-based constitutionalism. But I didn’t want the focus to be on what’s wrong with candidate so-and-so.
Uh... there’s not even a link to a blog, so how am I pimping a blog? Blog pimps make you click a link to read a story, so they get hits.
I am a conservative and will vote for the most conservative candidate in the primary and in the election. Right now, I am leaning towards Cruz. I will work for Cruz, man phones, and volunteer for his campaign.
I will not do the same for Trump. However, if the general election comes down to Trump vs any Democrat, I will hold my nose and vote for him.
What is the purpose of your post?
He may hold positions that you disagree with but remember, he is not establishment. Another benefit he is showing young Republicans, Tea Party types how to do it, how to man handle the Media. All of this is priceless and unexpected and a real blessing.
Enjoy the ride and stop the hand wringing, it is unbecoming.
Most of his positions look to be Populist. Somewhere along the way he appears to have rejected the Elitism side of politics. I suppose once you get F.U. Money, you are freed from some of the shackles of the establishment -- and he most definitely has F.U. Money.
The political battleground has changed drastically in the last 20-30 years. It is now Elitist vs. Populist. That is why you see so many Republicans acting so inexplicably oddly. It is also why Trump is so popular, with crossover appeal.
The Elitists have very VERY bad plans for us. Erasure of nations, removal of all defensive weaponry from the populace, thought-control (literally), and gross depopulation (probably on the birth side, I think they learned from Hitler / Stalin / Pol Pot how bad it goes on the other side).
I freely admit I could be wrong. This could be the best acting job since Heath Ledger's "Joker". This is a bit of a dice-throw for me. While I would prefer Cruz, Trump has a large lead. So I will toss the dice on Trump. Best to toss the dice, than to submit to the Globalist/Elitist world paradigm.
The thing that informs me that it is likely not an act, is the response of the Elitists. They threw Jeb, Rubio, and Carson at us. They tried to smear Trump in every way. They are planning to split us with Cruz by inflating his polls.
Those are not the actions of a people who want Trump to be the nominee.
He was conducting business, plain and simple. Those that refuse to play suffer financially, both personally and their employees as well.
Maybe you support failure, but bragging rights to the moral high ground over success.
He gave to both sides of the snake pit, and freely admits it. He is the BEST candidate to change things, as he, alone, knows how to achieve success.
Cruz is a socialist?
Fine, hold your breath for the perfect candidate. Cruz is light years ahead of any other candidate and would move us back up the slippery slope away from the abyss.
Read the last line of the post.
I don’t see any links to a blog.
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