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Why are FReepers rallying around a crony socialist?

Posted on 12/24/2015 7:07:28 AM PST by dangus

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To: dangus; Theo; EternalVigilance

You are right and I apologise. It was a vanity, a bloviating bit of Trump hatred which does not rise to the level of a blog. Blogs draw advertising revenue, something which this screed cant do. So, once again, I apologise and will settle for the short version, Pimp.


201 posted on 12/24/2015 9:42:37 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: Nervous Tick

Cruz is going to make an excellelent VP for 8 years of the Trump Administration, and an amazing President in 2024!


202 posted on 12/24/2015 9:43:40 AM PST by dware (Free Survival & Prepper Ebooks: http://www.survivetherockies.com)
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To: dangus

I’m not going to bother to break down your entire post. I’m sure that somebody will beat me to it and, honestly, I’m really sick and tired of going over the same material with people who have no interest in listening. It’s obvious that you’re not asking an honest question and looking for real answers. You’re trying to force Trump supporters on the defensive and you’re probably the 100th one to post such a vanity this year.

All that aside, I’d like you to think about the budget that just passed.

Think about how our party folded like a cheap suit. Think about the decades of compromise that’s pushed this nation ever left.

Personally, I find all of the ‘great and glorious Trump’ memes hilarious. I do NOT think that he’ll be our ‘great hope’ and that he’ll turn it all around. He’s not my savior and he’s not my messiah.

I’m punishing the GOP for their years of betrayal. I want to watch them hurt and gnash their teeth and rend their garments as the party goes down in glorious, white-hot, flames. I’m madder at them than I am the stupid liberals because they’ve lied to me. They took my money and they took my votes and they took my support, then they stabbed me in the back and didn’t do a damn thing that we asked them to do.

Cruz can’t hurt them badly enough. Cruz would be ineffective.

His speech is too high-brow to get through to the ‘everyman’. More and more ‘regular’ people are hearing Trump - from all over the political spectrum. The people who don’t spend hours a day mired in the musings of political pontificates. The people who don’t have the inclination to dig deep into every nuance and issue. The people who are busting their butts working and can’t care.

Ted Cruz begins to recite his carefully crafted speech and their eyes glaze over. Not because they’re too stupid to understand, but because they’re too tired to care and he sounds like a used car salesman giving them yet another ‘pitch’. He’ll never catch fire like Trump has.

And who knows. Perhaps Trump can help this withering economy and maybe he will make us more secure.

Win or lose, I win.

And, before you say, ‘but that could mean that you give us Hillary!’

That’s the argument that I’ve submitted to since 2008. Did holding my nose help us avoid 8 years of Obama?

Why should I fall for that again?


203 posted on 12/24/2015 9:44:46 AM PST by Marie (Hey GOP... The vulgarians are at the gate.)
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To: Rock Eye Jack
Great post.

Someone who gets it.

204 posted on 12/24/2015 9:47:42 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: C. Edmund Wright; kiryandil
Let me tell you why that statement is ignorant. First, it assumes that the only choices are Trump or uniparty period. Totally a false straw dog argument that doesn't pass the 50 IQ point. Second, it ignores how many of the uniparty candidates and policies that TRUMP HIMSELF has supported.

Exactly. It won't matter though.

205 posted on 12/24/2015 9:50:07 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Boogieman
Gee, anyone with half a brain who paid attention during the Clinton presidency?

Nobody thought nothing of the Clinton Foundation when it was created, that's the thing. It was an after-thought. No one knew it was going to be a vehicle to solicit money and favors.

True, it's not the same as donating to Hillary, but you said he didn’t donate to federal candidates at all.

Read: I said the poster said he was "funding" Hillary's election to her Senate seat. Nothing of the sort happened.

Yet, he donated to Democratic committees which ONLY fund federal candidates. So he did donate to federal candidates, just not directly.

I do not care about the Rat PACs. That was not part of my critique of the poster.
I am refuting what the poster said: That Trump was "directly funding" Hillary's Senate seat. That DID NOT OCCUR.

206 posted on 12/24/2015 9:50:09 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: kiryandil

Thanks. But, flattery will get you nowhere.


207 posted on 12/24/2015 9:52:04 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Lazamataz
Looking forward to reading that one.

People won't like that I say this but traditional conservatism, as we know it, has proven a failure against leftism.

If we are to claw our way back, it will be through nationalism and what is called the alt-right, a young, mostly, identarian movement, and nationalism.

Honestly, that will leave a lot of (cucked up) conservatives behind and will find allies in strange places.

The future looks very different and one thing I have learned posting here all these years, many conservatives can't handle that-they are comfortable losing.

208 posted on 12/24/2015 9:56:41 AM PST by riri (Obama's Amerika--Not a fun place.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; Lazamataz
BTW, you said there was some intelligent refuation of the OP up wind on the forum. I didn't see any....direct me to one you think is good.

So, Laz - apparently C. Edmund Wrong is illiterate, since he couldn't apparently read your post, or several other good refutations of dingus McN00b.

Must dictate to his computer with one of them transcriber programs. I noticed in one of his posts on another thread, Wrong's computer transcriber substituted "accept" for "except".

Guess the proof's in the pudding... LOL! :)

We'll have to see if JohnRob can put some code for an audio reader into the FR software. It'll help out the "challenged", like C. Edmund Wrong...

209 posted on 12/24/2015 9:56:54 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: Lion Den Dan; dangus
You are right and I apologise. It was a vanity, a bloviating bit of Trump hatred which does not rise to the level of a blog. Blogs draw advertising revenue, something which this screed cant do. So, once again, I apologise and will settle for the short version, Pimp.

You apologize like a politician.

210 posted on 12/24/2015 9:57:20 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: kiryandil

be sure to catch my feature series on Breitbart......(and btw, the left has come for me....)


211 posted on 12/24/2015 9:57:47 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: caww

Another TDS county heard from.


212 posted on 12/24/2015 9:58:33 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: Wissa
Yeah, but at least Cruz has balls enough to say that he won't criticize Trump when Trump takes a politically incorrect stand.

**grin** Ya gotta love Cruz for that. :)

213 posted on 12/24/2015 10:00:01 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: wardaddy

and a Merry Christmas to you


214 posted on 12/24/2015 10:01:25 AM PST by doug from upland (Some of you keep telling yourself -- Romney would have been as bad or worse.)
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To: Axeslinger

I didn’t see any cheating evidence, just divorce. For someone with his wealth, it’s no surprise he would be an attractive target of countless gold diggers.


215 posted on 12/24/2015 10:12:57 AM PST by nightlight7
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To: doug from upland
For years our side was bashed by the press and by the other side and we responded very meekly.

I was explaining to one of the later 98ers upthread my position on Trump:

kiryandil wrote: "Us '97ers know ALL about the Media. We hate them with a searing, white-hot hate. ANYTHING that will destroy them, we're for."

Yesterday, I was telling a friend about that January night we sat on Free Republic and watched Matt Drudge stick it in "Spikey" Isikoff's eye. The late-comers don't know the glory of that moment, after the fights of late 1997 [digging up M. Larry Lawrence!!!, LOL!].

You remember. :)

216 posted on 12/24/2015 10:15:25 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: kiryandil

“He’s still my second choice, after The Big Dog.”

Me, too. In fact, he’s the only one of the candidates other than Trump that I might even consider voting for. If somehow the GOP-e manages to worm in one of their chosen candidates, I’m not voting.


217 posted on 12/24/2015 10:21:23 AM PST by Pravious
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To: Marie

“Ted Cruz begins to recite his carefully crafted speech and their eyes glaze over. Not because they’re too stupid to understand, but because they’re too tired to care and he sounds like a used car salesman giving them yet another ‘pitch’. He’ll never catch fire like Trump has.”

That’s exactly the same reaction I had when I tried to watch Cruz give a speech a couple of weeks ago. And it’s not because I have anything against Cruz, or because I’m a Trump supporter. I ended up turning him off after 20 minutes or so.


218 posted on 12/24/2015 10:24:45 AM PST by Pravious
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To: Axeslinger

Our nations history is replete with leaders who loved women a bit too much

Jefferson of course

Alexander Hamilton

Benjamin Franklin

James Madison

Governour Morris

Fast forward to Patton and Ike

Reagan was divorced but I dare not venture whether he cheated on Jane Wyman

Feel free to bash Trump as ideologically flawed.,,..he is

But marital fidelity is a less reliable benchmark

Plenty of faithful libs


219 posted on 12/24/2015 10:25:40 AM PST by wardaddy (Save western civilization and save the world....lose it & it's a dark ages unknown to human history)
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To: kiryandil

I remember it all.


220 posted on 12/24/2015 10:30:05 AM PST by doug from upland (Some of you keep telling yourself -- Romney would have been as bad or worse.)
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