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Cannibalism May Have Wiped Out Neanderthals
Discovery News ^ | 2-27-2008 | Jennifer Viegas

Posted on 02/28/2008 6:52:33 PM PST by blam

Cannibalism May Have Wiped Out Neanderthals

Jennifer Viegas, Discovery News

Unhealthy Diets?

Feb. 27, 2008 -- A Neanderthal-eat-Neanderthal world may have spread a mad cow-like disease that weakened and reduced populations of the large Eurasian human, thereby contributing to its extinction, according to a new theory based on cannibalism that took place in more recent history.

Aside from illustrating that consumption of one's own species isn't exactly a healthy way to eat, the new theoretical model could resolve the longstanding mystery as to what caused Neanderthals, which emerged around 250,000 years ago, to disappear off the face of the Earth about 30,000 years ago.

"The story of Neanderthal extinction is one of the most intriguing in all of human evolution," author Simon Underdown told Discovery News. "Why did a large-brained, intelligent hominid that shared so many traits with us disappear?"

To resolve that question, Underdown, a lecturer in the Department of Anthropology at Oxford Brookes University, studied a well-documented tribal group, the Fore of Papua New Guinea, who practiced ritualistic cannibalism.

Gory evidence uncovered in a French cave in 1999 revealed Neanderthals likely practiced cannibalism. The 100,000-120,000 year-old bones discovered at the cave site of Moula-Guercy near the west bank of the Rhone river suggested a group of Neanderthals defleshed the bones of at least six other individuals and then broke the bones apart with a hammerstone and anvil to remove the marrow and brains.

Although it's not clear why Neanderthals may have eaten each other, research on the Fore determined that maternal kin of certain deceased Fore individuals used to dismember corpses and regarded some human flesh as a valuable food source.

Beginning in the early 1900's, anthropologists additionally began to take note of an affliction named Kuru among the Fore. By the 1960's, Kuru reached epidemic levels and killed over 1,100 people.

Subsequent investigations determined that Kuru was related to the Fore's cannibalistic activities and was a form of Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathy, or TSE. This is a class of disease that includes mad cow disease. Underdown said TSE's have been in existence for possibly millions of years.

According to his new paper, published in the journal Medical Hypotheses, TSE's "cause brain tissue to take on an almost sponge-like appearance, caused by the formation of small holes during the development of the disease."

The disease's latter stages often result in severe mental impairment, loss of speech and an inability to move.

He created a model, based on the Kuru findings, to figure out how the spread of such a disease via cannibalism could reduce a population's size. For example, he calculated that within a hypothetical group of 15,000 individuals, such a disease could reduce the population to non-viable levels within 250 years. When added to other pressures, this type of disease could therefore have wiped out the Neanderthals, Underdown believes.

"TSE's could have thinned the population, reducing numbers and contributing to their extinction in combination with other factors (such as climate change and the emergence of modern humans)," he said.

Such diseases have very long incubation periods, he further explained, so affected individuals may not show symptoms for a very long time. Similarly, people who consume TSE victims may not exhibit signs of illness immediately after eating.

"Neanderthals would have been unlikely to spot any causal relationship between cannibalism and TSE symptoms," Underdown said.

Since modern clinical tests show that medical instruments can carry infectious prions, which spread TSE's, even after such tools have been sterilized, it's also possible that sharing of stone tools could have additionally spread the disease among Neanderthals, even those that did not practice cannibalism.

Nick Barton, Director of the Institute of Archaeology at the University of Oxford, told Discovery News that he thinks the new paper presents "an extremely novel and very interesting theory."

"Most scholars now believe that the demise of the Neanderthals was not down to a single causal factor," Barton said. "However, if genetic studies eventually show that Neanderthals were susceptible to TSE, or other empirical evidence emerges for persistent cannibalism and consumption of brain tissues in late Neanderthal populations, then we may have to rethink our ideas on extinction."


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To: edcoil

Google “Nicolai Valuev” on You Tube.
You will be convinced.
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81 posted on 02/28/2008 9:49:11 PM PST by gigster
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they probably forgot to floss for a 100,000 years, and that took its toll.
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]

82 posted on 02/28/2008 9:50:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/___________________Profile updated Tuesday, February 19, 2008)
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83 posted on 02/28/2008 9:52:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/___________________Profile updated Tuesday, February 19, 2008)
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To: blam

So who was left to break the wishbone?


84 posted on 02/28/2008 9:56:58 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Guns don't kill people, gun free zones kill people)
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To: FFranco

“Then there are others who claim that interbreeding between Cro Magnons and Neanderthals would not have been possible.”

Trust me. With enough alcohol, *anything* is possible.


85 posted on 02/28/2008 9:59:49 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: blam
cannibalistic activities and was a form of Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathy, or TSE

TSE is not confined to Cannibalism, it affects all Species that eat Meat, including us. It very rarely causes a disease, 1 in a Mill.

86 posted on 02/28/2008 10:01:11 PM PST by modican
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To: blam

Eaten by red heads.

What a way to go.


87 posted on 02/28/2008 11:14:42 PM PST by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent......)
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To: mamelukesabre

Frank Perdue used to have ads on televisiohn, selling his Perdue Chickens. He would frequently exclaim “parts is parts” He looked and sounded like H. Ross Perot..


88 posted on 02/28/2008 11:18:54 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: JoJo Gunn

“A dingo ayt yo baby!”


89 posted on 02/28/2008 11:23:05 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: blam

Mad man disease.

Maybe that’s how they got to look so distorted.


90 posted on 02/28/2008 11:24:33 PM PST by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us." Duncan Hunter knows.)
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To: blam

Cannibalism!!??

What happened to duck with mango salsa?


91 posted on 02/28/2008 11:25:44 PM PST by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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To: SpaceBar

“Tastes like chicken.”

The Other White Meat.


92 posted on 02/28/2008 11:28:41 PM PST by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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To: sheik yerbouty
“Parts is parts..”

Little bitty pieces parts...

the infowarrior

93 posted on 02/28/2008 11:37:18 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: Pelham

“Long pig”.


94 posted on 02/28/2008 11:40:51 PM PST by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent......)
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To: Republic of Texas
“When you see a story with the word “may” in the title, you know you’re about to treated to a bunch of wild ass guesses.”

SWAG’s, not WAG’s. Scientific Wild-Assed Guesses.

distinguishable only by the S preceding the WAG. ;)

95 posted on 02/29/2008 3:56:50 AM PST by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: blam
Cannibalism May Have Wiped Out Neanderthals Conservatives

there, fixed it

96 posted on 02/29/2008 4:01:59 AM PST by beebuster2000 (choice is not not peace or war, but small war now, or big war later masquerading as peace now.)
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To: blam

"Stop it, Stop it!! Stop this cannibalism! Let's have a thread about clean, decent human beings."

97 posted on 02/29/2008 4:05:14 AM PST by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: sheik yerbouty

Never heard of that one. I remember a series of wendy’s commercials from about 1984 that used that phrase to criticize the “chicken nuggets” that were being offered in all the burger joints at that time.


98 posted on 02/29/2008 5:26:04 AM PST by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: gigster

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YIKES!


99 posted on 02/29/2008 6:02:54 AM PST by veggiefrog
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To: modican
TSE is not confined to Cannibalism, it affects all Species that eat Meat, including us. It very rarely causes a disease, 1 in a Mill.

Yeah, but isn't the problem that once TSE takes hold in a population that practices cannibalism that it spreads much more efficiently? ie. A single cow with mad cow disease can infect how many humans? When those individuals who contracted Mad Cow die, no harm is done to the rest of the population, right? Am I missing something here?

100 posted on 02/29/2008 6:34:19 AM PST by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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