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Cannibalism May Have Wiped Out Neanderthals
Discovery News ^ | 2-27-2008 | Jennifer Viegas

Posted on 02/28/2008 6:52:33 PM PST by blam

Cannibalism May Have Wiped Out Neanderthals

Jennifer Viegas, Discovery News

Unhealthy Diets?

Feb. 27, 2008 -- A Neanderthal-eat-Neanderthal world may have spread a mad cow-like disease that weakened and reduced populations of the large Eurasian human, thereby contributing to its extinction, according to a new theory based on cannibalism that took place in more recent history.

Aside from illustrating that consumption of one's own species isn't exactly a healthy way to eat, the new theoretical model could resolve the longstanding mystery as to what caused Neanderthals, which emerged around 250,000 years ago, to disappear off the face of the Earth about 30,000 years ago.

"The story of Neanderthal extinction is one of the most intriguing in all of human evolution," author Simon Underdown told Discovery News. "Why did a large-brained, intelligent hominid that shared so many traits with us disappear?"

To resolve that question, Underdown, a lecturer in the Department of Anthropology at Oxford Brookes University, studied a well-documented tribal group, the Fore of Papua New Guinea, who practiced ritualistic cannibalism.

Gory evidence uncovered in a French cave in 1999 revealed Neanderthals likely practiced cannibalism. The 100,000-120,000 year-old bones discovered at the cave site of Moula-Guercy near the west bank of the Rhone river suggested a group of Neanderthals defleshed the bones of at least six other individuals and then broke the bones apart with a hammerstone and anvil to remove the marrow and brains.

Although it's not clear why Neanderthals may have eaten each other, research on the Fore determined that maternal kin of certain deceased Fore individuals used to dismember corpses and regarded some human flesh as a valuable food source.

Beginning in the early 1900's, anthropologists additionally began to take note of an affliction named Kuru among the Fore. By the 1960's, Kuru reached epidemic levels and killed over 1,100 people.

Subsequent investigations determined that Kuru was related to the Fore's cannibalistic activities and was a form of Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathy, or TSE. This is a class of disease that includes mad cow disease. Underdown said TSE's have been in existence for possibly millions of years.

According to his new paper, published in the journal Medical Hypotheses, TSE's "cause brain tissue to take on an almost sponge-like appearance, caused by the formation of small holes during the development of the disease."

The disease's latter stages often result in severe mental impairment, loss of speech and an inability to move.

He created a model, based on the Kuru findings, to figure out how the spread of such a disease via cannibalism could reduce a population's size. For example, he calculated that within a hypothetical group of 15,000 individuals, such a disease could reduce the population to non-viable levels within 250 years. When added to other pressures, this type of disease could therefore have wiped out the Neanderthals, Underdown believes.

"TSE's could have thinned the population, reducing numbers and contributing to their extinction in combination with other factors (such as climate change and the emergence of modern humans)," he said.

Such diseases have very long incubation periods, he further explained, so affected individuals may not show symptoms for a very long time. Similarly, people who consume TSE victims may not exhibit signs of illness immediately after eating.

"Neanderthals would have been unlikely to spot any causal relationship between cannibalism and TSE symptoms," Underdown said.

Since modern clinical tests show that medical instruments can carry infectious prions, which spread TSE's, even after such tools have been sterilized, it's also possible that sharing of stone tools could have additionally spread the disease among Neanderthals, even those that did not practice cannibalism.

Nick Barton, Director of the Institute of Archaeology at the University of Oxford, told Discovery News that he thinks the new paper presents "an extremely novel and very interesting theory."

"Most scholars now believe that the demise of the Neanderthals was not down to a single causal factor," Barton said. "However, if genetic studies eventually show that Neanderthals were susceptible to TSE, or other empirical evidence emerges for persistent cannibalism and consumption of brain tissues in late Neanderthal populations, then we may have to rethink our ideas on extinction."


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To: adorno
But then, how do you explain our evolution within our own lifetime to "modern humans"?
Why?....William F. Buckley, showed us the way...He will be missed. :^/
61 posted on 02/28/2008 8:26:10 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you...our hopes were dashed by CINOs :)
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To: blam

Bttt! Till I get a chance to respond.


62 posted on 02/28/2008 8:27:00 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: edcoil

Cannibalism May Have Wiped Out Neanderthals”

One had to be left.

You mean Two


63 posted on 02/28/2008 8:29:19 PM PST by ThomasThomas ( John McCain a true BLUE conservative)
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To: Zeppo

Some hold that the Neanderthals were harem-keepers and that Modern Man did them one better by pioneering the nuclear family structure.

Physical evidence cannot tell one way or the other, however.

Also a mystery is the artistic/technological explosion among humans about 40,000 years ago. Modern humans did not seem to live any differently from the Neanderthals until that moment.

Alien monoliths, anyone?


64 posted on 02/28/2008 8:29:22 PM PST by sinanju
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To: mamelukesabre
“Parts is parts..”~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~I wonder how many people remember where that little soundbite came from?

....they were "fused" (chicken parks)

65 posted on 02/28/2008 8:30:52 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you...our hopes were dashed by CINOs :)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

FOLKS YAH GOTTA READ THIS ONE IF YOU READ THE ABOVE ARTICLE>

http://www.rdos.net/eng/asperger.htm


66 posted on 02/28/2008 8:31:40 PM PST by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: utherdoul

That’s because you are chained in Plato’s Cave.


67 posted on 02/28/2008 8:32:09 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: familyop

http://www.rdos.net/eng/asperger.htm


68 posted on 02/28/2008 8:32:22 PM PST by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: SpaceBar

I read that the Neanderthals were physically much more massive than us. That the tendon attachment points on their bones are huge in comparison to ours.

I know when I see a skinny guy with comparatively large hands and massive wrists I know not to arm-wrestle him.


69 posted on 02/28/2008 8:32:48 PM PST by sinanju
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To: blam
Or it might not have, and people who make stuff like this up might be utterly ridiculous fools with too much time on their hands.
70 posted on 02/28/2008 8:34:01 PM PST by JasonC
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To: adorno

MUTATION MUTATION HUSSEIN,..er sorry MUTATION>..


71 posted on 02/28/2008 8:34:31 PM PST by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: FFranco

They’re just protein molecules, basically.

Not alive by any stretch of the imagination.


72 posted on 02/28/2008 8:34:34 PM PST by sinanju
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To: blam

The Formed the NBA.


73 posted on 02/28/2008 8:36:09 PM PST by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: mamelukesabre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTzLVIc-O5E


74 posted on 02/28/2008 8:38:46 PM PST by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: org.whodat
Draw a circle on the wall, list all probable causes and maybe’s, throw one dart! You probably came as close as anyone else.

Occam's Razor is useful here for discounting the moon bat theories such as this one. All animals have variations on a theme alive today except for one: humans. There were many humanoids in the past but despite their high intelligence they all died off. The simplest explanation is that they were killed off in war, by us. Modern humans are remarkably all the same and that's because war trims the competing tribes down to best of breed, culture, and technology. Narcissistic leftists refuse to accept that man is a war maker by nature so they grasp at every moon bat theory they can.

75 posted on 02/28/2008 8:39:43 PM PST by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: mamelukesabre
Pear shaped, but solid as a rock. Size 12 shoe, etc.

Janet Reno?

76 posted on 02/28/2008 8:43:55 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Reeses

If that’s the case, then why should this process stop? What’s the last remaining tribe to look like? Any predictions?


77 posted on 02/28/2008 8:45:13 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: buccaneer81

Nooo. Way more solider.


78 posted on 02/28/2008 8:46:42 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: Mike Darancette

Someone ate the baby
it’s rather sad to say
Someone ate the baby so she won’t be out to play
We’ll never hear her whiney cry or have to feel if she is dry
We’ll never hear her asking why why why
someone ate the baby

Someone ate the baby
it’s absolutely clear
Someone ate the baby cause the baby isn’t here
We’ll give away her toys and clothes
we’ll never have to wipe her nose
Dad says that’s the way it goes
someone ate the baby

Someone ate the baby
what a frightful thing to eat
Someone ate the baby though she wasn’t very sweet
It was a heartless thing to do
the policemen haven’t got a clue
I simply can’t imagine who would go and (burp) eat the baby

Shel Silverstein


79 posted on 02/28/2008 9:13:29 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered. ©)
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To: Mike Darancette
"Who ate the last Neanderthal? "

The first Melungeon.

80 posted on 02/28/2008 9:33:44 PM PST by matthew fuller (United We Stand- Diversified We Fall)
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