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Genghis Khan's Pen As Mighty As His Sword
IOL ^ | 8-23-2004

Posted on 08/23/2004 6:46:57 AM PDT by blam

Genghis Khan's pen as mighty as his sword?

August 23 2004 at 11:45AM

Beijing - A Chinese historian says he has evidence that ruthless conqueror and master of the Mongol horde Genghis Khan was as masterful with the pen as he was with the sword.

Historians have long assumed the ancient Mongolian ruler was illiterate, primarily because the Mongolian written language was created in the early 13th century, when Genghis Khan would have been in his 40s and not have had time to learn, the official Xinhua news agency said.

However, Tengus Bayaryn, a professor at China's Inner Mongolia University, announced he had found an "autographic edict" written by Genghis Khan in 1219 inside a book sent to a Chinese Taoist priest, it said.

"The original message, in Mongolian, was written in a unique style and tone and could only have been been drafted by the great ruler himself," Bayaryn was quoted as saying.

A later note penned to the same Taoist scholar read: "I've ordered the ministers to compile a handbook of your lesson and will read it personally," Xinhua said.

"That 'I will read it personally' suggests clearly Genghis Khan could read the Mongolian version of the sermon," Bararyn said.

Genghis Khan, born around 1167, unified disparate Mongolian tribes to create a lethal, horseback fighting force that rode roughshod over China and Central Asia and forged a short-lived empire that reached as far west as Poland and Hungary


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KEYWORDS: epigraphyandlanguage; genghis; genghiskhan; genocide; ggg; godgravesglyphs; godsgravesglyphs; khans; mighty; mongolmassmurderers; pen; sword

1 posted on 08/23/2004 6:46:57 AM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 08/23/2004 6:47:26 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
That's pronounced "Jen-jis", don'tcha know...
3 posted on 08/23/2004 6:47:53 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (We live in a wonderful country where any child can grow up to be the next Ronald Reagan.)
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To: bondjamesbond

for that reason alone I will never vote for Kerry. Jen-Jis khan!!! where is this guy from??


4 posted on 08/23/2004 6:50:35 AM PDT by escapefromboston
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To: bondjamesbond

This kerry guy is giving me a trejenjis head-ache


5 posted on 08/23/2004 6:50:48 AM PDT by C210N
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To: blam

Genghis Khan apparently was the supreme alpha male having about 16,000,000 descendents. Raping all those women had some effect even to this very day.


6 posted on 08/23/2004 7:00:08 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (The greatest pleasure is to ...)
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To: escapefromboston
for that reason alone I will never vote for Kerry. Jen-Jis khan!!! where is this guy from??

You have a problem with the way Kerry spoke 30 years ago? He no longer tries to sound like me. He just acts like me now.

Thurston

7 posted on 08/23/2004 7:11:33 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Strategery - "W" plays poker with one hand and chess with the other.)
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To: isthisnickcool

if thurston was sooooo rich shouldn't he had his own boat?? besides that , gilligans island was totally believable.

PS if anyone is from Boston and listens to the howie carr radio show , Howie's impression of Kerry sounds alot like Thurston.


8 posted on 08/23/2004 7:17:12 AM PDT by escapefromboston
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To: blam
Historians have long assumed the ancient Mongolian ruler was illiterate, primarily because the Mongolian written language was created in the early 13th century, when Genghis Khan would have been in his 40s and not have had time to learn, the official Xinhua news agency said.

Just as Latin was used in Europe, Chinese and Pali were used in Asia before the development of some written languages. Just an asside but the assumption that the functions of a language are not being filled in the absence of an indiginous written language are not justified in most cases.

However, the idea that Genghis Khan wrote in Mongolian is facinating and I hope for more of his work

9 posted on 08/23/2004 7:42:02 AM PDT by JimSEA ( "More Bush, Less Taxes.")
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To: blam
The great Khan was the guy who broke the back of the muslim empire, a catastrophe from which it has never recovered. The muslim wackos like OBL seem to blame western European civilization. The truth is that, as Khan was edging into the middle east, he sent a party of emissaries to a muslim capitol. They slaughtered them and sent their heads back to Khan. With that Khan proceeded to butcher everyone in the city and in the ensuing years methodically went from city to city in the middle east totally destroying muslim culture and civilization. It was probably the most devastating calamity to ever happen to a major civilization, something on the order of what happened to the Incas.
10 posted on 08/23/2004 8:41:51 AM PDT by laishly
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To: laishly

True. And it was Genghis Khan, the Chinese King, who burned the library at Alexandria, Egypt, detroying all those ancient documents.


11 posted on 08/23/2004 9:36:48 AM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; A.J.Armitage; abner; adam_az; ...
Thanks blam!
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12 posted on 08/23/2004 11:20:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: escapefromboston

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaston.


13 posted on 08/23/2004 11:24:32 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: SunkenCiv

Very interesting article.Thanks for the ping.


14 posted on 08/23/2004 11:25:52 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: laishly

The Muslim world had already fractured into smaller states by the time the Mongols hit. Your story about the decapitation of the Mongol emissaries is true, but it was done by one of the smaller Muslim states, Khwarezm, in central Asia.


15 posted on 08/23/2004 11:30:29 PM PDT by Seydlitz
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To: combat_boots

Actually, the library at Alexandria had been burned nearly 1400 years before, during a battle between the Egyptians and Julius Caesar's Roman legions.


16 posted on 08/23/2004 11:31:35 PM PDT by Seydlitz
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To: blam
The great Ruler said (and I quote)

Did you know I served in Vietnam? ;)

17 posted on 08/23/2004 11:36:29 PM PDT by Libertina (Abandoning Vietnam: 3.5 million died, (2.5 in Cambodia killing fields), 1.4 mil refugees)
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To: blam

This story demonstrates the dire need for licensing and registration of all pens. And a central handwriting database.

Of course, typewriters must remain available for law enforcement officers only.


18 posted on 08/23/2004 11:45:38 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: combat_boots; Seydlitz
Fascinating history of the library. Notes that the library was *not* burned by Julius Caesar, and in fact was around throughout Roman times, and was finally consigned to the flames by the Moslems -- as recorded by a Moslem historian:

The Vanished Library The Vanished Library
by Luciano Canfora
tr by Martin Ryle


19 posted on 08/24/2004 5:58:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: blam

Oh Goody.


20 posted on 08/24/2004 7:24:36 AM PDT by eleni121 (Thank God for John Ashcroft: Four more years!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Actually, the library was burned during the fighting between the Eqyptians and Romans. perhaps some remnant survived that was burned in later times. In late 48 B.C., Caesar commanded an expeditionary force to settle the civil war between Cleopatra and her brother, Ptolemy. A large fleet of war galleys was in the harbor at Alexandria, and Caesar ordered the ships burned, lest they fall into the hands of the Ptolemy's Egyptians. As the great American military biographer, Col. Theodore Ayraut Dodge noted, "It was in the conflaguration thus begun that Alexandrian library perished, togerther with many other public buildings and treasures." (Dodge, "Julius Caesar", pg. 582)

According to the link you provide, Canfora's rather lowly-rated book is merely expressing an opinion on when the library was destroyed - one that flies in the face of a mountain of evidence to the contrary. Again, perhaps some small remnant of the library survived, only to be destroyed at a later date.

21 posted on 08/24/2004 7:39:31 AM PDT by Seydlitz
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To: Seydlitz
Actually, no it wasn't. The library was not burned by Caesar or in Caesar's time. In Caesar's own account, the fire set among the Egyptian ships spread to the dock area, and burned "some books which chanced to be there". The Great Library was in the citadel, which is where Caesar was at the time of the fire. Since the library is referred to and continued to be used for six more centuries, claiming that Caesar burned it is difficult to reconcile.

So much for your "mountain of evidence".

As Canfora noted, after the Moslem conquest, the caliph was consulted. He sent back word that anything in the library that conflicts with the Koran should be burned, and that anything that agreed with the Koran wasn't needed either, because they had the Koran. The burning of the library's 400,000+ books (which by that time had been copied onto parchment, rather than the original papyrus, and as Canfora said, was "crawling with errors") took place in the heating systems for public baths, and took six months.

22 posted on 08/24/2004 7:56:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: combat_boots
And it was Genghis Khan, the Chinese King, who burned the library at Alexandria, Egypt, detroying all those ancient documents.

Wrong.
The suspects for the destruction of the Great Library at Alexandria are Caesar, Patriarch Theophilus of Alexandria and Caliph Omar of Damascus - A Roman, a Christian, and a Moslem.

23 posted on 08/24/2004 7:59:13 AM PDT by paleocon patriarch (Rule One: -"The cover-up is worse than the event." Rule Two: "No one ever remembers the first rule.)
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To: Seydlitz
library at Alexandria

The new library at Alexandria hasn't been burned, yet.

24 posted on 08/24/2004 9:07:24 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: blam

Sigh. Most historians seem to misspell the name, Ghengis. ;-)


25 posted on 08/24/2004 10:26:34 AM PDT by Ghengis
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