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Posted on 06/13/2013 7:27:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
...a team of archaeologists excavating in India then claimed to have found evidence that modern humans were there before the eruption possibly as early as 120,000 years ago, much earlier than Europe or the Near East were colonised. These findings, based on the discovery of stone tools below a layer of Toba ash, were published in Science in 2007.
Now Professor Richards working principally with the archaeologist Professor Sir Paul Mellars, of the University of Cambridge and the University of Edinburgh, with a team including Huddersfield University s Dr Martin Carr and colleagues from York and Porto has published his rebuttal of this theory. In doing so, they have been able to draw on a much greater body of DNA evidence that was available for the earlier article.
One of the things we didn't have in 2005 was very much evidence from India in the way of mitochondrial sequences. Now, with a lot of people doing sequencing and depositing material in databases there are about 1,000 sequences from India, said Professor Richards.
By using the mitochondrial DNA of today s populations and working backwards, and by drawing on a wide variety of other evidence and research, the team was able to make much more precise estimates for the arrival of modern humans in India.
(Excerpt) Read more at hud.ac.uk ...
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Toba super-volcano catastrophe idea ‘dismissed’
BBC News | Jonathan Amos
Posted on 05/02/2013 7:34:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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It's always remarkable that the Clovis-first-and-only school claims that the Americas were first colonized in one go, in next to no time -- but no one in the "old world" ever moved much at all. /s |
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We’re only as old as we feel.
Another article on the subject:
http://www.d.umn.edu/external-affairs/homepage/13/llo-lakemalawi.html
Thanks.
A thought ~ Toba killed off the big cats as well as their game making it possible for humans to re-enter the area without much competition or risk of being eaten.
Eventually the big cats returned but the human population was enough to more than match them.
Same idea I have about the Younger Dryas event ~ before the event humans could not readily move permanently into verdant grasslands full of game because of the high population of big cats. After the event, humans owned the place because the cats were gone.
Makes sense for the Americas too. Population could not spread far and wide until the giant American lion died off at the end of the last ice age (although based on numerous sightings from the 1790s to the present, there may be relict populations of the lions still around).
(although based on numerous sightings from the 1790s to the present, there may be relict populations of the lions still around)
are you talking about mountain lions or the lions extincted by the events of the younger dryas.
(I’ve never read reports of any lions but mountain lions in the USA. as to other big cats, I’ve seen pictures of jaguars north of the border.)
Same idea I have about the Younger Dryas event ~ before the event humans could not readily move permanently into verdant grasslands full of game because of the high population of big cats. After the event, humans owned the place because the cats were gone.
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I thought the problem was the big short faced bear.
A human would be easy prey for a 2,000 lb predator that could run 40mph. Clovis man seemed able to cope with such a critter, but they seemed to have disappeared about the same time the bears did.
The cats were dominant ~ bears were among their ‘game’ ~ doesn’t mean the bears and wolves were nice folks. Look up SABRE TOOTHED TIGER ~ there were three major species ~ all bad ~
Toba’s a myth.
Listen buddy, it’s Out-of-Africa or nothing. Got it.
Wow and Tamboa was enough to give us a year without a summer.
We have a dormant volcanic formation at the East end of Lake Superior. There's another one in the vicinity of Martinsville and Baden Springs Indiana. I know of one that's still chemically different enough on the top to show up as a large round zone just Souf' of Seymour, Indiana.
Those things are dormant just like the one in Reston, Virginia is dormant.
I don't expect them to blow up any time soon BUT..... (heavy drums beating in the background) .... it's a lot easier to get them to do that than most folks imagined.
BTW, there's one at the confluence of the Rhine and Mein rivers in Deutschland. Even has some still extant vents. It has gone off a time or two since the disappearance of the Eur-Asian ice!
"has published his rebuttal of this theory. In doing so, they have been able to draw on a much greater body of DNA evidence than was available for the earlier article."
Funny how a small typographical error can completely change the meaning of a sentence.
Cranky ping-list responders today, LOL!
Um... I hope they’re just kidding.
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