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The Urgent Quest To Find Banana’s “Mystery Ancestors”
Scitech Daily ^ | NOVEMBER 16, 2022 | By FRONTIERS

Posted on 11/16/2022 11:27:55 AM PST by Red Badger

Bananas on Table

The scientists believe there are at least three wild ‘mystery ancestors’.

Scientists are peeling back ancient layers of banana DNA in order to find the “mystery ancestors” before they go extinct. It is believed that humans domesticated bananas for the first time 7,000 years ago on the island of New Guinea. However, the history of banana domestication is complicated, and the distinction between species and subspecies is often unclear.

A new study published in the journal Frontiers in Plant Science reveals that this history is significantly more complicated than previously imagined. The findings show that the genomes of the current domesticated varieties include remnants from three extra, as of yet unidentified, ancestors.

“Here we show that most of today’s diploid cultivated bananas that descend from the wild banana M. acuminata are hybrids between different subspecies. At least three extra wild ‘mystery ancestors’ must have contributed to this mixed genome thousands of years ago, but haven’t been identified yet,” said Dr. Julie Sardos, a scientist at The Alliance of Bioversity International and CIAT in Montpellier, France, and the study’s first author.

Complex domestication history

Domesticated bananas (except for Fei bananas in the Pacific) are believed to have descended from a group of four ancestors, which were either subspecies of the wild banana Musa acuminata or different but closely related species. Before being domesticated, M. acuminata existed in Australasia and seems to have developed on the northern borderlands between India and Myanmar about 10 million years ago. Another complication is that domesticated varieties may contain two (‘diploid’), three (‘triploid’), or four (‘tetraploid’) copies of every chromosome, and many are derived from the wild species M. balbisiana.

Recent smaller-scale studies suggested that other ancestors linked to M. acuminata may have been involved in the domestication, suggesting that even this highly complicated scenario may not be the whole story. The latest findings not only validate this to be the case but also demonstrate for the first time that these gene pools are common in domesticated banana genomes.

Banana collecting missions

The authors sequenced the DNA in 226 extracts leaf extracts from the world’s largest collection of banana samples at The Alliance of Bioversity International and CIAT’s “Musa Germplasm Transit Centre” in Belgium. Among these samples, 68 belonged to nine wild subspecies of M. acuminata, 154 to diploid domesticated varieties descended from M. acuminata, and four more distantly related wild species and hybrids as comparisons. Many had previously been gathered in dedicated ‘banana collecting missions’ to Indonesia, the island of New Guinea, and the autonomous region of Bougainville.

The researchers first measured the levels of relatedness between cultivars and wild bananas and made “family trees” based on the diversity at 39,031 Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms (SNPs). They used a subset of these – evenly spread across the genome, with each pair demarcating a block of approximately 100,000 “DNA letters” – to statistically analyze the ancestry of each block. For the first time, they detected traces of three further ancestors in the genome of all domesticated samples, for which no matches are yet known from the wild.

Mystery ancestors might survive somewhere

The mystery ancestors might be long since extinct. “But our personal conviction is that they are still living somewhere in the wild, either poorly described by science or not described at all, in which case they are probably threatened,” said Sardos.

Sardos and his team have a good idea of where to look for them: “Our genetic comparisons show that the first of these mystery ancestors must have come from the region between the Gulf of Thailand and west of the South China Sea. The second is from the region between north Borneo and the Philippines. The third, from the island of New Guinea.”

Could help breed better bananas

Which useful traits these mystery ancestors might have contributed to domesticated bananas is not yet known. For example, the crucial trait of parthenocarpy, fruit setting without the need for pollination, is thought to have been inherited from M. acuminata, while cooking bananas owe a large chunk of their DNA to the subspecies (or perhaps separate species) M. acuminata banksii.

Second corresponding author Dr. Mathieu Rouard, likewise at Bioversity International, said: “Identifying the ancestors of cultivated bananas is important, as it will help us understand the processes and the paths that shaped the banana diversity observed today, a crucial step to breed bananas of the future.”

“Breeders need to understand the genetic make-up of today’s domesticated diploid bananas for their crosses between cultivars, and this study is a major first step toward the characterization in great detail of many of these cultivars.”

Sardos said: “Based on these results, we will work with partners to explore and genotype wild banana diversity in the three geographic regions that our study pinpointed, with the hope to identify these unidentified contributors to cultivated bananas. It will also be important to investigate the different advantages and traits that each of these contributors provided to cultivated bananas.”

Reference:

“Hybridization, missing wild ancestors and the domestication of cultivated diploid bananas” by Julie Sardos, Catherine Breton, Xavier Perrier, Ines Van den Houwe, Sebastien Carpentier, Janet Paofa, Mathieu Rouard and Nicolas Roux, 7 October 2022, Frontiers in Plant Science.

DOI: 10.3389/fpls.2022.969220

The study was funded by the CGIAR Research Program Roots, Tubers and Bananas, and the CGIAR Genebank Platform.


TOPICS: Agriculture; Business/Economy; Food; History
KEYWORDS: agriculture; ancientnavigation; banana; dietandcuisine; dna; farm; fruit; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; newguinea; northborneo; philippines
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To: Red Badger

Can they breed it to taste like a hamburger? Then maybe I’ll eat one.
Bananas have always gone straight to my gag reflex, from babyhood til now.

Good for you? Great source of potassium, but yummy avocados have more.


21 posted on 11/16/2022 12:38:30 PM PST by Veto! (FJB sucks rocks)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Genetics totally has its place. It’s central to biological science and Gregor Mendel is the most important biologist ever.


22 posted on 11/16/2022 12:55:21 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: BipolarBob

The old bananas from the 50s were a variety called Gros Michel (Big Mike) and they got a blight. They are rare now, you can still find them if you feel like trekking into the jungle to find them but mass production is impossible because of the blight. The ones they replaced them with were a type called the cavendish banana and it was considered a “junk banana” meaning it lacked flavor. But it had the most important characteristics, it could be grown on existing plantations as-is and it could withstand long shipping times without spoiling quickly, which the old good bananas could also do but most could not. So we now have the junk banana. I was born after the old ones went away so I never had them. I’ve sometimes wondered if banana flavored candies are somehow reminiscent of them because they taste nothing like modern bananas.


23 posted on 11/16/2022 12:57:47 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (This post is subject to removal pending review by government censorship officials)
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To: z3n

What do you think mRNA is?


24 posted on 11/16/2022 1:03:40 PM PST by Pelham (World War III will be fought with nuclear weapons. World War IV will be fought with rocks & sticks.)
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To: Fungi
this banana was much tastier but when it was wiped out, growers were forced to use the now-standard (and blander) Cavendish variety.

A Hawaiian once told me about "ice cream bananas" that grow in HI. People pick them off the trees and eat them. They also might be known as blue java bananas. Wish they were grown and sold in the Continental U.S.

25 posted on 11/16/2022 1:11:29 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: BipolarBob

One of the reasons artificial banana flavor is such a poor match for today’s banana is it was developed for an entirely different variety of banana.


26 posted on 11/16/2022 1:54:16 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: BipolarBob
"The breed of bananas we eat today are not the kind we ate when we were kids."

That's correct.

27 posted on 11/16/2022 2:23:47 PM PST by blam
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To: Fungi
Back in the 1950s, the most popular banana cultivar, called the Gros Michel

"Big Mike" banana? No thanks.......

28 posted on 11/16/2022 7:20:14 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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To: Pelham

What do you think mRNA is?

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I said that in jest.
Not really even a funny joke either. The concept is that phizer and big pharma will find a way to exploit the issue. Not that mRNA technology directly applies to banana plants or fungus, although I’m not so sure something like it couldn’t. We already have a lot of GMOs


29 posted on 11/17/2022 6:34:13 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: Red Badger; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Hundreds of generations have been plaintain this crop. We must peel back the barriers keeping us from knowing its history. Thanks Red Badger.

30 posted on 11/17/2022 7:38:01 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

That’s a real slippery slope we’re on...................


31 posted on 11/17/2022 7:41:37 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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Sometimes a banana is just a banana.
Freudian slip

32 posted on 11/17/2022 7:43:09 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: pepsi_junkie

Seems like the Gros Michel bananas could be a profitable specialty item if they really do taste better than the cavendish.


33 posted on 11/17/2022 7:58:58 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: z3n

Plants apparenty do make use of mRNA, and like with mammals it’s a part of their protein synthesis. I wasn’t sure if plants would use it since they lack anything resembling a circulatory system but evidently that’s not a problem.


34 posted on 11/17/2022 2:45:29 PM PST by Pelham (World War III will be fought with nuclear weapons. World War IV will be fought with rocks & sticks.)
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To: Pelham

No, not our nanners! Fungi ruin everything :(

Wanna have nightmares? There’s a brain eating fungus that plasters giant spiders to trees. Seriously. No, I did not read it in The Daily Expose, Steve Kirsch’s substack or the Q thread. It’s for real:

https://spinelesswonders.smugmug.com/Arachnids/SpidersSouthEastAsia/South-East-Asian-Sparassidae-Huntsman/

These spiders can get huge. As in nearly dinner plate size. Okay, luncheon plate. But that’s still huge.


35 posted on 11/17/2022 7:08:04 PM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: Red Badger

So, bread, butter, baklava, bananas...


36 posted on 11/17/2022 10:39:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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Flor de Cana - Banana (1988) | faboo93 | May 5, 2013
Flor de Cana - Banana (1988) | faboo93 | May 5, 2013

37 posted on 11/20/2022 6:18:35 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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