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Havering Hoard: Weapons found on building site to go on show
BBC ^ | October 21, 2019 | unattributed

Posted on 10/31/2019 10:52:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

Ancient weapons discovered on a building site will go on display at the Museum of London Docklands.

The group of 453 artefacts found in Havering, east London, is the third largest ever discovered in the UK...

The find, which dates from between 800BC and 900BC, was officially declared treasure by a coroner earlier this year.

The discovery, dubbed the Havering Hoard, was uncovered last September, and will form the centrepiece of a major exhibition from April.

Archaeologists believed the manner in which the weapons had been so carefully buried in groups close together suggested the site could have been a metal workers' former vault or an armoury recycling bank or exchange, the Local Democracy Reporting Service said.

Archaeologists believe the site could have been a metal workers' former vault[.]

Roy Stephenson, from the Museum of London, which is part of the same museum group as the Museum of London Docklands, said: "We're thrilled to be able to display this momentous discovery for the first time as the centrepiece of a major exhibition.

"It's incredibly rare to have uncovered four separate hoards of such size on one site.

"This discovery is also of huge importance due to the deliberate placement of each deposit and raises questions as to why this treasure was buried in this way and why it was never recovered."

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: bronzeage; copper; eastlondon; godsgravesglyphs; havering; haveringhoard; tin
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A group of 453 artefacts are due to go on display at a museum next year © LDRS

A group of 453 artefacts are due to go on display at a museum next year © LDRS

1 posted on 10/31/2019 10:52:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 10/31/2019 10:53:04 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Why don’t they clean them up?


3 posted on 10/31/2019 10:54:08 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I bet a brillo pad would make them all shiny and nice.


4 posted on 10/31/2019 10:55:56 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yet, not an AR to be found.


5 posted on 10/31/2019 10:57:34 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: SunkenCiv

Assault weapons of the day.


6 posted on 10/31/2019 10:57:36 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with islamic terrorists - they want to die for allah and we want to kill them.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Very cool


7 posted on 10/31/2019 10:59:58 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Weapons are forbidden in London.


8 posted on 10/31/2019 11:01:10 AM PDT by lurk
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Very cool. I went to the Museum of London this year, it is quite good. I did not get to the Dockland museum. Wishing I had now


9 posted on 10/31/2019 11:03:07 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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relevant Hoard title search hits:

10 posted on 10/31/2019 11:05:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Hot Tabasco; ClearCase_guy
They were cleaned up, but it was done by a British dentist.

11 posted on 10/31/2019 11:06:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Why don’t they clean them up?

Those ARE cleaned up. Here they are as found in their verdigrised glory:



12 posted on 10/31/2019 11:09:17 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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> Weapons are forbidden in London. <

No worries, mate. After the exhibition is over, all the weapons will be thrown into one of these bins.

P.S. Isn’t that bin about the dumbest idea ever? I’m guessing that the total number of knives collected from UK Islamists is exactly zero.


13 posted on 10/31/2019 11:16:32 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: SunkenCiv
… metal workers' former vault

No! The government had confiscated them and kept them for safekeeping. The owner could check them out for weekend practice at the range, but had to get them back to the government vault by sundown or else face arrest and imprisonment for having banned weapons at home.

14 posted on 10/31/2019 11:17:57 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SunkenCiv

I hope they didn’t have pointy ends on them.


15 posted on 10/31/2019 11:24:05 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Hot Tabasco

“Why don’t they clean them up?” [Hot Tabasco, post 3]

Because researchers haven’t finished studying them yet.

The amount of corrosion and its chemical composition can provide more clues to how the makers, users, companions (and adversaries) lived: what they ate, how they made the weapons, how they used them, who they used them on, what they died of.

Data collection methods have advanced; so has analysis. There is now more to it that digging bones and potsherds out of the dirt, slowly and carefully.


16 posted on 10/31/2019 11:27:29 AM PDT by schurmann
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To: Leaning Right

Where are the bins for hammers, ropes, axes, hatchets, steel toed boots, baseball bats, sharp pointy knives, butter knives, plastic straws, sharpened pencils, elbows, evil SUVs, feet and fists?


17 posted on 10/31/2019 11:29:47 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill

In warehouse awaiting the moment.


18 posted on 10/31/2019 11:43:18 AM PDT by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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To: Swordmaker
Those ARE cleaned up.

Well they didn't do a very good job......LOL!

I saw a video where some guy who magnet fishes had found numerous knives in rivers and when he was done with them they looked like new..........

19 posted on 10/31/2019 11:47:56 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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To: SunkenCiv
For those of us outside England / Britain, the following may be a bit confusing;

The find, which dates from between 800BC and 900BC, was officially declared treasure by a coroner earlier this year.

In these cases, pursuant to the "Treasure Act of 1996", if a 'find' has items of historic heritage or coinage older than 300 years [other criteria], then the local coroner is informed within 14 days and that person has the responsibility of saying yea or nay to the find being a 'treasure'. If yea, the coroner would inform the relevant parties, e.g. the national and local museums, the finder, the landowner, etc. The Treasure Valuation Committee may be called in to determine the value of the find, should a museum desire to purchase it. It is only when a museum is not interested in purchasing the ‘treasure’, or unable to do so, that the finder may retain it, and do with it as they please.

20 posted on 10/31/2019 12:30:20 PM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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