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Humans and Neandertals likely interbred in Middle East
Science ^ | 28 January 2015 | Michael Balter

Posted on 01/29/2015 1:26:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv

The discovery of a 55,000-year-old partial skull of a modern human in an Israeli cave, the first sighting of Homo sapiens in this time and place, offers skeletal evidence to support the idea that Neandertals and moderns mated in the Middle East between 50,000 and 60,000 years ago. What's more, the skull could belong to an ancestor of the modern humans who later swept across Europe and Asia and replaced the Neandertals.

The find supports a raft of recent genetic studies. A 2010 analysis, for example, found that up to 2% of the genomes of today's Europeans and Asians consist of Neandertal DNA, a clear sign of at least limited interbreeding in the past. Two years later, scientists compared ancient DNA extracted from Neandertal fossils to that of contemporary modern human populations around the world, concluding that this interbreeding took place in the Middle East, most likely between 47,000 and 65,000 years ago. And last year, a 45,000-year-old modern human found in Siberia, the oldest modern to have its genome sequenced, was revealed to have harbored a little more than 2% Neandertal DNA, allowing researchers to refine the interbreeding event to roughly 50,000 to 60,000 years ago.

From the Neandertal side, this time and place make sense. That's because numerous skeletons dated to that time period have been found in caves in Israel and other parts of the Middle East over the years, and Neandertals were still living in the region as late as 49,000 years ago. Yet the other side of this mating partnership has been conspicuously absent from the fossil record of the Middle East: Although modern humans from Africa appear to have ventured into some of these same caves as early as 120,000 years ago, none have been found after about 80,000 years.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: evolution; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; letshavejerusalem; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals
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Clara Amit/Israel Antiquities Authority --The owner of this 55,000-year-old partial skull may have been ready for romance with Neandertals.

Clara Amit/Israel Antiquities Authority --The owner of this 55,000-year-old partial skull may have been ready for romance with Neandertals.

1 posted on 01/29/2015 1:26:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

in local libraries
"Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]

2 posted on 01/29/2015 1:27:03 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

bs


3 posted on 01/29/2015 1:28:12 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: SunkenCiv

The headline made me think it was a story of how muzlims came to be.


4 posted on 01/29/2015 1:28:25 PM PST by DaveA37
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To: SunkenCiv

M.E. Muslims are still trying to interbreed with farm animals.


5 posted on 01/29/2015 1:28:41 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: SunkenCiv

No further proof needed to say, conclusively, “ Michael Moore was adopted”!


6 posted on 01/29/2015 1:30:54 PM PST by GOYAKLA (Leftist women are such a damned embarrassment...)
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To: nikos1121

This was debunked two weeks ago!!!!!!!!!!!!


7 posted on 01/29/2015 1:31:30 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yep. Explains the existence of muzzies.


8 posted on 01/29/2015 1:31:56 PM PST by bluejean (The lunatics are running the asylum)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“M.E. Muslims are still trying to interbreed with farm animals.”

Well, some animals are ruled “unclean”. so they’re at least working on reducing the practice...


9 posted on 01/29/2015 1:32:09 PM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: SunkenCiv

Pointless; they inbreeding now.


10 posted on 01/29/2015 1:32:26 PM PST by PeteePie (Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: SunkenCiv

Neanderthal chicks are easy.


11 posted on 01/29/2015 1:32:32 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: miss marmelstein

How so?


12 posted on 01/29/2015 1:33:23 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: central_va

They’re not the kind you would want to bring home, though.


13 posted on 01/29/2015 1:34:05 PM PST by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Humans and Neandertals likely interbred in Middle East probably in one of those Beirut casinos, probably Casino Du Liban.

What Happens in Beirut Stays in Beirut, well, at least for 60,000 years, anyway.


14 posted on 01/29/2015 1:35:08 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (re (`("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")))
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To: Pikachu_Dad
It was all over FR and the newspapers that the German scientist who determined that humans and Neanderthals lived at the same time and bred, made it all up with false data.
15 posted on 01/29/2015 1:37:20 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“Humans and Neandertals likely interbred in Middle East”

Thus the origin of the idea that females were only to be used as “breeding stock”, and not as a help meet for the founding of home and family.

A concept widely embraced by the world of Islam. The entire female gender is given short shrift, being deemed a very inferior sort of human being.


16 posted on 01/29/2015 1:38:02 PM PST by alloysteel (Je suis Charlie)
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To: bunkerhill7

LOL!

And that would be a good place to look, the name Beirut means “the wells”, as in fresh water.


17 posted on 01/29/2015 1:38:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: miss marmelstein
There are not enough neanderthal caucuses to account for 2% of ones DNA form 50,000 years ago. 2% of my dna comes form more like 5 generations ago rather than 1000 generations ago. Non scientific goofs sure believe in anything.
18 posted on 01/29/2015 1:39:10 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Humans and Neandertals did interbred that is how we got Democrats like Reed.
19 posted on 01/29/2015 1:40:00 PM PST by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: mountainlion

Oh, this is way over my head! But I do know that this story has been debunked.


20 posted on 01/29/2015 1:40:08 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: Loyalty Binds Me)
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