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Astronomers are Predicting at Least Two More Large Planets in the Solar System
universetoday.com ^ | on January 15, 2015 | Nancy Atkinson

Posted on 01/15/2015 3:45:27 PM PST by BenLurkin

In their studies, the team analyzed the effects of what is called the ‘Kozai mechanism,’ which is related to the gravitational perturbation that a large body exerts on the orbit of another much smaller and further away object. They looked at how the highly eccentric comet 96P/Machholz1 is influenced by Jupiter (it will come near the orbit of Mercury in 2017, but it travels as much as 6 AU at aphelion) and it may “provide the key to explain the puzzling clustering of orbits around argument of perihelion close to 0° recently found for the population of ETNOs,” the team wrote in one of their papers.

They also looked at the dwarf planet discovered last year called 2012 VP113 in the Oort cloud (its closest approach to the Sun is about 80 astronomical units) and how some researchers say it appears its orbit might be influenced by the possible presence of a dark and icy super-Earth, up to ten times larger than our planet.

“This Sedna-like object has the most distant perihelion of any known minor planet and the value of its argument of perihelion is close to 0°,” the team writes in their second paper. “This property appears to be shared by almost all known asteroids with semimajor axis greater than 150 au and perihelion greater than 30 au (the extreme trans-Neptunian objects or ETNOs), and this fact has been interpreted as evidence for the existence of a super-Earth at 250 au. In this scenario, a population of stable asteroids may be shepherded by a distant, undiscovered planet larger than the Earth that keeps the value of their argument of perihelion librating around 0° as a result of the Kozai mechanism.”

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: 2012vp113; 96pmachholz1; astronomy; catastrophism; christophmordasini; comet; cometfocusing; cometfocussing; danielwhitmire; deusexmachina; estherlinder; etno; eugenechiang; jkonstantinbatygin; johnmatese; jupiter; kbo; konstantinbatygin; kozaimechanism; kuiperbelt; kuipercliff; mercury; mikebrown; nemesis; oortcloud; planet9; pluto; science; tno; tyche; uranus; xplanets
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To: muir_redwoods

wow. That would be some distance.


21 posted on 01/15/2015 4:00:59 PM PST by GeronL
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To: cripplecreek

Bump!


22 posted on 01/15/2015 4:01:53 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Dr. Thorne
Uh oh. Nibiru.

Where's Quix? This is right up his alley.

23 posted on 01/15/2015 4:02:34 PM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Back in my day, one sailed West to reach the Orient with no land in between. Thankfully, someone tried it.


24 posted on 01/15/2015 4:03:18 PM PST by centurion316
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To: GeronL
The Oort cloud is still theorhetical but likely and possibly believed to extend nearly half way to Alpha Centauri.

The definitions of what is and isn't in our solar system is kind of open to interpretation. In my interpretation, anything under the gravitational influence of our sun is within the solar system.


25 posted on 01/15/2015 4:04:18 PM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Don W

Nice recipe, here is another; http://almashriq.hiof.no/general/600/640/641/khayat/vegetable-dishes/mahshi-warak-areesh.html


26 posted on 01/15/2015 4:07:23 PM PST by Fungi
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To: cripplecreek

All this talk of more planets is very “perturbing” to me.


27 posted on 01/15/2015 4:08:24 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: BenLurkin

Unless it’s going to be the Tropical Planet of Naked Women I’m not much interested.


28 posted on 01/15/2015 4:10:24 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: cripplecreek

Sedna looks just about far enough away to send the Islamics there...


29 posted on 01/15/2015 4:11:26 PM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..)
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To: cripplecreek

Perhaps more likely is that our Sun is part of a binary star system.


30 posted on 01/15/2015 4:13:36 PM PST by Zuse (I am disrupted! I am offended! I am insulted! I am outraged!)
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To: Fungi
What is the “Dolmadakia?”

About ten bucks at Trader Joe's.

31 posted on 01/15/2015 4:13:46 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: PLMerite

LOL!


32 posted on 01/15/2015 4:14:56 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: BenLurkin
They looked at how the highly eccentric comet 96P/Machholz1 is influenced by Jupiter (it will come near the orbit of Mercury in 2017, but it travels as much as 6 AU at aphelion) and it may “provide the key to explain the puzzling clustering of orbits around argument of perihelion close to 0° recently found for the population of ETNOs,”

Whoa, what a coincidence! Me and my homies was discussing that very subject during half time of the Packers game Sunday.......

33 posted on 01/15/2015 4:15:40 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I'm a man of no-color and proud of it.)
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To: Zuse

Its possible since most stars are binary. There could be a red or brown dwarf out there that we haven’t spotted yet.


34 posted on 01/15/2015 4:16:17 PM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: BenLurkin

35 posted on 01/15/2015 4:17:16 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: centurion316; All; PLMerite

Danggit! If they find more planets, I'll have to have my tatt updated! (No 'Uranus' jokes, PLEASE!)

36 posted on 01/15/2015 4:17:31 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: JennysCool

Don’t like the canned stuff. Sadaf label is about three bucks at ethnic stores; fair but homemade is infinetely better.


37 posted on 01/15/2015 4:17:33 PM PST by Fungi
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

A lot of those look like....growths......


38 posted on 01/15/2015 4:18:41 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: GeronL

If they orbit within the Oort cloud, they are between 5,000 and 100,000 times farther away from the sun than we are. That makes the orbital period, very roughly, something like 5,000 to 100,000 years.


39 posted on 01/15/2015 4:20:57 PM PST by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Another reminder of why it’s so important to demand that anyone that you are considering interacting with for anything beyond a cup of coffee must strip down to the buff so that you can examine whatever tattoos they may have emblazoned on their body.


40 posted on 01/15/2015 4:31:02 PM PST by centurion316
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