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Conditions in Nelson's navy uncovered by scientists
Telegraph ^ | Saturday, September 3, 2011 | Nick Collins

Posted on 09/03/2011 7:14:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Sailors in Admiral Nelson's navy were plagued by scurvy, ridden with syphilis and often mutilated by amputations but only a minority were from lowest social class, Oxford University archaeologists have found.

An examination of 340 skeletons from three 18th and 19th century Royal Navy graveyards found that a "surprisingly high" proportion suffered from scurvy and infected wounds.

The bones, excavated from sites in Greenwich, Gosport and Plymouth, also found that more than six per cent of sailors in Nelson's navy, were amputees, many of whom died as a result of operations that went wrong.

But despite uncovering evidence of syphilis, ulcers, serious tooth infections and possible malaria among the remains of the seamen, researchers said evidence indicated that only a minority came from the lowest rung of the social ladder.

The unprecedented scientific investigation into life below decks for Nelson's men, by researchers from Oxford and Cranfield Universities, will be broadcast tomorrow evening (SUN) in a Channel Four documentary, Nelson's Navy: Back From the Dead.

Individuals examined by the scientists included an 11-year-old boy who may have been a "powder monkey" transporting ammunition to gunners and a "top man" who worked at the top of the masts and most likely died by falling from the rigging during a battle.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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More than six per cent of sailors in Nelson's navy, were amputees, many of whom died as a result of operations that went wrong Photo: ALAMY

More than six per cent of sailors in Nelson's navy, were amputees, many of whom died as a result of operations that went wrong Photo: ALAMY

1 posted on 09/03/2011 7:14:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


2 posted on 09/03/2011 7:15:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Nelson was an amputee.


3 posted on 09/03/2011 7:18:52 PM PDT by doggieboy
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To: SunkenCiv

bump ya scurvy cag!

:p


4 posted on 09/03/2011 7:24:07 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: SunkenCiv
During the run-up to the anniversary of Trafalgar one is reminded that it is still possible to tour HMS Victory, Nelson's flagship at Trafalgar, still commissioned in service to the Royal Navy and serving as a museum. A tour of the ship is a fascinating experience and it makes plain the extreme hardship endured by the crew of the ship standing blockade off the French coast in all weather and in all seas.

The ship was unheated save for one cook stove so it is no surprise that respiratory diseases were rampant among the crew and I would think that it was a far more debilitating cause of casualties than battle with the French or battle against the French disease (syphilis). Once impregnated with salt, the crew's clothes simply never got dry.

As one descends the decks he sees that the headroom shrinks at each level and probably explains why young boys were used as "powder monkeys", described in the article, because they could run at full speed without ducking to retrieve shot and powder from below during battle.

I recommend a visit To HMS Victory to anyone who has the opportunity.


5 posted on 09/03/2011 7:37:50 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: SunkenCiv
Okay...what funny guy added "lesseroftwoweevils" to the key word list??


6 posted on 09/03/2011 7:38:57 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Perry 2012! A Conservative who can win!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Rum, sodomy and the lash.


7 posted on 09/03/2011 7:42:08 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (O-blame-r)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’ll be the first man to admit I could have NEVER made it as a sailor back in those days. Tough bastards all.


8 posted on 09/03/2011 7:42:31 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead])
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To: nathanbedford

I haven’t toured HMS Victory, but seeing Old Ironsides made much the same impression. Can’t imagine living like that, especially sending kids to sea. Sailors must have been short.


9 posted on 09/03/2011 7:44:09 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: SunkenCiv

They thought they had scurvy, but then discovered they were just british.

10 posted on 09/03/2011 7:44:57 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: SunkenCiv

Maybe the lower class sailors that were pressed into service were buried at sea?


11 posted on 09/03/2011 7:47:49 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: Artemis Webb

To the weevil!


12 posted on 09/03/2011 7:48:25 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Snickering Hound

*snort*


13 posted on 09/03/2011 7:56:10 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: nathanbedford

didn’t they also use women as “power monkeys” and who knows what else?


14 posted on 09/03/2011 7:58:47 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: SunkenCiv

Just doesn’t seem proper to disturb “Royal Navy Graveyards” for such..... Sort of like digging up veterans at Arlington two hundred years from now isn’t it ?


15 posted on 09/03/2011 8:00:02 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Firstly you must always implicitly obey orders, without attempting to form any opinion of your own regarding their propriety. Secondly, you must consider every man your enemy who speaks ill of your king; and thirdly you must hate a Frenchman as you hate the devil.”

Vice Admiral of the White The Right Honourable Horatio, Viscount Nelson, Knight of the Most Honourable Order of the Bath, Baron Nelson, of the Nile and of Burnham Thorpe in the County of Norfolk, Baron Nelson, of the Nile and of Hillborough in the County of Norfolk, Duke of Bronte in the nobility of the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies, Knight of the Grand Cross of the Order of St Ferdinand and of Merit and a Knight of the Ottoman Empire’s Order of the Crescent,Knight Grand Commander of the Order of St Joachim, Colonel of the Marines, Freeman of Norwich, Bath, Yarmouth, London, Salisbury and Exeter.


16 posted on 09/03/2011 8:00:08 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Obama got mostly Ds and Fs all through college and law school. Keep saying it.....)
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To: Artemis Webb
Which it aint a problem to be asayin it!...




P. Killick
17 posted on 09/03/2011 8:02:57 PM PDT by 45semi (If Islamicists possessed anthrax, do you doubt that they would have used it on us?)
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To: Overtaxed
The HMS Weevil?
18 posted on 09/03/2011 8:04:35 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Free Vulcan
I'll be the first to say, I would never have gotten on any of those ship to sail to the new world. Never

Send me a post card. (but I'm glad some of mine did)

In fact to go further, I would not have gone WEST, lol. That mode of transportation (wagons),is not for me. (but again glad they did)

19 posted on 09/03/2011 8:14:47 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: GeronL

Always choose the lesser of two weevils.


20 posted on 09/03/2011 8:16:57 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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