STEPHANOPOULOS: That was Bill Clinton after Dukakis's loss in '88. BRAZILE: That was Bill Clinton after Walter Mondale lost, after Jimmy Carter lost. We had a dynamic governor who was reform minded, who took those reform issues and brought them into the national forefront. He really helped recharge the Democratic Party. But, you know, the Republican Party is out to lunch. I watched CPAC Charl -- I mean Karl. (LAUGHTER) BRAZILE: Charles was a former friend. ROVE: I thought I was a current friend. BRAZILE: But you're always a friend, but you owe me some chili. ROVE: But you owe...