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“The strategic retreat from Severodonetsk, Zolote and Gorsky could have been three weeks ago“

Yep, and if they had. competent military minded men at the top they would have retreated weeks ago, in order, and taken all their men and material with them.

The whole “lions led by donkeys” quote keeps coming to mind.

It still amazes me how much ammo modern war can chew through daily. I wish I could post pics, those old WWI pics where there is literal mountains of empty arty casings after a pre attack bombardment. Very impressive the amount fired and that human beings on the receiving end were able to withstand such volume.

“An orderly withdraw may have been possible a week ago - not any more.“

Honestly therr is no sound military reason for them to have stayed. Whomever is running the Ukrainian army is an abject moron.

At the end of the video reporter says “around 10 civilians were evacuated”. Only 10 people took the Ukrainians up on their offer to evacuate….. seems like that would be the headline.

We do know this… whomever is running the war on the Ukrainian side is an abject moron. Slowly being encircled, yet they do nothing.

I have heard many reports of the Ukrainian generals asking to pull back from Lysychans’k a week or so ago and were told no. Even though tactically it was the right thing to do. Now it is too late.

Quite simply there is no way Ukraine wins with its current tactical leadership.

DPA is good, but check out military summary channel if you get the chance. Good straight fwd map analysis and the guy is from Belarus so town pronunciation is correct….half the time with DPA I cannot understand what town he is talking about.

Please note that military summary is a bit of a homer (belarus after all) so the bulk of analysis is from the attacker perspective, but he does delve into what the defenders should think about doing to counter.

Another nice feature is that he uses both the west map as well as the russian map, and has recently started including google earth so you can see terrain features that come into play for attackers/defenders.

“What is it with Ukraine’s refusal to engage in a tactical retreat. Sometimes it’s over, gotta pullback and regroup.“

I have wondered the same thing, its almost as if every one of their armies are the 6th army to them.

Either those running the tactical operations are abject fools, or they are not allowed to do the prudent thing. I have heard more than one rumor where commanders have asked to fall back and were told no.

Military summary channel you linked is hands down the best daily analysis of this war.

You bet

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCUnc496-PPmFZVKlYxUnToA

Military summary channel is another sitrep like DPA. The guy running this one is from Belarus, so you get good proper pronunciation of town names ect. Lately he has been working in google earth to show the topography of the fighting areas. You get to see where the Ukrainians are on high ground ect, which helps better understand the ongoing conflict.

“parents shouldn’t go into a building where there’s a active shooting situation going on.“

Said another way, you are for agents of the state, deciding when and under what circumstances, parents are “allowed” to protect their children.

Duly noted.

If the police are going to be cowards during situations like this, and all arrows point to they are cowards, then they need to get the hell out of parents way, and let us handle it. Guarantee parents could stop these shooters quicker than any police force has thus far.

Military summary is what I watch as well. Very good analysis and he does one every day. Yesterday he used google earth as well, which is great for seeing terrain features and such. I highly recommend that channel.

What is now abundantly clear is that citizen parents need to ban together and deal with these situations themselves. It is a sad state when those same parents will have to fight their way through the police in order to get in and protect their children.

For all officers, either get in there when you arrive, or GET OUT OF OUR WAY.

“If the LEO isnt man enough to risk his life, take off the best and gun and hand it to someone who is.“

Hear, hear!

“So you think that mother should have been allowed to go inside? Really?“

And you think that mother does NOT have the God given right to try to save her child? Who are the police to stand between parents and their ability to protect their children in any and all ways possible?

No, you are wrong, dead wrong. If the police are not going to go in IMMEDIATELY, then they must stand down and allow those with enough heart go in.

Same with us, especially when we were old enough to drive. My high school parking lot was full of trucks with gun racks. Shotguns during bird season, deer rifles during deer season, and a .22 most other times of the year for varmit hunting.

Let me start by saying I have no dog in this fight, but I have been watching the maps closely, as we are seeing old fashion war on a micro scale.

Yesterday the Ukrainians retreated along pretty much the entire eastern and southern fronts. Now if you have a home team in this fight, and it is the Ukes, then it looks fairly bad. But in all honesty, they needed to do this days ago imho. They were slowly being surrounded, and it was time to pull back and regroup. So while it may sound bad for the Ukes, it is actually some of the first wise moves I have seen from them tactically.

As for Russia losing? Hard to say that, as with a smaller force, they have managed to outmaneuver the Ukes and force a withdrawal.

To get a clear picture, without all the MSM spin, one must watch both the wests map and the russians map. They are really close in nature with one or the other being maybe a day or so behind.

Now that it looks like the Ukes are starting to understand how to correctly operate (retreat is not necessarily a bad thing in war) then they may finally be able to set up a strong position. We shall see as time goes on. But those are the facts on the ground as of yesterday as near as I can tell.

“The situation in the Donbas cauldron is getting worse, the Ukes should pull a Dunkirk and get the heck out of there. Zelenskyy’s idea of leaving them there to grind down the Ruskies is crazy.“

They are slowly being encircled and cut off. I honestly cannot believe they have not pulled out, tactically they probably should have done so this week latest. I did hear rumors that Ukrainian military officials did ask to pull back but were told no. I cannot confirm that, but it makes perfect sense.

While standing and defending every square inch of territory is indeed noble, tactically it is a mistake. Once that caldron closes, and the war goes on, the Ukrainians are going to wish they still had those forces.

Certainly not going to help the inflation. And as for handouts, we outta stop them all, and had the lunatics running this country not shut everything down over covid……well we would be in a lot better place I submit.

We are seeing shortages all over the country, but apparently there are no paper or ink shortages at those dollar bill printing presses 😀