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Russia releasing "vintage" tanks to fight in Ukraine
Hot Air ^ | October 13, 2022 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 10/13/2022 10:57:18 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

Despite all of his public bluster, is it possible that Vladimir Putin is getting just a bit desperate in his bid to find some sort of path to something he could call a “victory” in Ukraine? One hint could be found in the fact that he twisted Lukashenko’s arm to pull Belarus into the fighting at this late stage of the game. But another indicator of Russia’s military reaching the bottom of the barrel popped up this week. Yesterday, Tyler Rogoway from The War Zone sent out this alert on social media. It seems that Russia is “modernizing” some of their “vintage” T-62 tanks and taking them out of museum status so they can be sent to replace some of the hundreds of armored units that Ukrainian farmers have towed away for their own army to use.

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To be clear, the T-62 was hailed in its day as a top-rate, heavily armored Main Battle Tank (MBT) in the Soviet military when it debuted. Unfortunately, “its day” was literally in 1961. That was more than sixty years ago and military technology has moved on considerably, with lighter, faster tanks employing modernized shielding being the weapons of choice today.

As Trevithick points out, these T-62s are literally antiques. The rockets that the west has been supplying Russia with this year have been destroying Russia’s more modern T-80s and T-90s with abandon. One recent estimate claims that Putin has lost more than 40% of his operational tank fleet.

If the Ukrainians have been able to wipe out that many modern tanks, how well do you think these “vintage” tanks will fare?

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There is also a question of who will be operating these ancient tanks when they head toward the Ukraine border.

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TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: 5hill4democrats; europe; gaseousexcretions; globalistpropaganda; hotgas; jazzisaclown; jazzshaw; jazzshawisaclown; nato; russia; snekbot; thesnekbot; thetimbot; timbot; ukraine; wemissallahpundit
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But hey, all those "partially mobilized" old Soviet Red Army vets ought to be able to operate those museum relics, right?


1 posted on 10/13/2022 10:57:18 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

Insanity. The EU is arming its Ukrainian mercenaries with the most modern weapons available. Russia can’t win.


2 posted on 10/13/2022 11:02:55 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Timber Rattler
The rockets that the west has been supplying Russia with this year ???????..............
3 posted on 10/13/2022 11:04:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Timber Rattler; BenLurkin

Tanks, no matter whose, no matter what technology, are obsolete in today’s warfare................


4 posted on 10/13/2022 11:06:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: BenLurkin

What I find interesting is the inability to change tactics. Tanks are being slaughtered by inexpensive, easy to operate weapons. It’s not just Putin and his generals. It seems historically common. Like calvary or infantry charges against machine guns in WW I. Keep using failed tactics until you run out of cannon fodder.


5 posted on 10/13/2022 11:07:30 AM PDT by sjmjax
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To: Red Badger

I’m guessing English isn’t the primary language?


6 posted on 10/13/2022 11:07:36 AM PDT by thescourged1
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To: Red Badger

Gee I was hoping I could buy on on E bay cheap.


7 posted on 10/13/2022 11:07:56 AM PDT by oldasrocks
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To: Red Badger

No there’re not.


8 posted on 10/13/2022 11:08:14 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: oldasrocks

I don’t have anywhere to put it.


9 posted on 10/13/2022 11:09:43 AM PDT by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: Timber Rattler

To be used by the LNR/DNR as assault guns or death traps which ever comes first.

OTOH: 800 refurbished Belarusian T-72s go to regular troops.


10 posted on 10/13/2022 11:09:45 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Timber Rattler

I’ve driven a T-62. They can’t be that old ;-)


11 posted on 10/13/2022 11:10:39 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Timber Rattler

I hope more and more Russians question serving the increasingly deranged Putin.


12 posted on 10/13/2022 11:12:55 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Timber Rattler

I expected this. “If the Ukrainians have been able to wipe out that many modern tanks, how well do you think these “vintage” tanks will fare?” is a good question, but another question FOR ME is “if modern defenses are useless for the modern tanks, would the neo-Soviets pause to use ordinary tanks?”

There’s something to be said for sheer numerical superiority.


13 posted on 10/13/2022 11:12:56 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Timber Rattler
Lots of entrepreneurial opportunities for Ivan once the troops get these...


14 posted on 10/13/2022 11:17:02 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: BenLurkin
Insanity. The EU is arming its Ukrainian mercenaries with the most modern weapons available. Russia can’t win.

The insanity is it will now take a $178,000 Javelin missile to knock out a $10,000 museum piece.

15 posted on 10/13/2022 11:17:19 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: dangus

The invaders had numerical superiority when they started this back in February.


16 posted on 10/13/2022 11:18:12 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: wally_bert

There’s a place in Brevard Coounty Florida where you can rent a tank by the hour and drive it around an enclosed area. IIRC, for an additional $1,500 you can even crush a car with it.


17 posted on 10/13/2022 11:18:26 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: Timber Rattler

No KV-1s yet?

How about T-28?


18 posted on 10/13/2022 11:19:20 AM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: Yo-Yo
Hyper-Sonic Missles! Game changer! They made Putin REALLY mad with his bridge getting dinged! Come to the negotiating table...WWIII is on the line!

Did I miss anything?

19 posted on 10/13/2022 11:20:13 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: Magnum44

Well, yeah...

The good news for Putin is that Russian tanks have been critical in battlefield success in Ukraine.

The bad news is that they were being driven by Ukrainian forces. LOL!


20 posted on 10/13/2022 11:21:14 AM PDT by dangus
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