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  • Mormon/LDS Youth iPhone App & Expanded Website

    04/03/2011 1:44:41 PM PDT · 104 of 143
    Paragon Defender to ejonesie22; All

    Wow not your standard retort but one even better!

    Nazis?


    The shoe fits.

  • Joseph Smith Is Tarred and Feathered [LDS lesson in children's class ages 8-11]

    04/03/2011 1:42:35 PM PDT · 199 of 629
    Paragon Defender to greyfoxx39; All
    Seekers of truth,

    If you peruse the Free Republic religion forums you will notice a pattern. There's an anti-Mormon group of people here that spends a great deal of their time attacking the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. They post regurgitated propaganda on an almost daily basis.

    They have a misguided obsession. You can witness many different tactics employed that you might find quite interesting. The straw man argument is a big favorite and is frequently preceded by cherry-picking quotes or other material. After the "quotation" the attacker will misrepresent what has been said or what was meant and then attack their own interpretation.Later they will have the audacity to claim they were "only" quoting our own material.  

    They will of course insist ad nauseum that they are merely using our sources and are therefore innocent of any deceptive practice. LDS persons have no issue whatsoever having our scriptures or leaders quoted as long as it is presented fairly and accurately. This is rarely (if ever) done.

    Another favorite is posting scripture or statements which on their own really present no dilemma. They make something out of nothing while never bringing up a single objection that hasn't been addressed a hundred times before.

    You might note a couple of other tactics used to try to antagonize is the use of disrespectful or insulting terms or language and/or pictures. That's a Christlike thing to do right? Yeah I don't think so either. It does speak volumes about them though.

    Some of them claim being some sort of special witness to you as being supposedly former Mormons. So someone who is an ex-member of any organization would never have an axe to grind or have reason to try to justify their actions by any means? Perhaps not but perhaps so. The LDS Church gains members from other denominations as well as others faiths all the time. This doesn't make them an expert on anything and you certainly won't hear them attacking their former Church.

    Frequently they cruise the headlines of the day seeking any story that might be twisted into making the Church look bad. Anything will do, just watch the progression of posts following it and see what I mean.

    After reading their posts, I invite you to seek the truth about whatever "issue" they seem to be "revealing" or "exposing". I promise that if you do so with honest intent, the "ahah" moments you will have will be many and frequent. You will start to recognize the tactics employed to cleverly twist and attack and will likely chuckle the more you see. In actuality, there's nothing new here. It's all been addressed many times before.

    The latest twist in the anti-Mormon propaganda machine is to actually go to the links provided, but then they cherry pick what they want, quote and straw man attack that. Almost without fail you will see examples of this following this post.

    Clever. It almost appears that they are helping you out by doing some footwork for you. Not so much. Don't be insulted, look for yourself. It's not the haystack they want you to think. So again, seek the truth. They aren't providing it. Use your God-given brain and discernment.

    Here's a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. I have found that the vast majority of the "issues" brought up can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ but here's more:

    http://scriptures.lds.org/
    http://www.lds.org
    http://www.fairlds.org/
    http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
    http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
    http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
    http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
    http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
    http://promormon.blogspot.com/

    Now you will likely notice the "you never address or answer our points" posts pop up as usual. All after providing the answers just as you have here.

    Sometimes it is claimed that these sites present a needle in a haystack. Far from it. But if you give up before you try you won't know will you? They often state that these sites provide no answer. They just don't want you looking. It is as simple as that.

    Will you wear blinders too? Seek truth. Find out for yourself. Want to chat with someone on any topic? A few of these sites provide just that. So do your homework sincere seeker of truth. Listen and read from both "sides". Make up your own mind.

    I witness to you of these truths and wish you the best, in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.

     

  • MORMON LYING

    04/03/2011 1:40:10 PM PDT · 28 of 91
    Paragon Defender to delacoert; All
    Seekers of truth,

    If you peruse the Free Republic religion forums you will notice a pattern. There's an anti-Mormon group of people here that spends a great deal of their time attacking the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. They post regurgitated propaganda on an almost daily basis.

    They have a misguided obsession. You can witness many different tactics employed that you might find quite interesting. The straw man argument is a big favorite and is frequently preceded by cherry-picking quotes or other material. After the "quotation" the attacker will misrepresent what has been said or what was meant and then attack their own interpretation.Later they will have the audacity to claim they were "only" quoting our own material.  

    They will of course insist ad nauseum that they are merely using our sources and are therefore innocent of any deceptive practice. LDS persons have no issue whatsoever having our scriptures or leaders quoted as long as it is presented fairly and accurately. This is rarely (if ever) done.

    Another favorite is posting scripture or statements which on their own really present no dilemma. They make something out of nothing while never bringing up a single objection that hasn't been addressed a hundred times before.

    You might note a couple of other tactics used to try to antagonize is the use of disrespectful or insulting terms or language and/or pictures. That's a Christlike thing to do right? Yeah I don't think so either. It does speak volumes about them though.

    Some of them claim being some sort of special witness to you as being supposedly former Mormons. So someone who is an ex-member of any organization would never have an axe to grind or have reason to try to justify their actions by any means? Perhaps not but perhaps so. The LDS Church gains members from other denominations as well as others faiths all the time. This doesn't make them an expert on anything and you certainly won't hear them attacking their former Church.

    Frequently they cruise the headlines of the day seeking any story that might be twisted into making the Church look bad. Anything will do, just watch the progression of posts following it and see what I mean.

    After reading their posts, I invite you to seek the truth about whatever "issue" they seem to be "revealing" or "exposing". I promise that if you do so with honest intent, the "ahah" moments you will have will be many and frequent. You will start to recognize the tactics employed to cleverly twist and attack and will likely chuckle the more you see. In actuality, there's nothing new here. It's all been addressed many times before.

    The latest twist in the anti-Mormon propaganda machine is to actually go to the links provided, but then they cherry pick what they want, quote and straw man attack that. Almost without fail you will see examples of this following this post.

    Clever. It almost appears that they are helping you out by doing some footwork for you. Not so much. Don't be insulted, look for yourself. It's not the haystack they want you to think. So again, seek the truth. They aren't providing it. Use your God-given brain and discernment.

    Here's a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. I have found that the vast majority of the "issues" brought up can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ but here's more:

    http://scriptures.lds.org/
    http://www.lds.org
    http://www.fairlds.org/
    http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
    http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
    http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
    http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
    http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
    http://promormon.blogspot.com/

    Now you will likely notice the "you never address or answer our points" posts pop up as usual. All after providing the answers just as you have here.

    Sometimes it is claimed that these sites present a needle in a haystack. Far from it. But if you give up before you try you won't know will you? They often state that these sites provide no answer. They just don't want you looking. It is as simple as that.

    Will you wear blinders too? Seek truth. Find out for yourself. Want to chat with someone on any topic? A few of these sites provide just that. So do your homework sincere seeker of truth. Listen and read from both "sides". Make up your own mind.

    I witness to you of these truths and wish you the best, in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.

     

  • LDS General Conference 181st noon EST

    04/03/2011 1:36:16 PM PDT · 4 of 5
    Paragon Defender to restornu

    Watching now! Been watching all weekend. It’s been an exceptional conference!

  • Mormon/LDS Youth iPhone App & Expanded Website

    04/03/2011 7:02:48 AM PDT · 99 of 143
    Paragon Defender to ejonesie22; All

    As we have now seen here with 3 LDS posters, the new tactic is to run folks into the gauntlet of Mormon doctrine and emotions, away from focused discussions of the uncomfortable facts.


    lol is that your new twist on what is happening here? It’s always entertaining seeing what is next in the bag of tricks of the LDS Church attackers.


    Of course how long such a transparent and weak tactic can keep going is any ones guess. I do know just from the increase in Non LDS participation in these threads, the folks with honest question who are attacked as “anti’s” with in a couple of post when they don’t play along with you guys, that the tactic is doing wonders for exposing the empty hand of the LDS here.


    bahaha and the show goes on. Watching the stage where the anti’s put on their propaganda show is still especially entertaining when you understand what is really going on. It’s similar to watching Nazi Germany skits portraying the Jews as something they certainly were not.

  • Mormon/LDS Youth iPhone App & Expanded Website

    04/02/2011 9:09:03 PM PDT · 90 of 143
    Paragon Defender to CommerceComet; Pachelbel

    lol Still trying to make people think there’s a wild goose chase involved.

    Responding with sources to the truth, easily found for any sincere seeker is perfect in my opinion. It’s many ready answers ready and waiting and helps weed out the fight-picking, blinder wearing anti-Mormons from the true seekers of truth.

    Methinks thou doth protest too much.

    Have a great night!

  • Mormon/LDS Youth iPhone App & Expanded Website

    04/01/2011 7:25:30 PM PDT · 34 of 143
    Paragon Defender to AppyPappy

    Not that I agree with you but I am always glad to see you hanging in there. There aren’t many who can hold that testimony.


    Hello Pappy! Well I am glad we can disagree and be civil to one another (unlike some people we know). I disagree that many can’t hold on to their testimony. Millions do. Nice meeting you!

  • Video: Joseph Smith, prophet of the restoration (REAL Mormon / LDS)

    04/01/2011 5:06:30 PM PDT · 68 of 124
    Paragon Defender to republicanbred

    Thanks for posting!! I think we will watch it Monday night for Family Home Evening, since this weekend we will be too busy being “indoctrinated” by the General Authorities (as others on this website would call it!) at General Conference. Can’t wait to hear the words of our Prophet!!


    You are welcome! We also look forward to it!

  • Mormon/LDS Youth iPhone App & Expanded Website

    04/01/2011 5:00:50 PM PDT · 27 of 143
    Paragon Defender to svcw

    Show where I called you a liar.


    Ok you have me fooled on this one. I don’t get your angle. April fools joke? You can’t be serious so I’m going to go with that.

  • Mormon/LDS Youth iPhone App & Expanded Website

    04/01/2011 2:28:34 PM PDT · 19 of 143
    Paragon Defender to svcw

    Puleeze. You lecturing anyone on blasphemy, spam or lying is laughable. Well... you might not quite get that what you say is untrue so technically you may not be lying. Calling me a liar for example. Completely false. Spout your pompous propaganda to someone else anti.

  • Video: Joseph Smith, prophet of the restoration (REAL Mormon / LDS)

    04/01/2011 1:00:05 PM PDT · 53 of 124
    Paragon Defender to Emperor Palpatine

    Excuse me, I happen to be Roman Catholic.


    Great! I love Roman Catholics. Unfortunately you are also part of the anti-Mormon cult that dwells on this board and spouts regurgitated propaganda.

  • Mormon/LDS Youth iPhone App & Expanded Website

    04/01/2011 12:54:32 PM PDT · 9 of 143
    Paragon Defender to greyfoxx39

    Awesome news!

    I’ll be sure that all of our youth know about it.

    You rock!

  • Video: Joseph Smith, prophet of the restoration (REAL Mormon / LDS)

    04/01/2011 11:32:34 AM PDT · 49 of 124
    Paragon Defender to Emperor Palpatine

    Do you Mormon cultists ever think for yourselves, or do you immediately respond with links to your vile propaganda?

    A trained monkey can do as much.


    Bahahaha one of the up and coming big posters of vile propaganda calls me out? Too much.

    Sorry to break it to you friend but you are the unthinking cult member.

  • Video: Joseph Smith, prophet of the restoration (REAL Mormon / LDS)

    04/01/2011 8:08:37 AM PDT · 21 of 124
    Paragon Defender to Jack Hydrazine

    When the title of the thread has in parenthesis “(Real Mormon/LDS)” what is that supposed to mean?

    Are there fake Mormons or fake LDS?

    Is this a Mormon/LDS only thread?


    Hello there. All LDS threads I create now are open season to all attackers if you choose to do so. The “caucus” designation was shown to be sometimes ineffectual anyway.

    The “REAL” designation is my attempt to convey the message that their have been some threads that may have conveyed the message that they were posted by LDS persons when they were not. that’s all.

  • Video: Joseph Smith, prophet of the restoration (REAL Mormon / LDS)

    04/01/2011 8:03:05 AM PDT · 16 of 124
    Paragon Defender to svcw

    Aaah SVCW... king of the Strawman Attackers Gang (SAG)today it would seem...

    Do you expect people to believe that we worship Joseph Smith? It takes very little effort to learn otherwise.

    You need to look here. You are being misled as is obvious by your worn out propaganda.

    Here’s a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. I have found that the vast majority of the “issues” brought up in the anti-Mormon propaganda can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ but here’s more:

    http://scriptures.lds.org/
    http://www.lds.org
    http://www.fairlds.org/
    http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
    http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
    http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
    http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
    http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
    http://promormon.blogspot.com/

  • Video: Joseph Smith, prophet of the restoration (REAL Mormon / LDS)

    04/01/2011 7:38:01 AM PDT · 1 of 124
    Paragon Defender
    A film for friends, lurkers and even the LDS attackers.

    I hope you enjoy!

  • Proof is in the eye of the beholder (REAL Mormon / LDS)

    04/01/2011 7:33:17 AM PDT · 23 of 26
    Paragon Defender to SZonian; D-fendr

    What do you think the word EVIDENCE means?


    I know what it means. It seems that you have a narrow definition though. Perhaps you should look it up. I won’t even give you a link though as I am pretty sure you can handle it all on your own.

    Have a great and less narrow day!

  • Proof is in the eye of the beholder (REAL Mormon / LDS)

    04/01/2011 6:08:29 AM PDT · 20 of 26
    Paragon Defender to D-fendr

    The events of the BOM are huge. Huge civilizations, wars, animals, crops, armor, events. But there is no evidence of them ever having existed


    Sure there is. Not conclusive as of yet but yes there is. You should look such things on the links I provided for information.

  • Joseph Smith's successful and unsuccessful proposals to church leaders' wives (Mormon)

    03/31/2011 5:39:06 PM PDT · 29 of 43
    Paragon Defender to Buddygirl

    Sorry but you have it backwards and are a good example of what happens when you listen to the wrong people. You are being blinded by those who are calling good evil and evil good. I hope you figure it out soon.

  • Proof is in the eye of the beholder (REAL Mormon / LDS)

    03/31/2011 5:32:47 PM PDT · 1 of 26
    Paragon Defender
    Part one. This is the predecessor to the last article I posted and is mentioned within it. Sorry for the order confusion.