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Firing Mueller is NOT an option.

Oh yes it is, and it could be exactly where we're headed, since it's one of the few if not only weapons Trump has left to fire.

No it is not. Do you want him impeached? Its a trap. Anyone with a brain can see it. If you want him to walk into it like Mr. Magoo then who's side are you on? Stop sweating the Russia hoax and the special counsel.

Ain't got time for the Sessions thing now, maybe later or tomorrow. Don't think this thread is appropriate, do you?

Wilde asked the president’s daughter, 36, to use her White House influence to advocate for a “CLEAN Dream Act”

Wouldn't it be awesome if "Acts" ( laws ) were just drawn up by the President. Oh wait, that's how we got here.

If Ms. Wilde thinks the President can whip up a clean dream act, does that mean she thinks its okay if he whips up a clean deportation act?

Anybody know this brainless bimbo's twitter handle?

At least 155 people were killed and more than 120 wounded in a bombing and shooting attack against worshipers at a mosque in the northern Sinai after Friday prayers.

Three tiered plan: bombing, shoot the fleeing survivors, shoot the first responders.

Well, el Sisi in charge, Trump and Saudi backing, means one thing ... Some Heads are Gonna Roll ... literally

Agreed, this is hysterical.

Things will become positively epic when Trump does respond.

P.S. LMAO at "Some idiot", well played.

Bingo. Exactly right. You beat me to it. See below #63 ( I think )

“Too late. You need to resign.”

Naa...please STAY RIGHT THERE, Mr. Franken. As long as you’re there, Roy Moore has a clear path to the Senate. After the election in 19 days, then yes, let’s dump him!

Heck no, we gotta start playing for keeps. Franken must stay there as long as possible. I posted this earlier ...

There is zero tactical advantage to removing him or having him resign. The leftist Governor will just appoint another, worse ( new and as yet untarnished ) leftist in his place. Probably a female, maybe a Muslim, someone they consider untouchable. Net gain ZERO, at best a wash but possibly a further loss to our current situation.

There is zero strategic advantage as well. Franken's seat isn't up for full-term election until 2020. There is more to be gained by having that rotten dirtbag still in place until then, as the face of the (D)ummycrat party and making that seat truly gainable during Trump's re-election campaign. If they appoint a replacement or have a special election, that new person becomes the incumbent. With Franken on the ballot ( pray! ), there will be many down-ticket voters showing up just to get rid of him, perhaps enough to flip Minnesota to Trump since it was extraordinarily close last time.

Remember Bob Packwood sticking around and becoming the face of the then-hapless (R)epublicrats, even made it into popular culture like Married With Children and the like. That seat still fell to the enemy despite the otherwise successful Gingrich revolutionary juggernaut. ( And yeah I know what he did was nothing compared to Kennedy/Dodd/Biden and all the other corrupt (D)ummies ).

Point is, if he leaves now, the (D)ummycrats are way better off, not us. The longer that Franken and Conyers stick around the more mileage we get dirtying up the left. In short, today is too soon for them to leave because they get to pick replacements and flush them down the memory hole in the short attention span minds of most sheeple. C'mon folks, we gotta play hardball!

You jack ass ...

That's your mulligan, hope you enjoyed it. Next time I ping the mods and Jim. Play nice with your fellow Freepers or pay the price.

I said you are clogging up the comment self-search, that is true. Post it to yourself or ALL and we still see it, capiche?

I'm not interested in your Russian Derangement Syndrome, that's between you and your shrink. But I still read some of your posts in the thread regardless, though you're making me think twice with your smart-ass reply.

Behave son.

firing Mueller is the last option, not a primary strategy.

Firing Mueller is NOT an option.

You either understand this and accept it or you are really hoping he gets impeached and removed. That sound like a NeverTrumper to me. Why not just fess up?

ETL, can you PLEASE post the gigantic canned spam to either yourself ETL or ALL rather than specifically to my handle? Pretty please?

You know full well that it clogs up the comment self-search page! Seriously, I can only imagine what yours must look like! Holy God.

>>> I like our current situation.

It could be a good situation, if there weren't so many backstabbers in the key positions of power, such as McConnell, Ryan, Roberts, and Sessions. But since they do hold so much power right now, in our Constitutional republic, unfortunately little can be trusted or assumed to go the way conservatives desire.

Well Turtle and Ryan are not backstabbers, they are front-stabbers, we knew this since forever. Roberts you're absolutely correct since he backstabbed the Constitution and should be tried for treason. Jeff Sessions? Naturally you are as incorrect as in the other thread. But since you are not even vaguely aware of the AG job description how can you not be? Hint, "backstab" is the clue you need to consider. But we're way off-topic in a Flynn thread.

>>> It is far more than we were all expecting two years ago battling the crybabies back then.

Sorry but I don't believe that's true either. There was a strong sense of hope brewing in the air as Obozo's final term was ending, and Congressional elections had been swinging our way. I supported the outsiders Cruz and Trump, in that order, and believed if we were one year into either of their terms we'd be further along than we are right now.

Brewing in some minds maybe, but folks that have been around knew better. We were and still are facing annihilation from demographics plus the totality of a united Enemedia and both halves of the uniparty. A little nudge from President Hillary with Amnesty and TX, AZ,and some other states flip "blue" ( and the anti-Sessions kooks want to expedite this by removing the only person down there besides Trump who gives a damn ) and TX alone means annihilation, no sense even running a candidate. Anyone not understanding demographics and the electoral map were always in fantasyland IMHO.

No offense, but if you supported Cruz or any of the others that is evidence you really don't get the electoral map at all ( not to mention Article II Section 1, but we'll skip that for today :-). Before Trump came along in June 2015, this thing was over before it started, President Hillary, full stop. Anyone actually thinking any of the 16 dwarfs could get more than 1 of the 12 swing states ( let alone the 8 that Trump got ) well, they were just engaging in wishful thinking. I dissected this in explicit detail here over and over at the time.

When I said "far more than we were expecting" I was describing the Scalia pick, some action on the lower courts, and cracking the trade problem, definite items Trump would get to. We had strong *hope* that the neocon deep state would be challenged as promised, I thought it would be a hard slog with Flynn breaking them down from the inside, but I never imagined they would expose themselves like turkeys laying their heads on butcher blocks.

>>> If Trump plays this perfectly, the District Of Criminals will never be the same.

Like most of the other happy go luckies here, you're forgetting Trump isn't King, ...

"Happy go luckies?" I have no idea who your talking about, or even why your posting this part to me. Looks like you're posting boilerplate meant for some mindless Trump cheerleader. That sure ain't me, LOL. Go to CTH for that. There are plenty. And you'll fit right in with the Sessions bashers.

As above, "If Trump Plays this right" means one single thing ... the seditious coup attempt using the Russia hoax and all related activities ... it means Trump turning it around to destroy the enemy cabal. This was not anticipated by anyone, I doubt even Trump himself. So, I'm more hopeful *now* since they have wildly overplayed their hand. That is all. He has been given a mighty weapon indeed and they are worried, and should be.

Flynn
Manafort,
Russia
"Putin won't stop at Crimea"
"Russia's aggression against Ukraine."

You're trying awfully hard to derail the thread and inject the deep state neocon Kristol, McCain, Jebbie, Rubio and countless others' fantasies into the discussion! Wow!

No sane person is buying this crap. Leave Russia alone 'mkay? The wall fell, Christianity is rebounding, Communism relocated to the (D)ummycrat party. Thank your lucky stars that Gorbachev didn't hang on to collaborate with all the other globalists around the world. Then we would be in a real pickle.

Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I [RummyChick] really do not understand what you are saying.

Good luck with that LoL.

Yeah, right!

What they ( probably not RummyChick ) really are complaining about is Obstruction of Deep State or Obstruction of Business as Usual and nothing more. And they will pull every rabbit out of their hat to prove it.

The Russian Hoax rabbit was the greatest trick yet, and will hopefully be the fuel that burns them to the ground.

I like our current situation. It is far more than we were all expecting two years ago battling the crybabies back then. If Trump plays this perfectly, the District Of Criminals will never be the same.

All of you claiming that president hillary Clinton can fire an fbi director no matter the circumstances and face no repercussions just amaze me.

Ummm, no problem with that whatsoever. I would practically expect nothing less, including all the US Attorneys like they did do. Then I would expect the spineless Congress to take a dive for things like Ruby Ridge and Waco, like they did do. It is a lawless government indeed.

But restoring lawful order certainly does not mean becoming more unlawful by denying the President, including Hillary ability to fire their employees. Knowing her, she would not just fire FBI director, but her sycophants would threaten and bribe ( and kill ) witnesses. That is where you bust them, not this fiction of obstruction and unconstitutional attempt at limiting the President.

This is what the corrupt 'radical Republican' Congress did to Andrew Johnson, almost exactly with the Tenure Of Office Act and almost removed him. The crass attempt was damaging to the President and later determined invalid by the Supreme Court in a similar case. Listen carefully, there is no possible restriction, no debate, on the President firing the FBI director.

So the enemy is thereby reduced to saying yeah he can fire him but it smells like obstruction to me, which goes nowhere in law, and dies in the House, especially now as the dead bodies pile high from sex scandals.

But like nixon...he may get nailed on the cover up..in this case..obstruction

The scandal was about the coverup, true, but not his potential impeachment, at least we can never be sure. Remember, when Goldwater and the others visited him the supposedly said 'certain impeachment' so he should resign. I'm not so sure that they would go there and suggest he resign if it was so certain, and I highly doubt 67 Senators in 1974 would convict him, maybe 1977 yes. Nixon just won the 3rd biggest landslide ever, massive, coast to coast, and there would have been a big bloody fight and lots of collateral damage to Congress for that coup which was conveniently avoided by his resignation and pardon. Don't read wikipedia which just parrots the Washington Compost tidy little bow-wrapped story about his support vanishing. It was inside-the-beltway groupthink then and still is today.

I remember Nixon voters becoming very angry over this coup. I guarantee you that if a tougher guy than Ford had ran in 1976 then Carter would have been beaten ( surprisingly Ford narrowly lost ) but then again, we would not have gotten Reagan in four years later had 1976 not given us Carter. In other words, the so-called 'vanishing support' would have shown up in spades and delivered payback. Looking back, I believe the pardon was solely to tamp down the cries of coup and to restore regular order in the District Of Criminals. This is why so many of us called Nixon a coward for resigning rather than fighting the communist (D)ummycrats. The damage he did was enormous in empowering the enemy. But he had terrible advisers, primarily no-one to stop him from believing a coverup was remotely a good idea.

Point is, many people are repeating the exact same beltway groupthink they did then. They really have no clue down there what we think of them. And the New York Slimes and Washington Compost makes sure that they remain in the dark. If you are not a troll ( c'mon, you gotta admit these posts of yours sure look that way ) then you are probably someone just paranoid and supremely worried they will pull another Nixon coup. It is surely mathematically possible given the (D)ummie plus (R)ino herds grazing the swamp, and Trump's base is surely in less proportion than Nixon's was, however, don't take the wrong lesson from Nixon up front from the Enemedia. We'll simply never know if he could have survived, and his voters sure as hell believed it at the time.

Trump is likely the smartest person in that office yet, and most streetwise, and he was tight with Roy Cohn which means he knows all about Tailgunner Joe and the domestic enemy and Enemedia cabal who took him down, and he knows Roger Stone and others who are well acquainted with the silent coup. All these lessons are known to him. Stop worrying, or stop trolling. They won't get him on this fantasy. Now if he fires Mueller or defies the stupid Ninth Circus rulings, then all bets are off. But those carefully planned traps are freakin obvious to anyone with a brain.

There are plenty if lawyers who disagree with you. You can find them with google

Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I really do not understand what you are saying.

Are you saying some lawyer disagrees with any of these? Which one? ...

• Trump *can* fire the FBI director
• Pending investigations do not terminate with his release.
• He is not the investigator nor does it rely on his presence.
• Sessions and Rosenstein recommended it

You must be talking about something else, perhaps hypotheticals involving a crazy special prosecutor, district attorney, indictments, impeachment, etc. Because no lawyer can possibly challenge those primary facts.

Sure, a crazy person can do unpredictable things and make a fuss like the left always does. But that is what they always do. And the sun will rise tomorrow regardless. Stop gaslighting yourself and others over the "obstruction" nonsense. These are legal illiterates tossing that word around. Maybe we should invent our own: obstruction of the presidency.

Ironically all the gaslighting itself is: obstruction of sane discussion. But if moderators clamped down on it I guess it would take the fun out of beating up the gaslighters or something. ;-)

That is your BELIEF. Some lawyers agree with you...others dont

Most of the lawyers I know agree with me....but not all.

I gave you facts, here they are again ...

• Trump *can* fire the FBI director
• Pending investigations do not terminate with his release.
• He is not the investigator nor does it rely on his presence.
• Sessions and Rosenstein recommended it

My beliefs do not enter here at all. But here is one thing I do believe ... you need new lawyers.

Mueller is out of control. He needs to be fired if the blanket pardon doesnt work!

What you're doing right there is promoting the enemy's last hope. And I've seen a few of you 'round the net pushing this. It won't get you anywhere of course, except it gaslights otherwise sensible people into lashing out at stupid distractions. Thank God there is no-one in the White House dumb enough to promote this idea.

Trump terminating the DoJ special counsel is the exact trap they want him to stumble into. It is so obvious that even Stevie Wonder could see it. It is the 2nd act of their "brilliant" plan ( Comey copped to the 1st act with the admission of plotting to getting a SC appointed ). But he's got Jay Sekulow and Don McGahn at his disposal to help stay clear of these idiotic attempts at seditious overthrow via elaborate schemes.

You remind me of a primary gaslighter at CTH. So what do you think about the Ninth Circus Drew? Should Trump defy and ignore the TRO's over the travel bans? Yay or Nay?

If Muller is 'the fixer' then why did he threaten Flynns with the dealth penalty?

Who says he did?

~crickets~

Google "Flynn Death Penalty" only points to one that I see: https://patribotics.blog/.../exclusive-sources-general-flynn-wept-as-he-asked- fbi-to-spare-mike-flynn-jr/.

Even the New York Slimes doesn't show up yet with that dribble. So what's your story? Keeping us informed on the whackobirds or just gaslighting for effect?

Trump can be guilty of obstruction in the firing of comey..is he..I dont know

No, not only *can* he fire the FBI director, it is starkly obvious that any pending investigation does not terminate with his release. He is not the investigator nor does it rely on his presence. So there is no legal case for obstruction. Besides, did you miss the Sessions and Rosenstein recommendations? That was further CYA no doubt demanded from White House counsel before firing his ass.

Now, can a ham sandwich be made from these ingredients? Possibly since this *is* the District Of Criminals whose residents voted 95% for Shillary. But that is another can of worms since it is accepted that you cannot indict a President and even if you could, that would be squashed by DoJ since it is their job to protect the government from all enemies, foreign and domestic, and even the President and Congress.

Furthermore, in an impeachment case where the Chief Justice presides, my guess is that even a putz like Roberts would do whatever was in his power to short circuit the circus.

President Trump is certainly not acting like someone worried for his job, I just cannot figure out why so many of his supporters insist on gaslighting each other in handwringing group therapy sessions.

"here what the deep state blogs have got. (so we can work against the deluge that is coming) cliffs notes style ..."

Oh for the love of God. How can you possibly read that crap and post it here. Are you just trying to keep us informed of enemy activity or gaslighting for effect? That dribble is posted on the left to lift their poor spirits up. To keep them from laying down their arms and surrendering en masse.

What the deep state cabal is trying to do is manage Flynn, keep him from detonating the IC and their entire universe in a big bang. Between him and Binney, plus Assange/Greenwald/Snowden and many others they are in serious trouble, too much toothpaste all over the place to squeeze back into the tube.

There is a reason the (D)ummies and (R)inos did not let Flynn testify live on TV in front of Congress. The last time they had a unmanageable patriot standing there, swearing to tell the whole truth, he mowed them down with a figurative machine gun. They are trying to manage Mike Flynn and make him go away as quietly as they can. From what I have seen of him and his son, I don't think it is remotely possible. And "turning on Trump". ROTFLMFAO!

He will no doubt cut some "deal" but that deal will be to his liking. One that does not prevent him from spilling what he knows about his tenure during the DingleBarry and earlier eras. Flynn likely has information on Mueller as well as the entire IC since DIA interfaces with FBI often, and this surely includes the whole Uranium issue.

Never forget there is no love lost between the uniformed IC and the political civies. We cannot be sure where Mueller fits in the scheme of things, but he is nowhere near as radical as Brennan and Clapper and the civilian hacks. My guess is he is the 'fixer' trying to salvage the deep state IC from being turned inside out, from ripping the Pentagon and Fort Meade away from Langley. In short, doing whatever he can to keep Flynn from 'taking down the government' ( that is their view, they believe they are the permanent government ). So Flynn will cop to some process crimes, but will not go away. His challenge is to avoid signing anything that limits his ability to talk. I don't think the bad guys have a chance any longer. They surrendered on the JFK files, their attacks on the emperor failed, the party is over and now they want to prevent another Church committee from sending them to prison.

The perps did the unthinkable. They spied on a Presidential candidate and President-Elect and his family and associates. All American citizens mostly on US soil. And, they manufactured lies to do it. This unbelievable crime runs right to the very top of the government in a way that exceeds a '24' episode. This simple and inarguable fact is what the enemy wakes up to every morning and goes to sleep with every night. They are extremely worried. And they should be because they do not control the outcome.