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Well, call it what you will, but it seems my suspicions were well-founded. :-(

Look, I don’t think anybody’s against a man going out where he wants to without asking his wife’s permission first, I certainly wouldn’t prevent my husband from doing that. But to completely leave town for a whole week including a holiday weekend most men spend with their kids (especially sons), without telling her where he’s going, or even leaving her with contact information in case one of his children may have an emergency? I’m sorry, that’s really a red flag for a marriage in trouble.

And in fact, that’s exactly what it turned out to be.

Sometimes, you don’t really need a degree in psychology at all... just a little common sense.

It’s too bad though, I was hoping to be wrong about this one.

I don’t think Miss Behave was saying men should never go off on their own. Of course, men need their alone time and they don’t need to be second-guessed about it. Since I trust my husband to be faithful to me, I don’t need him to tell me every little place he goes. That would be really neurotic.

Still, I do find it a little strange that he would choose to do this on Father’s Day of all days, leaving his boys with their mother on a day that they’re supposed to be male-bonding with their dad. Sure, every day should be Father’s Day in a way, but every day is Christ’s day too and it would still be weird if somebody skipped out on his family on Christmas, don’t you think?

Oh well, maybe he just isn’t a holiday kind of guy. But I’m hoping that it turns out he is doing something important that requires secrecy like visiting Iraq. And I’m REALLY hoping he isn’t just having an affair because we sure don’t need any more of that.

Really, even if it was not another soldier he cheated with? I didn’t know the military was so strict. I’ll stand corrected.

Anyway, I really can’t defend Ensign for it too much, what he did was really wrong. It just seems like making him quit his job over it is extreme. But I do wish we could find more politicians who are upstanding people in their personal lives AND also good advocates for the country. Ensign has been a good conservative senator from all accounts but he’s not a good role model.

Well, I think that’s appropriate. But I hope he doesn’t really have to leave the Senate completely over this. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a serious thing and my respect for him has gone down, but he shouldn’t have to quit his job over it. We wouldn’t ask a soldier or police officer who committed adultery to quit his job, so why a politician.

Would I vote for him now? It depends who else was running I guess. The system makes us choose between two, usually, and there are some worse things out there than adultery. All else being equal I’d prefer a senator who has good family values but I’d still rather have a cheater than someone who is in favor of abortion or something.

Sorry, when I was a kid, that was the normal word we used. No offense was meant by it. Honestly I think people get too worked up about silly things like using PC language these days. No matter whether you call them “special needs babies” or “retarded babies” they have the same right to life, their parents love and the society’s respect as any other child.

I don’t see anything damaging about it exactly. “Teenage girl makes an error in judgment.” Hardly an unusual headline there! And I think that the reactions of the Palin family reflect very well on them. You can tell Sarah and her husband are good parents because their daughter trusted them to tell them the truth and ask for help. And the girl’s boyfriend is also being responsible and marrying her. So yes, the teenagers made a mistake but everyone involved is making the best of the situation and there’s nothing damaging about that.

I do have to say that if Sarah was my friend, though, and I knew she could afford it, I would advise her to quit her job. Now she has a retarded baby and a pregnant teenage daughter who will both need her help, as well as two other daughters who need a mother’s guidance. That is an awful lot to handle at the same time as a demanding full time job. I kind of hope she stays on as VP because I am afraid that McCain would pick some stupid RINO instead of another young conservative like her, but I have to admit that I feel a little conflicted about hoping for an outcome that I really think is worse for her family. But will it make me less likely to vote for her, NO WAY!

Well, that’s too bad the daughter did that, but I don’t think it says anything bad about Sarah Palin. The daughter is 17 and sometimes 17-year-olds will do something stupid like premarital sex. It doesn’t necessarily mean her parents are bad parents. The teenager and her boyfriend are getting married now and I hope they will turn things around and have a good life together. I don’t think we ought to throw stones.

Yes, it’s just that unfortunately, McCain has a history of bending to his liberal colleagues on things. So, I hope that the conservative support he gets is much louder than the liberal support, so that he has the motivation to carry our water instead of theirs, that’s all. If he gets it in his head that ex-Hillary supporters are his major constituency we’re in for a tough four years.

This is the stupidest “smear” I have ever heard of before. First, because it is so obviously and provably false, but second, because even if it WERE true, it would not make Palin look bad anyway! Adopting her disabled grandchild would be a responsible act, no matter whether her daughter had behaved stupidly or was a victim, it still would be a good deed on Palin’s part so why would anyone care about this. Good grief.

Well... I don’t know about this. I mean I think Palin was a great choice, but should I really be excited that McCain appeals to liberal lesbians? Maybe your neighbor likes his positions on global warming and immigration. I’ll be happier about a surge in support from conservatives and moderates than one from liberals. I don’t want McCain to feel any more beholden to them than he already does!

how does one know what a dead body smells like? She was a nurse. She probably knew. Grandma may just be in denial now or she may be lying to help her daughter. I hope it's the former. I could understand why a woman might want to believe her granddaughter is still alive even against all odds, especially if the alternative is believing her own daughter may be a murderer. I hope that's all it is with her.

Yeah it could have been an accident, possibly even an innocent one, but if so she should have called the police immediately and told the truth right away! Innocent people don’t tell so many lies for no reason. I think at best, she must have been negligent in the death.

Wow, what a ridiculous thing to attack her about. Palin’s mother is alive, probably she will come and help look after the baby, just like millions of other grandmothers do.

I wouldn’t have blamed Palin if she said “no thanks” because she was so busy with her family, but if she and her family have decided they can make it work then why not? Many working women do a good job raising their children.

Ok! I’m behind that. Much better than Ridge or Lieberman.

I don’t like this about Pawlenty, but I guess I can live with it. At least the man is pro-life, unlike some of the VPs McCain was considering. I seriously don’t think I could vote for him if he picked Ridge or Lieberman or Hutchison. I can vote for McCain-Pawlenty even though they’re far from perfect. They are better than the alternative. I can’t say I’ll be thrilled if they win though. It’s going to be a long four years either way I’m afraid.

The most depressing thing is that there were 100 witnesses— 100 men who were not taking part in the rape and NONE of them had the moral courage to stop the rapists. 100 men! Any rapist in the world would back off if 100 men started crowding around and threatening him.

What a useless group of people. None of them deserve to be allowed in as immigrants if they won’t even help this girl when there are *100* of them standing around. They’re not fit to be citizens of anywhere.

Really, you think they used to let boys fight and roughhouse in school in the old days? I think they used to strap boys who acted like that in school. Boys were expected to be respectful and obedient to their teachers and parents and it never stopped them from being masculine or tough in the past. They had time to play sports, horse around with their friends, go hunting with their dads, etc and still do their chores and say “Yes sir.” Boys still have time for all those things today (assuming they have good parents.)

I think letting children run around doing whatever they want all the time is more of a problem in our society than expecting them to behave themselves in school. When you read stories about pioneer life those boys were expected to work hard and do what they were told and they sure grew up to be manly enough. So I really doubt if that’s the problem.

I think it’s natural for kids, especially boys to play fighting games, but I don’t think it’s necessarily bad for teachers to restrict that kind of thing at school. Boys can get pretty wild when they’re playing cops and robbers or ninjas or whatever, and it makes it harder for them to pay attention. They’re not allowed to play fighting games at Sunday school either. It’s mostly so they’ll pay attention to the lessons IMHO.

Unfortunately she probably is dead and gone, but with a mother so unstable, she could also have sold the child to a pedophile or left her in a park or something and there’s a chance she might still be rescued. It seems slim, but it is human nature to clutch at slim chances. If they find the body, we will see if Grandma continues trying to defend her daughter or drops her like a rock, I guess. I hope they will find her alive and find someone to give her a better life, but I have to agree it seems pretty doubtful at this point.

Maybe, but I thought it was interesting that the grandmother was the one who called the police and got her daughter arrested in the first place, and only started defending her and making up stupid stories about stale pizza later after the trail seemed to be cold. Maybe she’s trying to coax her daughter into thinking she’s on her side. I might do that if I had a daughter I thought was a sociopath and feared for my granddaughter’s life.

Or maybe grandma is a psycho too, I guess these things do run in families sometimes. Sad story.