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Hmm. Not a good scenario for American's seeing as we are a trillion dollars in debt.

Until of course our government leaders change the rules and make walking across the border legal (past a present). Soon to occur based on the strong protest from the new American voice.

As I have already shown you - via the Pearse report that what you state as fact is nothing more than Michaels WORD.

I have done nothing of the sort. The truth of the matter is that in many states in the USA when you live with a person for a certain amount of time you are considered married. He just happened to live in Fl where that is not the case. So legally he was not a bigamist in Fl. I said that. I said in "essense" he was, as defined in many other states in America. I have made nothing up.

The falling out occurred after Michael got the money and decided to stop treating Terri. Now why is it you don't find that timing very odd.

Because the man had 2 woman - he was married to one and in a common law marriage to another. In most states that is considered bigamy. The fact that he lived in Fl. saved him from actually being legally defined as a bigamist. But in essence that is what he was.

I guess you think Terri did not deserve a husband who was faithful to her or maybe you think it is ok for men to have two woman. Most woman would not want their husbands living with another woman. Terri did not deserve any less.

I don't see how it takes away from his credibility.

I suspect you never will. The guy had no morals, no sense of right and wrong. Lying comes easy to people with no morals.

That is a perfect example of how Greer's court chose to take MS's side and declare it truth/fact. If you read the original transcripts of the Pearse report, you will see that it was MS's word vs the Shindlers word.

http://www.miami.edu/ethics2/schiavo/122998%20Schiavo%20Richard%20Pearse%20GAL%20report.pdf

Specifically on page 4: "In February, 1993, the ward's husband and her parents had a falling out. Mr SCHIAVO claim the argument arose because he refused to share the settlement money with the SCHINDLERS. They on the other hand, claim that Mr. SCIAVO failed to honor commitments he had previously made to continue to seek aggressive treatment for the ward's condition.. The SHINDLERS retained counsel and sought Mr. SCHIAVO's removal as guardian, but were ultimately unsuccessful."

Another piece of evidence which clearly shows the Greer court took MS's side even when the Pearse report said it was just his word vs their word. The bottom line is that you were not there and I was not there, it was his word against theirs. For no reason whatsoever the court decided to take his word over the parents and declare it a fact.

Yes, of all the people involved I say he is most to blame. He was the only person that could have prevented the travesty. He never once acted on Terri's behalf as he was required to do. He never should have allowed MS to use her money for his legal fees. That was a the first of many obvious things he did that proved that he was biased.

According to the Schindlers that is what happened. I know you don't believe them, you prefer to believe a cheating, adulterous husband.

I don't believe in bigamy.Maybe you think Terri did not deserve any better than a cheating husband. A person who lives with another woman while married to his wife is a low life. Somehow or other I do not think that would have been Terri's wish either. He lost all credibility once he started living with Jodi. In order to be believed one has to have credibility.

My premise, however, is based on the judge's order. He was there. He saw and heard the actual testimony from all those concerned. He heard the cross examination. He came away with "clear and convincing" evidence as to Terri's wishes.

Well now I get it - if Judge Greer says it is so well then it is so. I forgot Judge Greer walks on water for people like you.

Anyone can say they will do something if A occurs, when they know A will never occur. It is PR, I call a spade a spade when I see it. I suspect it would be very easy to beat you at poker.

A person who cheats on their wife has a low threshold of doing things that are above board. One of the things that are high on the list of requiring a person to be above board is not lying. Since Michael has demonstrated his ability to cheat it is not a very big stretch to extend it to his ability to lie. So to base your premise on his ability to tell the truth is faulty.

Actually, Michael and her family got along quite well. Until they insisted on half of his $300K loss of consortium award and he refused. Then they started treating Michael like crap. Was that Terri's wish? Did she tell her parents to make Michael's life miserable by constantly taking him to court?

They got along well until Michael decided to stop treating Terri and put a DNR on her and started the process to have her killed. It was MS who took the action to destroy the comradeship with the parents. He knew very well that his decision to end her life would be impossible for her parents to take. In that very first act - he showed his true colors that he did not care about Terri or her family.

Oh yes - the famous - "I will give all the money to charity if only you let me kill her" crap. Too bad people like you are so easily fooled by such publicity tactics. That was nothing more than PR since he knew full well that Terri's parent would never go along with it. Let that one rest, it's not a substantial point.

What makes you say that he wanted it all? What did he say or do to make you believe that? Anything? Or is this just more speculation and gossip?

If I recall you asked me what was my opinion, and that is what I gave you. I already said it matters not the reason why he did what he did - it only matters that he did NOT do it for Terri. Therefore any reason he had for doing what he did were self serving and not acceptable.

One who would not put up with a man refusing to marry her because he was bound to another woman.

Perhaps a "woman like Jodi" is the kind of woman who respects a man trying to honor his wife's wish.

Sorry that just does not pan out, especially when she has little kids to think about. One would have to presume that Michael and Jodi both placed Terri's wishes above their own and their children's. They must have angel status in your book.

What's my premise? Do you even know? Michael Schiavo could eat babies and it wouldn't affect my premise one iota.

Well, from what I have read of your posts you believe MS and support the premise that he loved Terri and wanted to carry out her wishes.

By the way I am really curious to know when do you think Terri told MS that she wanted him to treat her family like crap? For sure that must have been one of her wishes as well.

In my opinion he did it because he wanted the rest of the money. $300.000 wasn't enough for him. He wanted it all. As the years went by the money got spent on legal fees, but he was too far along to retreat, without looking like a fool and a liar.

That's your starting premise, not mine.

It would have been much easier for Michael to have walked away in 1994 with his $300K and his new girlfriend. Much easier.

That adds to my argument that in order for him to have stayed and stuck it out for as many years as he did there had to be a reason. A woman like Jodi would not put up with being with MS if his only reason was for his love of Terri.

Like all the other Terri-bots on this thread, you've got nothing but rumor, gossip, innuendo, character assassination, speculation, "unanswered questions", conspiracies -- everything but FACTS.

Don't pat yourself to hard on the back - since your entire premise is based on your belief in a man who cheated on his wife.

Jodi and MS are cohorts. They are both cut from the same mold, each of them need to watch their backs. Jodi is and never was an innocent bystander.

To get to the truth in this case one need only know that he did not do it out of love for Terry. What else is there to have to know? All other reason's are about him and his needs and therefore not acceptable.

I told you, Jodi would have never put up with MS for 10 years standing in the wings waiting for MS to fight a battle with another woman's parents, to carry out another woman's wishes, especially if it was all out of love for the other woman. The motive therefore can not be love for Terri. So what is left? Something that had to be mutually beneficial to both Michael and Jodi. No one knows but Michael and Jodi and the family that surrounds them.

But note: the only way that one could justify what MS did is if he really truly did it out of love for Terri. Since that is not possible given that there was another love of his life in the picture - the motive becomes a selfish one, based on his needs and his desires.

That is a very good question. If you drill down and really try to answer this question you may come to the truth. But first you must remove your adoration state of mind towards MS, and consider that he did not go through the 10 plus years of fighting Terri's parents out of love for Terri. Jodi would never have put up with that crap from him.