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Terri Schiavo's former husband marries
cnn ^ | 1-22-06

Posted on 01/22/2006 11:35:40 AM PST by LouAvul

SAFETY HARBOR, Florida (AP) -- Terri Schiavo's former husband has married his longtime girlfriend, friends and family members say.

Michael Schiavo and his longtime girlfriend, Jodi Centonze, were wed Saturday at a church in Florida. The bride's brother says it was a very emotional ceremony.

Schiavo's former wife, Terri, had suffered severe brain damage more than a decade ago and died last March after her feeding tube was removed.

Michael Schiavo had argued his wife was in a vegetative state, and would not want to be kept alive artificially.

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The newlyweds first met in a dentist's office and began a relationship after Terri Schiavo was already in a nursing home. They have two young children.

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To: silverleaf
"Nevertheless, her transfer took place out of nursing care and into a hospice. To die."

Yep. She was transferred right after Judge Greer ordered the feeding tube removed. Did you expect her to live without the surgically implanted feeding tube?

"So Felos arranged to transfer the cost of caring for Terri to the taxpayers."

The hospice provided Terri's care for free.

401 posted on 01/23/2006 12:12:11 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Shalom Israel
"you opine that the preponderance of evidence supports Mr. Schiavo's contention"

Actually, Judge Greer ruled that he was presented with "clear and convincing" evidence as to Terri's wishes, your opinion to the contrary.

"I did use the word "kill", which is literally true: he sought, and won, a court order to terminate her life."

Incorrect. He sought a court hearing to determine Terri's wishes. The court, not Michael, made that determination. Terr's wishes were then honored by the court, and artificial life support was removed, allowing her to die, not killing her.

Hey, if you insist on using incorrect and inflammatory words like "kill", you should just go all the way and say "murder". What the heck.

402 posted on 01/23/2006 12:25:55 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

Sweetheart, you deliberately ignored my points regarding Michael and Terri. People like the Schindlers don't go around raiding their disabled child's medical trust funds. Unfortunately I personally know those kind of people. The Schindlers do not fit that profile. They used their last available cash to help Terri and also their son in law Michael.

Keep reading Robert, and hopefully you will become enlightened. Btw, have you read about Scott Thomas, and Haleigh Poutre? Just come on down to the Terri dailies for January. Where there is life, there is hope : )


403 posted on 01/23/2006 12:27:25 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("The Less You Have...The More They'll Take"- bf)
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To: Halls
"Giving someone food is life support?"

If it is via a surgically implanted feeding tube because the patient is unable to swallow, yes.

404 posted on 01/23/2006 12:28:28 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Actually, Judge Greer ruled that he was presented with "clear and convincing" evidence as to Terri's wishes, your opinion to the contrary.

Correct. And just as we can discuss the weight of Mr. Schiavo's testimony, in light of conflicting testimony--including some given under oath by Mr. Schiavo himself, so also we have the privilege of discussing Judge Greer's reasoning and conduct of this trial, and his record on past trials. The result does not inspire confidence in his ruling.

Incorrect. He sought a court hearing to determine Terri's wishes.

He did not. He made a claim concerning her wishes, in support of a motion to withhold food and water from his wife. The motion was to kill Terri, not to try and find out her wishes--which he claimed to know already.

Hey, if you insist on using incorrect and inflammatory words like "kill",

Kill. Verb. Cause to die. If simple, accurate language causes you pain, you should re-examine your position.

405 posted on 01/23/2006 12:29:17 PM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: oolatec

No, anyone saying that they are "acting in his wife's best interest" while living with another women is a lowlife. Anyone who goes to court to get his wife starved to death is a lowlife.


406 posted on 01/23/2006 12:29:50 PM PST by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: robertpaulsen
If it is via a surgically implanted feeding tube because the patient is unable to swallow, yes.

And, of course, the order forbidding any attempt to provide nourishment P.O. was also about withholding "medical" measures?

407 posted on 01/23/2006 12:30:42 PM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: robertpaulsen

Oh please, so feeding someone who is unconscious but very much alive is life support? Sorry, that is letting them starve to death!


408 posted on 01/23/2006 12:33:15 PM PST by Halls (Dallas County, Texas, but my heart is in East Texas!)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
"What I do understand is that Terri had caregivers who said that she ..."

Geez. And I understand there's some guy from Kansas who said he saw a flying saucer. So?

They may indeed believe what they saw. But do you believe they saw what they saw? If not, then what's your point? If so, then why? Because you want to believe them?

We know she couldn't swallow. We know she couldn't "enjoy" squat -- not without a cerebral cortex. So why do you believe them?

409 posted on 01/23/2006 12:40:35 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Shalom Israel
"except other self-serving testimony."

Self serving? How was Scott Schiavo's testimony self-serving? How was Joan Schiavo's testimony self-serving?

Wait! I got it! They were all in it together for the life insurance policy worth millions. Uh ... the hidden gold! The stocks! Yes, the millions in stocks!

In 1994, Michael had his $300K. The rest went into a trust fund for Terri's care. He had all the money he was ever going to get. Terri's parents offered to care for her. He could have walked. He didn't.

Instead, he conspired with his brother and his sister-in-law, risking perjury and jail, to do ... what? And why? And what's in it for them? Or for Michael, for that matter?

(Before you answer, let me go get my tin-foil hat.)

410 posted on 01/23/2006 12:56:05 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

I know that the swallow tests were negative in 1991, 1992, and 1993. Beyond that I don't know, except that she could swallow her own saliva. She didn't drool.

I tried to explain to you about the emerging from vegetative state to full consciousness. It goes on and off for a while. I believe that Terri was minimally conscious. If you don't, that's fine. Your opinion.


411 posted on 01/23/2006 12:56:47 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: floriduh voter
"Terri swallowed her saliva just like you do."

Nope. I can swallow my saliva whenever I want to. She couldn't. Three different tests in three different years proved that.

412 posted on 01/23/2006 1:00:04 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: md2576
I posted facts from all the above sources in my last post.

Here's your last post.

Nice bumper sticker slogans you got going on here. So are you finished debating because you can't produce facts or are you just being a raving Troll?

You claim to be posting facts from the autopsy report, the posted financial records of Terri Schiavo's estate, and evidence presented to the court in relation to Terri's advance directive. You admonished me for not posting links to your sources.

413 posted on 01/23/2006 1:04:38 PM PST by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: floriduh voter; md2576
Greer's illegal ad
414 posted on 01/23/2006 1:04:47 PM PST by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: robertpaulsen
And what's in it for them?

That is a very good question. If you drill down and really try to answer this question you may come to the truth. But first you must remove your adoration state of mind towards MS, and consider that he did not go through the 10 plus years of fighting Terri's parents out of love for Terri. Jodi would never have put up with that crap from him.

415 posted on 01/23/2006 1:06:46 PM PST by blueriver
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To: floriduh voter
Can you point out to me where Judge Greer's problem with his vision affected the case? Even if Judge Greer was 100% blind, are you saying that blind judges are not qualified to sit on the bench?

You have this prejudice against blind people? That they're just not good enough?

If not, then you better come up with a DAMN good reason why Judge Greer's vision is even an issue in this case.

416 posted on 01/23/2006 1:07:57 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
"Giving someone food is life support?"

If it is via a surgically implanted feeding tube because the patient is unable to swallow, yes.

Then using your logic Robert, you would support removal of life support from the following man.

In his youth he was a brilliant young scientist. Shortly after he married he was stricken by ALS- Lou Gehrig's disease. ALS is a terminal disease. When diagnosed, this young scientist was told he had less than 3 years to live. He has lived well over thirty years since then. The doctors were wrong about that.

Despite his brilliance that would lead him to stand beside Einstein in understanding the scientific basis of the universe, ALS completely disabled his body. He is unable to walk, bathe, and toilet himself. He needs someone to feed him through his feeding tube, and needs a computer to speak. A nurse must constantly attend him to move his limbs, which twitch uncontrollably as he sits strapped in a wheelchair laden with his breathing and feeding tubes. His wife also has attended his suffering for over 30 years.

Who would want to live this way? What quality of life could possibly be justified by keeping this man on life support?

Well, ask the scientists who just attended a lecture to hear him describe, via voice synthesizer, his latest scientific theories about the origin and operations of the universe....about which he has written hundreds of books and articles while shriveled in his wheelchair being kept alive artficially. Because Robert, if you pulled the feeding tube....Stephen Hawking would die from dehydration within about 13 days.

417 posted on 01/23/2006 1:10:30 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
"People like the Schindlers don't go around raiding their disabled child's medical trust funds."

Oh, I'm sure they wouldn't use a term like "raiding". But they would have been entitled to every penny of it, in that they intended to care for her in their home.

"Just come on down to the Terri dailies"

Ask me to eat ground glass. It would be easier.

418 posted on 01/23/2006 1:14:38 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Nope. I can swallow my saliva whenever I want to. She couldn't. Three different tests in three different years proved that.

Bully for you. So could Terri. She was never noted drooling. Nor was she suctioned. NO swallowing tests authorized by Michael after 1998. Backed by Judges including Greer. Testimony from multiple nursing home aides who provided daily care after that time (and before her 2000 transfer to hospice) that they spoon fed her and let her suck on washcloth (in secret defiance of husbands orders) and she enjoyed it. Info available in court records.
419 posted on 01/23/2006 1:17:43 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Shalom Israel
"And just as we can discuss the weight of Mr. Schiavo's testimony"

Judge Greer admitted, in the court record, that he gave less weight to Michael's testimony. You're not breaking any new ground here.

"The motion was to kill Terri"

According to the testimony from the other side, I thought the motion was to keep Terri alive.

"Kill. Verb. Cause to die."

Mercy. Noun. Allow to die.

420 posted on 01/23/2006 1:22:24 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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