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1 posted on 05/09/2003 8:41:21 AM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
"When will it stop, this change after change after change in our liturgy? Will it never end? In a word, No."

""Let chaos storm!"

"I trust we shall soon feel at ease with the drape and the feel and the fit."

Somehow I doubt it.

2 posted on 05/09/2003 8:44:12 AM PDT by Polycarp ("When a mother can kill her own child, what is left of the West to save?" - Mother Theresa)
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It's high time the bishop got out of Dodge.
3 posted on 05/09/2003 8:55:43 AM PDT by Loyalist
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To: Polycarp
Christos Voskrese!

? ?? I think the good Bishop is trying to make a point ... or something like that?

Hmm, Let's see,

"The wind blows where it wills, and you hear the sound of it, but you do not know whence it comes or whither it goes; so it is with every one who is born of the Spirit."

Jesus calms a storm as the ship He's on is about to sink...

Okay, I give up. The image of crystals under the good Bishop's pillow keeps coming to mind...

4 posted on 05/09/2003 9:51:48 AM PDT by TotusTuus ( Voistinu Voskrese!)
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I've been trying to think up something funny to say, but how can you parody something like this? How can you possibly be ironic about a bishop who says things like "let chaos storm, let cloud shapes swarm"?

How did this guy get to be a bishop? Who taught him this New Age theology? Who promoted him? Who recommended him? Who consecrated him? Why is it that only heretics can become bishops today?

Most importantly: What options are available to the faithful when the faithless have a stranglehold on the hierarchy of the Church?
6 posted on 05/09/2003 10:00:10 AM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Polycarp
It would have been easier to simply say

"The liturgy is changing again. Deal with it."

But this is a wee bit more elegant.
9 posted on 05/09/2003 10:08:30 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Polycarp
This column is so noncommittal and vague, it's hard to say what the bishop was trying to say. More likely, he was trying to fill up his monthly quota of words without saying anything.

Most of the changes in the new General Instruction of the Roman Missal are improvements. Not all, however.

The worst distortion of the liturgy, which simply will have to go sometime in the next few years, is turning the priest to face the people. We will have to wait until the sixties generation are dead. They are the ones who are fanatically attached to this distortion.

12 posted on 05/09/2003 10:15:46 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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An excellent example of post-modernist gobble-dee-gook. Change is good. Change is life. God is change. Don't you get it?
16 posted on 05/09/2003 10:28:26 AM PDT by Antoninus (I sure don't...)
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To: Polycarp
Ahem.


We make ourselves a place apart
Behind light words that tease and flout,
But oh, the agitated heart
Till someone really finds us out

Also


Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief.

-Robert Frost
20 posted on 05/09/2003 10:48:17 AM PDT by TradicalRC (Fides quaerens intellectum.)
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To: Polycarp
"My dear people" - I don't know why, but I feel patronized.

Funny that you came up with this today as this morning I saw this picture linked to diocesereport.com:

And wondered which diocese this took place in. Yep, it was in the happenin' diocese of Bishop "Happy" Gilmore.

Also found on that site:
"Changing the Liturgy is serious business. The last time the Vatican issued changes was in 1975. In fact, some of the upcoming changes are previous changes that were never implemented. For example, when ready to receive Communion, the congregation will stand, and will stay standing until the last person receives the Eucharist. This mandate was published in 1975, but never incorporated.

Individual bishops have authority to make changes in addition to those mandated by the GIRM. For example, while there is nothing in the GIRM concerning where to place your hands during the Lord’s Prayer, Cardinal John Mahoney of Los Angeles requires that congregants do not hold hands, but instead raise them in the air, palms upward.

Is this true? Did the 1975 mandate (?) sanction us standing until every one has received???

And this is something I wonder about as well... where did the handholding and palms held up and out during the Our Father come from?

24 posted on 05/09/2003 11:12:08 AM PDT by american colleen
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Oh wow, man. The colors!
26 posted on 05/09/2003 11:26:16 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This tagline has been banned.)
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To: Polycarp
God is a God of order, and not of chaos.
29 posted on 05/09/2003 12:02:44 PM PDT by fishtank
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To: Polycarp
Is this letter supposed to be a secret code?

If not, is it supposed to be decipherable?

....only in Dodge City.
31 posted on 05/09/2003 12:12:12 PM PDT by ninenot (H&K: Problem-Solver)
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To: Polycarp
Time is not time unless it flows on. Slowly, gradually, haltingly, stop and start, by guess and by gosh: it can do no other except to flow on. It cannot be rushed. It cannot be slowed. Time is ... Time.

A Pope Piel I, I will not only laicize this dude, he will be forced to live the rest of his life repeating this ridiculous paragraph.

41 posted on 05/09/2003 1:08:01 PM PDT by drstevej
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Dodge City

Is this where Matt and Kitty go to church?

48 posted on 05/09/2003 1:30:23 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Polycarp
Is the bishop wearing makeup?
54 posted on 05/09/2003 2:54:45 PM PDT by Conservative til I die (They say anti-Catholicism is the thinking man's anti-Semitism; that's an insult to thinking men)
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To: Polycarp
Serious question (totally unrelated to topic -- kind of):

What is the protocol for a NON-Catholic attending Mass? Is a non-Catholic expected to stand, sit, kneel, genuflect, make the sign of the cross? Need help. As a non-Catholic I prefer to sit respectfully and feel foolish doing more.

62 posted on 05/09/2003 5:14:17 PM PDT by EverOnward
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"You cannot step into the same river twice".
Heraclitus

"You cannot step into the same Mass twice".
Bishop Gilmore
65 posted on 05/09/2003 5:45:51 PM PDT by k omalley
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What more needs to be said? Chaos is King, Our Lord is unseated. The smell of Satan is in the Vatican and in the Church.
69 posted on 05/09/2003 6:51:52 PM PDT by narses (Christe Eleison)
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To: Polycarp
**When will it stop, this change after change after change in our liturgy? Will it never end? In a word, No.**

I hope it won't stop. We have a living church made up of you, me and others like us along with the priests, deacons, bishops, cardinals and Pope. We are changing all the time. If the Catholic Church stops changing then it will be a dead church.

We need to stop living in past memories of Latin Masses, etc.!
70 posted on 05/09/2003 10:14:04 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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General Instruction of the Roman Missal [G. I. R. M.]
72 posted on 05/09/2003 10:21:29 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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