Posted on 03/30/2002 7:53:37 PM PST by malakhi
Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue. - John Adams |
Have you declared him Immaculate? Is he now free from questioning becuase he is our Lord?
Yeh, that's what I'm saying. Good evaluation Dave. Lol
JH
Factually incorrect!
Factually incorrect? Whatever are you on about?
There are no facts here, only beliefs. I was illustrating the belief we have about ordination being irrevocable, akin to birth. That you don't agree with Catholicism is hardly worth noting.
SD
Well, since malakhi came up with the same conclusion, I don't feel so foolish.
As for the "pharisitical" line of questioning I was badgering everybody with, Backy and Cindy had no problem answering. They didn't feel like Jesus under fire.
SD
YES! ;o)
I think Paul was stating a belief about the human condition in general, not merely for himself.
SD
Stop the presses! NC discovers the difference between venial and mortal sins.
LOL
SD
I don't get it. Can you explain for us slower folk? :')
me: YES! ;o)
SD: Nah, we didn't do that til Trent, remember?
Oh, I thought ventana was talking about the "New Testament".
SD
What does this mean, will you answer the d@mn questiion?
JH (grin) & :-)
Since we are (for sake of his argument) saved by faith alone, not having faith is a bad thing.
We can judge hwo does and who does not have faith by whether they repeat their sins.
SD
I see in scripture where God has done this for the tribe of Levi, but where in the NT does it say the office of a priest is irrevocable?
If I had been a pedophile or a fornicator, God would not have had me in his hand to start with.
JH :-)
He didn't have no fine print about taking it back if they sinned too bad.
SD
Ok. I see now. You can't find it anywhere in the NT. This is just some private interpretation of scripture.
I pray your right.
JH :-)
What a sad thought. So someone who is engaged in fornication can never be saved? That's not what you mean.
Someone who is saved will never engage in a sexual sin. No, that's not it either. People can fail.
What you mean is that saved people can't possibly do things that bad. You are putting a stipulation on salvation. Instead of salvation by "faith alone" you have added a clause. If you fall into sin that is too "heinous" God won't pull you out.
S
ipeV ##50829: BTW, the "casting the first stone" stipulation, was according to the Law, that the first to cast the stone had to be not guilty of that exact same sin in order to cast the stone.
me #50844: Can you cite me the specific verse which states this requirement?
Where in the Law is this requirement found?
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