Posted on 03/30/2002 7:53:37 PM PST by malakhi
Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue. - John Adams |
Yes, I have. And my understanding of what he said is quite different than yours.
(Hey, biblewonk... Here's the perfect place to insert your favorite saying, regarding you and those obnoxious "drag pipes" of yours... ;-)
That's for me to decide, isn't it? Is there no NC who can answer this simple question?
Why won't any of you guys answer?
Oh well, when your argument crumbles, praise God and bash me. It's so typical.
SD
I will await Dave's clarification.
Sorry to hear that. Take it easy, and heal quickly! :o)
I stand behind what I posted earlier but if I was on the jury, the guy that tortured and then murdered little Samantha might be an exception.
Dave, is this an accurate characterization of your opinion? If not, please correct.
Why would I expect anyone to characterize what I say accurately?
I said nothing about whether they were "conscious" of their "wickedness." Only that certain sinful acts, which one attempt to refrain from, can sometimes occur when we are weak. This is not to say that we set out or have a "conscious design" to sin, just that we fail.
Of course, upon reflection, even whilst sinning we can be "conscious" of our "wickedness."
My words are being twisted around. As usual.
It would help if there was an honest NC around who might join in an honest examination of the occasions of sin and the impulses and motives and culpabilities for such. But that will have to wait for the Lutheran or Anglican, who, of course being sacramental, don't count.
SD
Including all the old threads it would be over 120,000 posts. But who's counting? ;o)
Did any of them get you to answer the questions?
SD
SD
If the scribes or Pharisees had asked Jesus if he had ever sinned, what do you think He would have said?
No! I have never sinned?
Jesus never sounded His own trumpet or bragged. I believe instead of distancing Himself from everyone by saying I have never sinned, He'd have said something like,
Sin is the transgressions of God's laws, I love the Father and his laws, and keep His Commandments.
Then I can hear the Pharisees now.
Answer the d@mn question, and stop avoiding the answer, have you ever in your life, blah, blah, blah ? :-)
JH
Accuracy, schmaccuracy ;)
Sounds like a perfect title for a new series of recurring threads in the Religion forum.
But, but, how can you say that? How could you possibly believe something like that? Just more of you Catholics inventing tradition. Why don't you try backing that up with scripture?
I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. (Romans 7:15)
Oh, never mind. ;o)
It would help if there was an honest NC around who might join in an honest examination of the occasions of sin and the impulses and motives and culpabilities for such. But that will have to wait for the Lutheran or Anglican, who, of course being sacramental, don't count.
You could ping Quester or the808bass, but then you'd have to explain the whole thing all over again.
Are you implying that ipeV is Jesus?
Oh well, when your argument crumbles, praise God and bash me. It's so typical.
That's why! You have just provided your own answer. You are right. It is typical of you.
How many NC's have you found cheering and defending the most extreme arguments of in_principio_erat_Verbum?
Does it remind you of how difficult it was to get any of the RC's to deny it was/is ok to kill "heretics"?
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