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Dave is now claiming that pedophile priests who have engaged in the ongoing, habitual practice of pedophilia over decades of time are not conscious of their wickedness.

Dave, is this an accurate characterization of your opinion? If not, please correct.

Why would I expect anyone to characterize what I say accurately?

I said nothing about whether they were "conscious" of their "wickedness." Only that certain sinful acts, which one attempt to refrain from, can sometimes occur when we are weak. This is not to say that we set out or have a "conscious design" to sin, just that we fail.

Of course, upon reflection, even whilst sinning we can be "conscious" of our "wickedness."

My words are being twisted around. As usual.

It would help if there was an honest NC around who might join in an honest examination of the occasions of sin and the impulses and motives and culpabilities for such. But that will have to wait for the Lutheran or Anglican, who, of course being sacramental, don't count.

SD

I said nothing about whether they were "conscious" of their "wickedness." Only that certain sinful acts, which one attempt to refrain from, can sometimes occur when we are weak. This is not to say that we set out or have a "conscious design" to sin, just that we fail.

But, but, how can you say that? How could you possibly believe something like that? Just more of you Catholics inventing tradition. Why don't you try backing that up with scripture?

I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. (Romans 7:15)

Oh, never mind. ;o)

It would help if there was an honest NC around who might join in an honest examination of the occasions of sin and the impulses and motives and culpabilities for such. But that will have to wait for the Lutheran or Anglican, who, of course being sacramental, don't count.

You could ping Quester or the808bass, but then you'd have to explain the whole thing all over again.

Why would I expect anyone to characterize what I say accurately?

I said nothing about whether they were "conscious" of their "wickedness." Only that certain sinful acts, which one attempt to refrain from, can sometimes occur when we are weak. This is not to say that we set out or have a "conscious design" to sin, just that we fail.

Of course, upon reflection, even whilst sinning we can be "conscious" of our "wickedness."

My words are being twisted around. As usual.

It would help if there was an honest NC around who might join in an honest examination of the occasions of sin and the impulses and motives and culpabilities for such. But that will have to wait for the Lutheran or Anglican, who, of course being sacramental, don't count.

Time for a name change? How about SuperVictim?