Myself, I'm more interested in the provenance of the Holy Hand Grenade.
Posted on 08/19/2024 6:46:41 PM PDT by bitt
A controversial linen shroud - regarded by some to be the one Jesus was buried in - has baffled the world for more than centuries.
When it was first exhibited in the 1350s, the Shroud of Turin was touted as the actual burial shroud used to wrap the mutilated body of Christ after his crucifixion.
Also known as the Holy Shroud, it bears a faint image of the front and back of a bearded man, which many believers is Jesus' body miraculously imprinted onto the fabric.
But research in the 1980s appeared to debunk the idea it was real after dating it to the Middle Ages, hundreds of years after Christ's death.
Now, Italian researchers who used a new technique involving x-rays to date the material have confirmed it was manufactured around the time of Jesus about 2,000 years ago.
They say the fact the timelines add up lends credence to the idea that the faint, bloodstained pattern of a man with his arms folded in front were left behind by Jesus' dead body.
The Bible states that Joseph of Arimathea wrapped the body of Jesus in a linen shroud and placed it inside the tomb.
Matthew 27:59-60 reads: 'Then Joseph took the body and wrapped it in a new linen cloth. He put Jesus’ body in a new tomb that he had dug in a wall of rock. Then he closed the tomb by rolling a very large stone to cover the entrance. After he did this, he went away.'
The burial cloth has captivated the imagination of historians, church chiefs, skeptics and Catholics since it was first presented to the public in the 1350s.
French knight Geoffroi de Charny gave it to the dean of the church in Lirey, France, proclaiming it as the Holy Shroud.
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Not this tired old “but muh carbon dating” disclaimer again in the middle of the article.
Glad someone had the honesty to re-examine.
I saw the photographer that was hired to examine the Shroud. He was non Messianic Jewish. He said “I went in there saying we will know within 10 minutes if they used pigmentation or heat to create the image....but after 6 months of studying and examining it, we had absolutely no idea!”
He said his biggest reason for believing it was not genuine was because the blood was reddish and not blackish as you would explain. He said years later he asked a friend that was a hematologist if blood ever dries red instead of black. His friend said that in rare cases when a victim in horribly , the body releases bilirubin in the blood which would cause that. After hearing that, he became 100% convinced it was real.
Myself, I'm more interested in the provenance of the Holy Hand Grenade.
Why does every depiction of the face of Jesus Christ produced since circa the 800s look more or less the same?
Uhh...hello...it’s the precise shroud in question.
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A technique so new and amazing that nobody else has used it... Interesting. Carbon dating works. X-ray Hocus Pocus doesn’t.
Made in China?
I doubt the debate about the shroud will ever be resolved.
Unless and until they can prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that it’s genuine, it’s a curiosity, at best and proves nothing.
And even if they do. For what purpose?
Believers already put their faith in Christ. People who believe the shroud is real will continue to do so.
Those who don’t want to believe won’t even if Jesus Himself appeared to Him and did miracles right to their face. There were Jews in the Gospels who met with Him, talked with Him, argued with Him, and saw Him do miracles who still wouldn’t believe.
Thrice shalt thy count.
The Bible is very clear that Jesus’ head was wrapped separately from His body.
And no, He did not have long hair.
5 is right out.
Was that what was on the tag found in the cloth?
You don’t need a piece of cloth, or nail or spear to figure out that Jesus existed. His existence is well documented in historical Roman ruins and txt.
Don’t believe it. You are wrong. The carbon-14 dating took a piece of the resown part of the cloth. This Shroud IS the burial cloth of Jesus Christ.
Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.
They don’t. They differ in one important characteristic. Most of them depict Jesus with nails driven through his hands.
A strong piece of evidence for the authenticity of the Shroud is that it doesn’t match the conventional depiction of the post-800 era. The wounds are in the wrists, not the hands — because that would have been the only way for the nails to support the weight of a man’s body on a cross.
“I COME Quickly and My Reward Is
With Me!”
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Because He Lives I Shall Also!
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A cloth is interesting But the Creator of the Universe who lays down His Life is Infiinfinitly More Precious.
Yes, the Sudarium.
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