Posted on 06/08/2024 10:48:10 PM PDT by Cronos
Perhaps anticipating his death, Joseph met often with apostles and other close associates to restore the temple endowment prior to the completion of the Nauvoo temple. Wilford Woodruff, later situated the temple instruction in praying for the Lord's biblical vengeance of blood of the prophets as follows:[3]
I have already said that there is nothing [antagonistic to the government in the Mormon endowments] of that kind in any part or phase of Mormonism. I ought to know about that as I am one of the oldest members of the church. A good deal is being made of a form of prayer based upon two verses in the sixth chapter of the revelations of St. John as contained in the New Testament. It relates to praying that God might avenge the blood of the prophets. An attempt has, I see, been made to connect this with avenging the death of Joseph and Hyrum Smith and to have reference to this nation. It can have no such application as the endowments were given long before the death of Joseph and Hyrum and have not been changed. This nation and government has never been charged by the Mormon people with the assassination of Joseph and Hyrum Smith. As it is well known the murder was the act of the local mob disguised. Recent generations of Latter-day Saints, who haven't experienced mob violence, may be surprised at or uncomfortable with such oaths Recent generations of Latter-day Saints, who haven't experienced mob violence, kidnapping attempts, and death threats, may be surprised at or uncomfortable with the feelings of many earlier saints who were praying for justice instead of praying for their enemies. But we live in kinder, gentler times; and nineteenth-century Mormons—especially those who came out of Nauvoo—saw the hand of God whenever their persecutors suffered misfortune, a feeling common to most powerless, persecuted minority groups.
After Joseph Smith's death, his closest friends continued to meet after his death.[4] This group met to test revelation ("try all things"), pray for the healing of sick members, pray for the success of church projects, and pray for deliverance from their enemies. Heber C. Kimball recalled that after Joseph's death the prayer circle met and prayed for God's vengeance.[5]
Summarizing Willard Richards' activities immediately after the martyrdom, historian Claire Noall wrote:
True, in this [1850] speech Richards finally denounced the actual murderers; but when notifying the Church of Joseph Smith's death at Carthage jail, he wrote to Nauvoo that the people of Carthage expected the Mormons to rise, but he had "promised them no." The next day from the steps of the Prophet's home, he reminded his people that he had pledged his word and his honor for their peaceful conduct. And when writing the news of Smith's death to Brigham Young then near Boston, Willard Richards said the blood of martyrs does not cry from the ground for vengeance; vengeance is the Lord's.[6]
Temple work in general and, more specifically, prayers that God, rather than Mormon members, would avenge Joseph Smith is what was the salvation of the church in Nauvoo. Instead of giving vent to passionate desires for revenge using the impressively-sized Nauvoo Legion, the brethren were able to get members to channel their frustration and anger into petitions to the Almighty for justice. Their actual energy was concentrated on the things of heaven through temple building and service. Temple prayer became a way of ritually memorializing Joseph Smith's martyrdom.
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Well played
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No they don't.
There are commonalities among all the religions of middle eastern/southwest Asian origin, but those bear scant resemblance to Shinto, Confucianism, Jainism, Sikhism, Santería, the Druids, the Mayans, and a host of others.
After the Mountain Meadows Massacre of immigrants going to California and attacks on the Shepherd and Miltmore wagon trains the US Army invaded “ZION.”
Later, during the wars between the US Army and Navajos it was found the mormons were supplying guns and ammo to the Navajos and urging them to attack Union forts in the area. During the Civil War, this lead to the capture of the Navajos and removal to Ft Sumner NM (The Long Walk) which the tribes still cry about today. It was more like a “Long Stroll” when compared to the Trail of Tears.
Is half court ok?
Well, THIS is found in their scriptures...
All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient:
all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
But, as you have already noticed, Headquarters wants to put it’s brand of control on folks.
I didn’t think I was that far South.
That would be Elsie
Weird?
Well, I’m a charter member of the FR Flying Inmans!
https://freerepublic.com/~delacoert/#Flying%20Inmans
Psalm 121:4 niv
indeed, he who watches over Israel
will neither slumber nor sleep.
Regarding Mormons as individuals I have zero opinion as I don’t know any Mormons personally.
Regarding Romney - when he was the final GoP candidate vs BO, I supported him. I wasn’t a big fan of his candidacy, but neither was I strongly against him.
As to Mormonism, I dislike it as an amateur historian firstly - the idea of stating that semitic people moved to the Americas without leaving any archaeological, linguistic, genetic or historical/lore trace is just stupid imho.
and I find it incredible that J Smith just took on Mohammed’s idea + some other bits and bobs and made a religion to keep himself wealthy and with lots of wives. Just like JK Rowling took 19th century British schoolyard books and put a thin veneer of magic around it and badabing, a best selling series.
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Both Mohammed and Joseph Smith taught that true salvation was to be found only in their respective religions....
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And yet we don’t have a Mohammed calendar or a Joseph Smith calendar that change times and laws like the Harlot daughter’s Mother does through their Antichrist..
“that really had a hard one for the Mormons back when Romney was running…”
Don’t spend too much time thinking about polygamy. It rots your brain.
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