Our Nation Is Dying Because Of Idle Shepherds Who Refuse To Get Involved In ‘Political Issues’

Harbingers Daily ^ | 6/4/24 | Jack Hibbs

[Roman_War_Criminal]

Abortion is one of the driving political forces of this current election cycle. Sadly, many ill-informed pastors and Christians refuse to get involved in things like the sanctity of life because of their politics. “That’s political stuff,” they say. Really?

Do you know how that happened? Politicians ran into the church, took the topic of abortion, and declared it to be a political issue, knowing that a weak, worthless, wimpy church would bow down and leave the scene. The political world ran in and said, “Marriage is not a church issue; it’s a political issue!” And the church just collapsed and folded.

As you can tell, I have no confidence at all in a church that is not a New Testament church. Why would I? Why would anybody? The church has to be the ground and pillar of all truth. The church has to be the entity by which the world is brought to the knowledge of God and also the conviction of God. The church is to be the most loved and the most hated people on Earth—just like Jesus.

If you are a pastor who says, “We just preach the gospel,” and neglects to get involved in the things your people have to live through six days a week, you are an idle Shepherd. You may have a degree. You may have your doctorate in ministry. You may come from a long line of preachers. That is irrelevant!

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Christian: This nation is dying, if it’s not already dead. Why? A dead church.

[Jane Long]

Strange, I got sick of my last pastor’s constant talk about political issues....

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Then, you have a choice ... leave, if you don’t like the message.

Most churches are too afraid to talk about hot button political issues.

God bless Pastor Hibbs for doing just that.

[hoagy62]

Also, churches are afraid to be turned in to the IRS for fear of losing their 501(c) tax-exempt status.

Also sad but true.

[Reverend Wright]

” ....a lot of Christians fall behind the “turn the other cheek” and use that to refrain from any confrontation....”

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They do that out of cowardice.

They want to conform to the world while disguising their surrender as Christian Holiness and love and turn the other cheek, or being “winsome” and attractive to the culture.

It is easier just to remain silent and a lot of us have fallen into that trap, but leadership positions require leadership.

[DouglasKC]

Many Christians such as myself understand that there is no use in putting our hope into the the present world system. We are living in Babylon. We are living in the devils playground. The only hope for the world is the return of Jesus Christ and the establishment of HIS earthly kingdom.

[ladyjane]

I’m not sure churches are afraid of complaining. Churches are getting millions of dollars bringing in illegals. They want the $$$.

If you are getting $$$ from the government they OWN you.

[fidelis]

Leaven is a picture of sin. Unleavened is the goal of the Church.

Not always. There is bad "leaven" as well as good.

Jesus places the image of leaven as comparable to the mustard seed as something that invisibly causes the growth and spreading of the kingdom of God:

Jesus said therefore, “What is the kingdom of God like? And to what shall I compare it? It is like a grain of mustard seed which a man took and sowed in his garden; and it grew and became a tree, and the birds of the air made nests in its branches.”
And again he said, “To what shall I compare the kingdom of God? It is like leaven which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal, till it was all leavened.” (Luke 13:18-21)

[Danie_2023]

“its weakness....a lot of Christians fall behind the “turn the other cheek” and use that to refrain from any confrontation....””

A lot of that is due to fear and apathy. It’s just easier for some to pretend that that’s what God wants them to do... when it’s really just what they want to do. Which is nothing.

“I think God meant for us to be warriors....I don’t think God intended for people to get slaughtered... abortion/war/violence/rape/etc...without a fight....”

God sure directed the Israelis to defend and conquer and fight a lot back then. And the need for ‘the fight’ has only increased since then. So, yeah.

“HE gave us brains and HE gave us muscles....”

He also gave us his word to rely on and the discernment, if we asked for it, to decide what we need to do to survive and be victorious over our enemies. It’s going to be a battle from here on until the return of Jesus.

Jesus said: “But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.”

https://biblehub.com/matthew/24-13.htm#:~:text=-%20He%20that%20shall%20endure%20unto%20the,end%2C%20the%20same%20shall%20be%20saved%20%28Matthew%2010%3A22%29.

[metmom]

Yes, I have heard that.

But there’s a difference between endorsing candidates and political parties, and advising your congregation who to vote for and opposing murder and sexual perversion.

One of the right’s big problems is that we’ve left the left define the narrative. The left claims abortion and sexual license are political arenas, but they are not. They are issues of morals and sin, the church’s realm.

But our accepting the left’s narrative and arguing or complying with their mandates puts them solidly in control.

[delchiante]

In the examples you give,birds can be seen as demons making a home in the Kingdom.

And a woman places three meals of sin and false doctrines in the lump makes the whole lump full of sin/false doctrines/corruption..

Both of those pictures prophesy that the Kingdom was going to be corrupted,fully leavened, and inhabited by demons..

Now, how different does the state of the end times Church look like from that perspective?

And then take into account that America is unique in that it began with 13 Colonies as Christ began with Him and His 12.

And grew to 50 states, as the New Covenant Church grew at 50..

So goes the Church, so goes America
So goes America,so goes the Church..

That probably won’t preach in too many places..

[fidelis]

In the examples you give, birds can be seen as demons making a home in the Kingdom. And a woman places three meals of sin and false doctrines in the lump makes the whole lump full of sin/false doctrines/corruption.. Both of those pictures prophesy that the Kingdom was going to be corrupted,fully leavened, and inhabited by demons..

It could be interpreted that way if that were the context in which the remarks were given. Jesus, however, is clearly referring back to OT texts that speak of birds in a great tree as representing the Gentile nations (see Ezekiel 31:1-13; Daniel 4:12). He is most clearly alluding to the prophesy in Ezekiel 17:22-24 about Israel being such a tree that will one day gather in the Gentiles into the Church (Matthew 28:19).

[delchiante]

Um, how about the birds that eat the seed that falls on the wayside that He then referenced as the evil one in His parable of the sower?

And how about the 6,000 Legion that leaves the man and enters about 2,000 swine, an animal that is not allowed to be eaten or touched?
About 2,000 demon possessed swine years that matches the exact about 2,000 cubits Israel was to be kept from the ark before Passing Over?

There is more examples of the Kingdom being corrupted in the scriptures than the Church aka the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth wants to admit..

Go figure..
It sits pretty tall as a lawless Whore on the Beast.

[fidelis]

Um, how about the birds that eat the seed that falls on the wayside that He then referenced as the evil one in His parable of the sower?

Um, that does not fit in the obvious context of Jesus building upon the OT references of birds in a large tree.

And how about the 6,000 Legion that leaves the man and enters about 2,000 swine, an animal that is not allowed to be eaten or touched? About 2,000 demon possessed swine years that matches the exact about 2,000 cubits Israel was to be kept from the ark before Passing Over?

That has nothing to do with the texts under discussion.

There is more examples of the Kingdom being corrupted in the scriptures than the Church aka the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth wants to admit..

It's not matter of how many times a particular theme is mentioned, it matters more of understanding how a particular text is presented in context, including it's drawing upon obvious OT foreshadowings.

[delchiante]

Here’s some OT foreshadowing that The Church can’t teach:

Two sons of Judah from Tamar, his daughter in law.
Zerah,meaning Light
Peres, meaning breach

Zerah sticks his hand out, and only his hand, enough time to tie the crimson band around his arm,then he retracts it..

Then Peres comes forth fully born..

Then Zerah comes forth fully born.

Light comes and isn’t fully born, but is signified as having the scarlet thread around His Arm, signifying the blood shed by that Light, only to go to Heaven..

The Breach is fully born, a period where the Light isn’t Here.

That Breach is a period where the Light has left.

The world is in that Breach period, especially the Priesthood of Judah, which is what the OT predicted for the Church Age before Christ was Here as the Light of the World,shed His Blood,then the Light left.

Only to be followed by a Breach period, a Peres.

There is a time when the Light, Zerah, is fully born.

But the Breach has to run its course first.
That’s been about 2,000 years.
Or 2 days or maybe 2 hours of darkness. About 2 cockcrows.
About 2,000 years/cubits/

What you call good, the bible says is actually evil..

Again, the OT shadows a breach in the Priesthood of Judah through two twins..

This Breach is aka The Church Age where the Light left.

You don’t have to buy that OT foreshadowing.

Those being led out of Babylon will have that as just another confirmation of the corruption of the Kingdom that has occurred since the Light left.

All predicted in ways the Church can’t see or hear..

Amazingly prophetic..

[fidelis]

Amazingly prophetic..

I would consider it bit of a stretch, but if that is your personal interpretation, you are welcome to it.

[delchiante]

If by personal interpretation you mean understanding parables, even some that are found in the OT, then that’s the goal isn’t it?

To have eyes that see and ears that hear?

Note these are parables and accounts in the bible I didn’t compile.

Lines upon lines.
Precept upon precept.

If you don’t like those 2 Judah twins, Er and Onan are two others that might not exactly do much to refute the premise that the Priesthood of Judah is tracking the same way the Priesthood of Aaron did/does.

Recall when I mentioned that He ordered the Offering at the Feast of Weeks to be 2 Leavened Loaves vs the Unleavened at Passover, well, 2 Leavened loaves is what Saul was given.

It just might not denote the natural but highly symbollic and prophetic meanings.

Before King David ruled, Saul did..

Maybe it’s not an accident He chose Saul/Paul either.

Parables abound in the OT and NT!!

For eyes to see and ears to hear..

The last Church was wretched and miserable, poor, BLIND, and naked..

Gold refined by fire is available but it’s probably not going to come from the Church..

It’s in the scriptures. Hidden manna even..

[Cronos]

We were told to be wary of False “flesh and blood” messiahs

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Harold Camping

[Varsity Flight]

Every physical church should have a convent for all unwed, surrounded by guns.

Several times a year, an inside advertised quiet social for potential suitors, would convene.

No unwed women would ever be permitted outside, if ever, without their head covered, and without armed chaperones.

[mewzilla]

I call them willing for the shilling...

https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2023/october/covid-study-ppp-loans-cares-act-churches.html

Too many of our houses of worship now serve mammon.