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What More Does The Church Need To See Before They Conclude We Are Nearing Christ’s Return?
Harbingers Daily ^ | 5/21/24 | Jonathan Brentner

Posted on 05/23/2024 3:49:40 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

This sounds so much like today! I couldn’t get that thought out of my head as I read the John 6 account of Jesus’ interaction with the Jews the day after His feeding of the five thousand.

How did those in the crowd on that day respond to Jesus’ plea that they believe in Him? They asked, “Then what sign do you do, that we may see and believe you? What work do you perform?” (John 6:30).

What more did they need to see?

Jesus had just fed a multitude with “five barley loaves” and “two fish.” The total number of people could easily have been close to fifteen thousand since the number “five thousand” just included the men. Even satisfying the hunger of a few hundred people with such little food would’ve been a significant miracle, but to feed so great a gathering was over-the-top supernatural.

Seeing such a miraculous sign should’ve at least caused the crowd to consider Jesus’ claims on the following day, but most scoffed at His claims and walked away.

The lack of discernment among this hungry throng from so long ago bears a striking resemblance to many Christians today. They see the multitude of signs telling them that they live in the last moments of time before the start of the Tribulation, yet they respond in the same manner as those who witnessed the feeding of the five thousand.

They scoff at our hope of Jesus’ imminent appearing and flock to churches that proclaim an end-of-the-world return of Jesus that happens in the far distant future. They want what Jesus offers but would rather not look for His imminent intervention in their world.

Beginning in the early seventeenth century, many students of Bible prophecy taught that Israel would again become a nation. When this miraculously happened about three hundred years later, it did little to change the minds of those who claimed God had rejected Israel. This major fulfillment of Bible prophecy didn’t alter their errant thinking that the church was God’s kingdom in place of Israel.

In His mercy, the Lord is letting today’s world see multiple precursors pointing to the soon release of the horses of the apocalypse in Revelation 6:1-8. I believe that if it were not for His restraining force, the world would already have experienced the full impact of these judgments. Sometimes I’m amazed that we are still here and these horses remain in their stalls. We are so close, but for God’s mercy.

Never before has there been so much evidence pointing to the nearness of this time of wrath than today. However, never in recent history has there been so much unawareness and disbelief regarding Bible prophecy as we now see in churches.

The same unbelief that caused the crowd to refute Jesus’ claims in John chapter 6 keeps many of today’s Christians oblivious to the fact that their world could radically and suddenly change at any moment. It grieves my heart that despite professing to believe in the inspiration and inerrancy of Scripture, so many pastors remain sound asleep, mired in unbelief concerning what the Lord revealed in His Word regarding His appearing and the time of His wrath upon this wicked world.

Of course, Jesus attracted many true followers during His time on the earth. Many saw the signs He performed confirming His identity and recognized Him as their Messiah. Notice the response of those in Jerusalem a little while after the feeding of the five thousand: “Yet many of the people believed in him. They said, ‘When the Christ appears, will he do more signs than this man has done?’” (John 7:31).

We might ask a similar question to those who tell us we are foolish to look for Jesus’ appearing anytime soon, or even in our lifetime: ‘If the Lord were to warn today’s Christians that the Tribulation period was near, would we see any more signs of its soon arrival than we currently witness?’

I can’t imagine we could see more evidence of the approaching Day of the Lord than what we now witness. I’m aware that those who reading are likely eagerly awaiting His return, but I write to provide reassurance of the validity of what we see despite living in the midst of naysayers.

Just like those living in the first century AD, we live in biblical times today. Also similar to that day long ago, it’s primarily church leaders who are leading people away from anticipating the Lord’s imminent appearing.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: endtimes; ezekiel38; greattribulation; iran; israel; jonathanbrentner; judgement; lastdays; repentbsaved; signsofthetimes; tribulation
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Let me be clear: we should ALWAYS be on watch.

But the reason why the Church can - and should - take a breath, is because every Harold Camping has said the same thing ever since the Ascension. And yet, here we are, still in this valley of tears.

Baseball slugger Dave Kingman had 442 career home runs and 1,210 runs batted in (RBI) in 16 seasons. In his career, Kingman averaged a home run every 15.11 at bats, tied for 14th best all-time. At the same time, Kingman had 1,816 strikeouts-the fourth-highest total in MLB history at the time of his retirement. As a result of the increase in frequency of strikeouts in the intervening period, he ranked 23rd as of May 2024

It is an almost certainty that everyone on the planet today will die before the Return. They would do well to prepare their soul for that 100% guaranteed Event, rather than swing for the fences and strike out repeatedly.


61 posted on 05/23/2024 8:07:55 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s² )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Guess not.


62 posted on 05/23/2024 8:08:19 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: metmom
So are you saying,
you're ready to stand on the street corner with a sign that says:

The End is Near!" ?


63 posted on 05/23/2024 8:12:05 PM PDT by MurphsLaw (“We May Not Lose Our Salvation... But We CAN Indeed, Throw It Away....")
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To: Jim W N

I always found that an intriguing prophecy. And certainly knowledge has increased exponentially and people can traverse the world in times undreamed of for centuries. Flying halfway around the globe in a day? They could never have conceived it.


64 posted on 05/23/2024 8:16:32 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: DoodleBob
Let me be clear: we should ALWAYS be on watch.

Which is EXACTLY what Jesus told us to do.

65 posted on 05/23/2024 8:17:29 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: MurphsLaw

How you got that from my post is beyond me.


66 posted on 05/23/2024 8:18:24 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

(The lack of discernment among this hungry throng from so long ago bears a striking resemblance to many Christians today. They see the multitude of signs telling them that they live in the last moments of time before the start of the Tribulation, yet they respond in the same manner)

Ain’t that the truth!


67 posted on 05/23/2024 9:01:01 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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!In His mercy, the Lord is letting today’s world see multiple precursors pointing to the soon release of the horses of the apocalypse in Revelation 6:1-8... We are so close, but for God’s mercy.)

And this, too.


68 posted on 05/23/2024 9:03:49 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: metmom

🔝🔝🔝


69 posted on 05/23/2024 9:04:19 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Big Red Badger

(The New Jerusalem is our New Address!)

It’s definitely our hope.

But it will not come down until after the 1,000 year Reign of Jesus Christ. I’m sure that you’re already aware.

That is something I pray 🙏🙏🙏🛐🛐🛐 and try to keep looking forward to.

God bless


70 posted on 05/23/2024 9:07:42 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Big Red Badger

🔝🔝🔝

🛐🙏✝️

Luke 21:34-36


71 posted on 05/23/2024 9:10:25 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

(For naysayers, there will never be enough proof)

That’s true


72 posted on 05/23/2024 9:11:28 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: metmom
Ok... just making sure.
:)


73 posted on 05/23/2024 9:11:44 PM PDT by MurphsLaw (“We May Not Lose Our Salvation... But We CAN Indeed, Throw It Away....")
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To: coincheck
(He is a politician. He has gone out to establish a one world government. We can see the push for just that right now. That rider is on the move.)

Absolutely. He (the Antichrist, the Man of Lawlessness) is coming. I keep trying to tell some small portion of the world 🌏🌎🌍 NOW because the days are coming when it will be close to impossible to share the Word of God and the Gospel to the world 🌏🌎🌍 through the Internet.





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74 posted on 05/23/2024 9:22:20 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: metmom

Exactly.

Yeah how much time do I spend talking about the coming Tribulation?

BUT at the same time trying to wake people up to the evils of gay marriage, transgender agendas, Digital Currency and other stuff?


75 posted on 05/23/2024 9:25:11 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Millions of Christians were killed in the 20th century. Wasn't that the start of the Tribulation?

Or aren't Chinese, African and Russians Christians? It is only a matter of time until theUS and Europe face persecution,

The church needs to preach how to be holy and follow Christ.

Romans 8 35

76 posted on 05/23/2024 11:04:15 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: SaveFerris; Roman_War_Criminal
BUT at the same time trying to wake people up to the evils of gay marriage, transgender agendas, Digital Currency and other stuff?

Which raises an other point......

Jesus referenced both the days of Noah and days of Lot in relation to the end times, which gives us a clue about the levels of evil existing in the world.

In Noah's day, "that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually" and "the earth was corrupt in God's sight, and the earth was filled with violence" which is becoming increasingly more of our day to day lives. Does that sound descriptive of most of the people of some political persuasions?

At one point, in the not too recent past, even evil people had at least a more Christian world view and restraint so over all, in spite of a few outliers, people had a conscience.

Today we can see people everywhere that fit those descriptions.

Additionally, the days of Lot were notorious for the rampant homosexuality of the cities of the plain. And today we have what in the way of sexual perversion? The whole transgender movement and the persecution of those who do not actively promote and support it.

Yes, there have always been natural disasters but the moral depravity and corruption is becoming widespread in a manner that has not happened in a very long time.

And again, it's not an increase in any one sign but a convergence of them all escalating.

People who deny it can't possibly be denying it because of lack of evidence. Rather it's lack of belief.

77 posted on 05/23/2024 11:11:55 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

The last thing to happen before the door slams shut on this world will be the Mark of the Beast issue. False OSAS/OJAJ are doomed that receive the mark, as is everyone else living on earth at the time. Oh, they won’t be here because they will have been raptured? Nope. They’ll be waiting for something that will never happen. Fooled by Satan’s lies. Refusing to believe the truth. No coming back from receiving the mark. Done.


78 posted on 05/24/2024 4:49:46 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Same thing they said in the 1st Century


79 posted on 05/24/2024 4:50:19 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: metmom
"Which is EXACTLY what Jesus told us to do."

There must be something to see. I can't imagine Him saying, "Watch. You won't actually see anything, because 'no man knows, etc.' but keep your eyes open anyway."

When you couple that command with Paul's statement that we aren't in darkness and will know the season...

80 posted on 05/24/2024 5:05:50 AM PDT by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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