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Prophecy Coming to Life. . . Literally
Rapture Ready ^ | 1/22/24 | Jonathan Brentner

Posted on 01/23/2024 3:53:03 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal

A couple of recent news items point to the fulfillment of a prophecy in a way we likely would have thought impossible just ten years ago.

According to a Forbes online story, Elvis Presley is going to appear in concert this coming November on a London stage. Advanced technology, along with artificial intelligence (AI), will result in a realistic hologram image of the rock star singing and dancing on stage. I never imagined that the holograms I saw in futuristic movies of the past would so quickly become a reality.

Below is a quote from the article describing the fall concert:

“Through AI and groundbreaking tech, you’ll be able to witness iconic Elvis performances as if you were really there and celebrate defining moments in Elvis Presley’s extraordinary life and career,” U.K. immersive specialist Layered Reality, which is producing the show, said in a description of the upcoming experience.

That tech will include holographic projection and augmented reality. Theatrical sets and live actors will add to the Elvis extravaganza.

A second news item explains how this technology will likely be used to deceive people. Another online article suggests that a project called “NASA’s Blue Beam” will be used to project holograms. (Note: If you do an Internet search on this, you will see many articles stating that this is a “conspiracy theory.”)

Many of us so called “conspiracy theorists” have been made aware of the technology to beam holographic images into thin air that can trick us into believing that they are real. We have been warned that they will, at some point, be used by the globalist cult in order to terrorize the world population into a submissive state in order for them to be able to enact the next stage in their New World Order. This pre-planned event has been termed Project Blue Beam and was allegedly first brought to light by the French-Canadian journalist Serge Monast.

In spite of the many online denials that such technology exists, I side with those who believe that during the Tribulation period, the globalists will have the ability to project holograms wherever they desire and use them to deceive the public as well as enforce obedience to the beast.

I wonder if Jesus had such capabilities in mind when He spoke these words in Matthew 24:23-26:

“Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you beforehand. So, if they say to you, ‘Look, he is in the wilderness,’ do not go out. If they say, ‘Look, he is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.”

False “flesh and blood” messiahs will lead people astray during the Tribulation. It’s already happening. Someone responded to a blog article of mine a few years ago telling me that Jesus had already returned and was living in the Philippines. He told me the exact location, but I do not remember what he said.

On the other hand, the use of holograms will open up a whole new way for the global powerbrokers to deceive people. It’s not difficult to imagine how AI-generated “appearances” of Christ could be used to delude people into obeying the dictates of the antichrist and receiving the mark of the beast (Revelation 3:16-18). They might also terrorize those who refuse the mark.

It’s apparent that the globalists will need technology to keep people in line during the Tribulation. As I write, the World Economic Forum (WEF) is meeting in Davos, Switzerland, and has as one of its themes the restoring of trust, which I don’t recall them ever having. They recognize the need to persuade people to their point of view, which will not happen apart from deception and force.

The protest of thousands of farmers in Germany is just one of many examples of people throughout the world demonstrating against the socialist agenda of the WEF.

Once the Rapture happens, the globalists will need the supernatural signs and wonders of the false prophet and beast as well as advanced technology to deceive the masses and terrify others into accepting the enslavement of the world order.

We already understand how the use of AI technology, together with gigantic databases that already exist, will enable the antichrist to control the buying and selling worldwide by the midpoint of the Tribulation. The ability to project holograms might also be a tool he uses to accomplish the wicked domination that we read about in Revelation 13. Remember, this is over three and half years away if the Rapture should happen today. Given the rapid advances in technology, is it not easy to imagine how the coming man of lawlessness could use holograms to both deceive and terrorize humanity?

The signs of the rapidly approaching Tribulation are everywhere we look. How much longer can it be until Jesus takes us home to glory?


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To: rdcbn1
'The world was a much more brutal place before the birth of Christ and the establishment of the Church was the start of a kinder world."

It wasn't the establishment of the Church per se that made the world kinder. It was the message of Christ.

The Catholic Church and its politicization (continuing today!) alienated a lot of people; the alienated went on to continue the message of Christ through different interpretations and organizations. It wasn't just Catholicism that made the world 'kinder'. People we now understand as not so much 'religionists', as Deists, also made the world 'kinder', through intellectual and political thought - most markedly, our American founders.
41 posted on 01/23/2024 6:54:14 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Philsworld
My focus is bible prophecy and the 1260 YEARS of Papal persecution. Torture, murder, war, death, purposeful neglect, abuse, etc... 200+ million killed? Probably even more. The article does a good job of bringing this out.


While it is beyond dispute that the Catholic church has not always been on the side of the angels, this is part of the human condition.

It is also beyond dispute that the Catholic Church and Christianity in general has been the greatest force for civilization, peace and improving the lives of people around the world that has ever existed.

Lets add in the French Revolution for another case of anti clerical mass murder.

42 posted on 01/23/2024 6:57:13 PM PST by rdcbn1
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To: rdcbn1
'Lets add in the French Revolution for another case of anti clerical mass murder.'

I wonder what the Church did to bring that on...
43 posted on 01/23/2024 7:31:55 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Philsworld

We have from God Himself the conception of “Weeks” of years where He laid out the concepts of the Sabbath Year and the Year of the Jubilee in Leviticus 25. God established that paradigm.

Where is there any such similarly given paradigm equating a “day” with a year? Off the top of my head I don’t recall.

Here’s an example in the 12th chapter of Daniel where the reference to “days” is clearly literal days. Verse 12 becomes utter nonsense if we construe “days” as “prophetic years”; there’s NOBODY going to live to see 1,335 literal years.

11 From the time that the daily sacrifice is removed and the abomination that causes desolation is set in place, there are 1,290 days.
12 Blessed is the one who waits and attains to the 1,335 days.
— Daniel 12:11-12

So, while I’m not gonna say categorically “day” <> “year” I will say I don’t see scriptural support for the concept.

If you’ve got passages that make the association clear, feel free to post back; I’m always up to be well and truly convinved.


44 posted on 01/23/2024 7:36:32 PM PST by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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To: Philsworld; Jamestown1630
Here are some more books from your library of fiction:


45 posted on 01/23/2024 8:07:48 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: HKMk23; Philsworld
Of note, Revelation 12 describing the plight of the woman in two places is part of the strong support for “time, times and half a time” being correctly understood to be 3-1/2 years, as 1260 days is 3.5 360-day Hebrew years.

The 360-day year is a problem. I don’t know of any evidence that years were shorter in Daniel’s time than they are today . The Hebrew Calendar used 12 lunar cycles (29.5 days) for a year (354 days)with months added when needed to keep the seasons. If you use 360-days for a year, you will change winter into summer in 35 years.

3-1/2 years ≠ 42 months ≠ 1260 days. This introduces other possible interpretations. God put these proportions in place when he put the stars in motion. The cycle is 19 years. 12 short years and 7 long years. Very common numbers. Coincedence?
47 posted on 01/23/2024 9:15:30 PM PST by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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To: Seven_0

Nah, the Hebrews corrected by having a 13th month 7 out of every 19 years. At least that’s how their calendar is set up now.

I’m not saying, rigorously, that 3-1/2 years exactly == 1260 days — its obviously 2wks more, but it’ conversationally 3-1/2 years. If you went through something 1260 days long, in the wake you’d talk about it as “the past 3-1/2 years” without flinching about the mathematics. That’s how I’m taking it, ‘cuz I know God’s pretty sane & can do likewise without losing sleep.


48 posted on 01/23/2024 9:42:12 PM PST by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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To: HKMk23

There are five places in Revelation 11-13 that are around 3.5 years. What if they are all different? For example: Christ takes the reign of power in chapter 11. Do you think that 1260 days given to the beast in chapter 13 happens after that? What about the 1260 days in chapter 12?


49 posted on 01/23/2024 10:05:25 PM PST by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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To: Seven_0

I don’t think they’re different periods of time, because The Last Trumpet is in Ch. 11, so I Thes. 4:16, I Cor. 15:52, Rev. 14:14-16 all kicks in. After that, with all the judgments complete, it’s full-on Wrath of God in chs 15 & 16, a couple of chapters about the true nature of the vileness of the kingdom Christ is annihilating, then Christ the Assassin personally ends every last stubborn unbelieving soul in ch 19, and we’re off to see the Millennium.

It may help to explain that I think there’s a structure to Revelation 6-22 that alternates between actual chronological material, and what I’d call “sidebar”; either more in-depth explanations, or “meanwhile, back at the ranch” stuff, like “while this was happening here, over there THIS has been going on.”

Too many years I tried to read through the thing like it was ALL a chronology, and it wasn’t until I comprehended these angelic, explanatory breaks in the action that the real chronology emerged and made sense as a continuum.

Anyway, for your perusal, here it is in rough form:

A. Chronological Section #1 (Rev. 6). The seal judgments against the kingdom of darkness.
Angelic Explanation #1 (Rev. 7). The Church receives protection from judgments and falling away.

B. Chronological Section #2 (Rev. 8-9). The trumpet judgments against the Antichrist’s empire. Angelic Explanation #2 (Rev. 10-11). The Church receives direction by increased prophetic ministry.

C. Chronological Section #3 (Rev. 11:15-19). Jesus’ second coming royal procession and the rapture leading to Jesus replacing all the kings and top governmental leaders on earth.
Angelic Explanation #3 (Rev. 12-14). The Antichrist’s violent confrontation with the saints deserves Jesus’ judgment and the replacement of all his evil governments.
1. At the 7th and last trumpet (1 Thes. 4:16; 1 Cor. 15:52; Rev. 10:7), Jesus will rapture the Church and travel across the sky in a royal procession, so that every eye will see Him (Rev. 1:7).
7 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. (Rev. 1:7)
2. After this, Jesus will enter Jerusalem and stand on the Mount of Olives (Zech. 14:4).

D. Chronological Section #4 (Rev. 15-16). Bowl judgments destroy evil infrastructures in society.
Angelic Explanation #4 (Rev. 17-18). The seduction of Babylon’s evil religion will permeate and infiltrate all the structures of society, requiring that Babylon be totally destroyed.

E. Chronological Section #5 (Rev. 19-20). Jesus’ triumphal entry into Jerusalem (Rev. 19:11-21:8).
Angelic Explanation #5 (Rev. 21-22). The restoration of all things, Acts 3:21, (Rev. 21:9-22:5).


50 posted on 01/23/2024 10:42:59 PM PST by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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To: Seven_0

As an example of this structure, look at how the description of what John sees in Rev. 11:19 is recapitulated in 15:5 (temple standing open and The Ark in Heaven visible) BEFORE The outpouring of Wrath, and in 16:18-21 (flashes of lightning, roaring, crashes of thunder, an earthquake, and a great hailstorm) as the Seventh Bowl is poured out.

If you drew it out in outline form, the 7 Bowls of Wrath in ch16 would be bullet points under the 7th Trumpet from ch11.

Now, as to the time this takes, consider:
The 3rd Bowl of Wrath ruins ALL of the remaining drinkable fresh water on the Earth.

>in your head you hear a timer start ticking<

Human beings can’t sustain beyond about 3 days without fresh water, but entire armies are in the field in ch19 as Christ breaks through the sky, and these armies still feel that they have the vigor to try and mount a fight against Jesus.

This STRONGLY hints that the timespan between Rev. 16:4 and Rev. 19:19 almost certainly must be less than 3 days. Any longer than that and the lack of water would have just about everyone entirely done in; there’d be nobody left able to stand on their feet to oppose the Returning Christ.

Hope that blesses you.


51 posted on 01/23/2024 11:05:53 PM PST by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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To: HKMk23

——>Where the plain sense makes sense seek no other sense.

Take Daniel 7:25 for example...

Can’t be literal days because the Little Horn comes out of the 4th beast, Pagan Rome, already divided into 10 kingdoms (Barbarian tribes), and lasts until the second coming of Christ.


52 posted on 01/24/2024 3:21:04 AM PST by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Great catch! Timely? Most definitely.


53 posted on 01/24/2024 5:10:25 AM PST by EliRoom8
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To: HKMk23

For your consideration is a SDA authored article exactly on point. I’m also reviewing a few more which I’ll share the links to.

The 1290 and 1335 Days Made Plain
April 3, 2001
Gary Gibbs

http://www.historicism.org/Documents/Gibbs1290.pdf


54 posted on 01/24/2024 6:38:18 AM PST by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: HKMk23

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Where is there any such similarly given paradigm equating a “day” with a year? Off the top of my head I don’t recall.
......

Psalm 90:4
For a thousand years in your sight are but as yesterday when it is past, or as a watch in the night.

2 Peter 3:8
But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Hosea 6:2
After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will raise us up, that we may live before him.

If a day can equal 1,000 years, it can also equal 1 year.

3 1/2 days can equal 3,500 years according to the bible.

It most certainly can also equate 3 1/2 years= 1260 days= 42 months

He is the Creator of time and can make 1 day equal to 1,000 years, He can make 1 day = 1 year..

We can do the math and know that 1,260 days doesn’t in fact, equal an exact 3 1/2 years or exactly 42 months.

So,does it mean that He will change the 365 year to a 360 at the end or are they symbolic of time that is more than just literal days on a Babylonian calendar?

1260,1290,1335 have prophetic meaning to His calendar in a way Babylonian calendar does not and maybe not for literal days, but for what occurs on day 1260,1290,and 1335 if one tells time in one way.

The difference between 1260 and 1290 is a month, and the difference between 1290 and 1335 45 days.

If one knows when to begin, 1260 and 1290 and 1335 actually land on appointments He taught Israel.
Or,to put another way,one appointment leads to another appointment a month later, which leads to another appointment 45 days later..

Knowing what each of those numbers equate to on His calendar appointments,one gets a clue as to what may happen on those days in the future,the last one being a day that begins a particular Feast.

Just as 42 months on Babylon’s calendar equates to about 43 months on His calendar, maybe the 42 is a clue to who the true enemy is at the end times.

When one sees Rome as the end times Beast in Daniel, maybe the Papacy and its Pope Gregory calendar isn’t the best way to tell prophetic time in the end times..

If one buys today is False God Woden’s day, maybe they aren’t ready to buy and sell what today is to the Creator of days, weeks,months and years that have zero to do with Babylon’s time..

Sometimes time is detailed as days,weeks,months, years.
Sometimes time is detailed in cubits, like about 2,000.
Sometimes time is detailed in swine, like about 2,000.

About 2,000 years ago, His Death,Burial and Resurrection began a count down to the end of an age.

He came two days early, before the time of the end. Before Satan’s Legion of 6,000 years were legally up.

These last about 2,000 years are distance from the Ark and filled with doctrines of swine flesh that is illegal to eat and touch, spiritually.

Does the Church know that about 2,000 demon possessed swine equals about 2,000 years?

The Bible is full of measurements that can equate to time hidden in natural literal measurements.
It can also equate days with years. Cubits with years, baths in years, showing time in any number of literal and symbolic ways that can show His plan on levels that we may not fully comprehend this side of the Kingdom.

Two cock crows only in Mark may just be 2 cock crows, or..

A day delay in Mark’s version where He cleanses the temple may just be He returned and cleansed the temple twice, or.

A two day delay in Luke’s version of the Mount of Transfiguration may just mean He and His disciples went two days later, or..


55 posted on 01/24/2024 8:09:04 AM PST by delchiante
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To: Philsworld

Can’t be literal days IF the 4th Beat really IS Rome, as I’m well aware that many have opined.

HERE’S WHERE I start to not to be able to buy into that idea:
IF the 4th Beast is Rome, we have a problem, because Daniel gives that 4th Beast a peculiar description that does not fit. Among all that Daniel says about this 4th Beast, he takes particular note that, “It was different from all the beasts that came before it..”
— Dan. 7:24

I think we really have to ask “Why does Daniel make a point of saying this?”

I think we have to recognize that the prior beasts were all the same kind of thing in such a way that this 4th Beast stands out as totally unique among them; it’s “Sesame Street” in Bible Prophecy, and “One of these things is NOT like the others. One of these thing just DOESN’T belong.”

The 4th Beast is REALLY THAT DIFFERENT.

Daniel’s language has that sort of heft to it.

Each of the first three beasts, though they differed from each other as kingdoms among men always do — size, strength, laws, character, etc — were still all conquering geopolitical powers in the world of men; they were all of the same sort of thing.

So, Daniel 7:24 cannot simply be noting “here’s yet another power in the world that differs from the earlier kingdoms in the same way they differed from one another.” The fact that Daniel notes it so specifically begs to correlate with a unique and substantive aspect in which the 4th Beast differs from ALL priors.

I think this intensely dissuades from naming just one more geopolitical power as the 4th Beast. Even given the prominence of the Roman Empire, at the day’s end it’s just another kingdom among those of men. Yes, Rome was really great in the Earth, but there’s nothing about it that’s so strikingly unique that readily fits with the Prophet pointedly calling the difference to our attention.

All that to say, because Daniel notes specifically that the 4th Beast is different from the prior beasts, I think we need to expect it to be REMARKABLY, STRIKINGLY different; of an utterly different nature than the others, like it’s NOT another geopolitical power, not just another strong, conquering nation, but some sort of system that gains global reach, and subsumes the sovereignty of all nations; maybe an Islamofascist Caliphate, or perhaps a medico-bureaucratic authoritarian entity.

Daniel has me convinced the 4th Beast is THAT substantively different.


56 posted on 01/24/2024 9:06:04 AM PST by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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To: delchiante

OK. Stop the press.

YES, God CAN, because He’s God, architect this however He wants.

But reading the Biblical text what we SEE is that He’s TELLING us what it is that He’s doing.

He CAN do ANYTHING, but Hes telling us, “I’m doing THIS:” and He lays out specifics.

Psalm 90:4 DOES NOT establish a Prophetic definition of a “day” in the same way God establishes the Sabbath Year conception of “Weeks of Years.”

You can’t project that onto that verse; that’s eisegesis - reading INTO the text what isn’t there, and we don’t do that; it’s verbotenland.

Likewise 2 Peter 3 citing Psalm 90:4 only calls us to the unequivalence of our time with God’s time; what we call “a long time” is not “a long time” to him.

Hosea 6:2
After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will raise us up, that we may live before him.

That’s a conception of the resurrection of all who are of Israel embodied in the resurrection of Christ who was raised up on the third day.

That’s St. Paul in I Corinthians 15:
“20...Christ has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead also came through a man. 22 For just as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.”
— I Cor. 15:20-22

And that’s just the kernel of it; read all of I Cor. 15:12ff down to the end of the chapter as Paul explains that resurrection from the dead is a present reality in Christ and a future reality for all who are his.

All the rest is speculation drifting in a sea of human imagining, untethered to any specific text, so I cannot give it countenance.

But the form of your speculations does do this much: it illustrates how our confidence in God can be rapidly vaporized when we depart from due Berean faithfulness to the light that we have in the text of The Bible. If we ascribe an allegorical reading to things that are not given as such, the entirety of scripture can be made inscrutable, and we can forge a false license to have The Bible say any and every thing we instantaneously desire to make it say.

This is anathema.


57 posted on 01/24/2024 9:35:22 AM PST by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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To: HKMk23

——>Yes, Rome was really great in the Earth, but there’s nothing about it that’s so strikingly unique that readily fits with the Prophet pointedly calling the difference to our attention.

Except for the obvious fact that the Little Horn Antichrist power comes out of it, as an ecclestical, religio-political ruler, and a continuation of Roman power in the Roman Church until the second coming of Christ.

I’d say that fact makes it different/diverse.


58 posted on 01/24/2024 9:46:47 AM PST by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: ping jockey

I think it’s been done with Michael Jackson and Tupac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVUvWOESZLY


59 posted on 01/24/2024 10:00:02 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: ebb tide

You should have so much truth in your posts here.


60 posted on 01/24/2024 10:03:28 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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