Posted on 11/02/2023 1:22:08 AM PDT by spirited irish
The Bible affirms in several places that Jesus Christ is the Creator God. For example, “All things were made through him” [the Word, in Greek ὁ λόgos, = Jesus Christ] (John 1:3), and “For by him [Jesus Christ] all things were created” (Colossians 1:16).
If this is true, we should expect to see some parallelism between what happened at creation and the works of Jesus during his ministry on earth. What do we find?
First let us consider what kind of evidence we are looking for.
Some of the essential and distinctive elements of creation, as revealed in Genesis chapter 1, as well as elsewhere in the Bible, are:
Creation involved the act of God in bringing into being immediately and instantaneously matter which did not previously exist,
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In the beginning was the word.
I believe God has the power to create any way God wants to create ……. I do think man should not believe God is restricted in any manner to one method or another. God can do what God wants to do whenever God wants to do what God does. I cannot comprehend …. God’s methods because I am a lowly human.
Eh? Can God make a rock so big he can’t lift it up? No one created God. He always was and is.
Yes, Jesus is God. The ONE God.
The Big Bang theory does not contradict the concept of a creator God nor indeed of specifically the Christian concept of God.
Without a Creator, there can be no rationale for the laws of science.
Science without God is merely a jumble of disorder.
The answer is found in the athenasian creed. The Word clearly talks about there is the triune God. The Father is not the Son. The Son is not the spirit. But the father, son and spirit are God. God the Father has the work of creation. God the son does the work of salvation and God the spirit the work of sanctification. The trinity is in unity and there is unity in trinity.
It says in John, the only non-synoptical gospel that in the beginning was rhe word and the word made flesh. This notes that God is omnipresent. When viewed with Genesis it also confirms the Father is the creator but the father and son and spirit are present in the words of Genesis 1:26 “Let us create man in our own image.” Foreshadowing and linking the necessity God foresaw of a savior. The entire account of creation (days 1-5) only says God said “let there be….and God saw it was good (first person singular). Only when man is created is there first person pleural (we) confirming that God the father created but the other parts of the trinity (one God three persons) was ever present and is forever present. It must be this way for God becoming man to have been at the work of creation but not taking part in it. It provides the link of Christ’s perfection and as God the Son. The same holds for the holy spirit who proceeds from the father and son for sanctification.
There is a timeline of God revealing his fullness to us. First Creation, then Salvation, then Sanctification. But did Jesus create? No. Jesus refers to His Father on the cross when he cries out Farher forgive them. And again when he says into thy hands I commend my spirit. Distinct entities, but one God.
It is thus blasphemy to hold that Jesus was the creator. The perfect, inerrant word clearly tells us One God, three persons. All three are omnipresent and omniscient, but each has a work. It is an act of faith to believe this.
The Big Bang is a big bust. It is man’s feeble attempt to explain he unexplainable. The universe is steady state and has always been there. The apparent speeding away of far off objects is simply due to a defect in the speed of light. The further away from us, the faster they seem to be going.
If the universe is eternal the law of entropy says it would just be a disorganized neutral soup by now.
It's a mystery!
Your post was good up the point of declaring a possible belief in Christ as the creator a Blasphemy.
Blasphemy, is an insult that shows contempt, disrespect or lack of reverence concerning a deity.
I would not consider the reasoned struggle to understand the nature of the individual elements of our triune God a Blasphemy. The bible clearly states all things were created through Christ.
“Col 1:16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.”
Now as to whether He is was “The Creator” at creation or it was God the Father or a synergy of the triune, that is a respectful debate and I do not see how identifying Christ as the Creator in parallel is a Blasphemy.
Honestly I believe we just do not now enough about God, and may never, to fully understand His creative nature and how it actualizes. But I do not see how it is part of the salvation doctrine nor a Blasphemy to believe Christ can also be part of the process of creation, the Triune is a much greater mystery than I think we realize, so much that we likely cannot even ask the right questions.
It is not blasphemy to hold that Christ was the creator as long as one knows in what manner thru which it was done. If we see Christ and dwell in him then we see and have relations with the Father. The Father’s activities in our matter universe are done through the person of the son and the Holy Spirit. The Father if he were fully expressed would cause heaven and earth to vanish before him(as Revelation states) so it is thru the Son that we have a relationship with the Father and it is thru the son that all things are created. Christ says he sees what the Father does and there-for does what the Father does. Where ever the Wheel of eyes goes so does the servant as per Ezekiel.
Colossians 1:15The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him.
17He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. 18And He is the head of the body, the church; He is the beginning and firstborn from among the dead, so that in all things He may have preeminence. 19For God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in Him, 20and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through the blood of His cross.
The Godhead is Macro-existent and Chronologically Omnipresent as well Omniscient The Father has tied all things together thru the person of Jesus Christ as it pertains for us now in our present reality. It is His spirit that renews our inner man daily.
In short we can’t hardly run into anything the Father has done or has willed to do where we don’t find Christ himself, or thru the Holy Spirit already in action. They act in unity, three as and in one!
The Big Bang is the creation described in Genesis...
bkmk
Yep - God spoke it all into existence...science can’t explain how all matter was initially concentrated into a single dot that “decided to explode”.
Perhaps that dot didn’t exist until God spoke it and the resultant universe into existence.....
This is what is described in Genesis...
Psalms 33:8Let all the earth fear the LORD; let all the people of the world revere Him. 9For He spoke, and it came to be; He commanded, and it stood firm.
The big bang theory is a big bust. Virtually none of the predictions made about it were found by the James Webb Space Telescope.
I would add that on the cross Jesus bore the results of man’s sin - the first thing man/women recognized was that they were naked - Jesus was crucified naked. The first curse on man was that the land would product thrones and thistles for him - Jesus wore a crown of thorns.
I agree with you totally
Since YESHUA is the word, he most certianl6 spoke creation into being.
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