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Pope Francis: 'I Believe it is Time to Rethink the Concept of a Just War'
Catholic News Agency ^ | 7/1/22 | Courtney Mares

Posted on 07/03/2022 6:12:18 PM PDT by marshmallow

Vatican City, Jul 1, 2022 / 10:26 am In an interview published Friday, Pope Francis said that he believes it is time to rethink the concept of “just war.”

“I believe it is time to rethink the concept of a ‘just war.’ A war may be just, there is the right to defend oneself. But we need to rethink the way that the concept is used nowadays,” Pope Francis said.

“I have said that the use and possession of nuclear weapons are immoral. Resolving conflicts through war is saying no to verbal reasoning, to being constructive. … War is essentially a lack of dialogue.”

The pope spoke in an interview that was conducted on June 20 by Télam, Argentina’s national news agency. A 1-hour video of the interview was published on July 1.

In response to a question about how the lack of dialogue is an aggravating factor in the current state of world affairs, the pope said that there is “an entire infrastructure of arms sales” that supports war today.

“A person who knew about statistics told me, I don't remember the numbers well, that if weapons were not manufactured for a year, there would be no hunger in the world,” he said.

Pope Francis described how he cried during visits to war cemeteries in Europe, including the Redipuglia World War I memorial and Anzio World War II cemetery in Italy.

“And when the anniversary of the landing in Normandy was commemorated, I thought of the 30,000 boys who were left dead on the beach. They opened the boats and said, ‘get off, get off,’ they were ordered while the Nazis waited for them. Is that justified? Visiting military cemeteries in Europe helps one realize this,” he said

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TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Theology
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; antipope; banglist; bidenvoters; heretic; hypocrite; nra; romancatholicism; secondamendment
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To: marshmallow

Is this pope on tiktok? If not, he should be. Would be a great platform for his deep thinking.


21 posted on 07/03/2022 7:06:32 PM PDT by FLNittany
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To: marshmallow

Instead I think we should rethink the concept of Papal infallibility.

CC


22 posted on 07/03/2022 7:07:18 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: marshmallow

“And when the anniversary of the landing in Normandy was commemorated, I thought of the 30,000 boys who were left dead on the beach. They opened the boats and said, ‘get off, get off,’ they were ordered while the Nazis waited for them. Is that justified? Visiting military cemeteries in Europe helps one realize this,” he said


This babble, is his understanding, of the historical significance of the Normandy invasion? Really? is this guy full of (%^$^^%), is he demented, is he ($&#&&$*)??

So what is he saying? That we should not have launched the Normandy invasion, because there were certain to be casualties in the invasion? What about his “just war” theory? Is he saying World War II was an unjust war, and that fighting back was an unjust action on the part of the Allies? What in the sam hill is this (%&^&&*&) talking about?


23 posted on 07/03/2022 7:09:25 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: marshmallow

I think it’s time to rethink the goofy Popey idea.


24 posted on 07/03/2022 7:09:57 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (First, they stole our elections. Then, they stole our country.)
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To: marshmallow

Yes, we have a new Rock Star!


25 posted on 07/03/2022 7:10:32 PM PDT by sasquatch
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To: maro

“Those who beat their swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who kept their swords.”

-Benjamin Franklin.

CC


26 posted on 07/03/2022 7:11:06 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: marshmallow

Says a guy who lives behind walls and has guards.

Yes let’s are go hippy dippy, smoke dope and sing kumbya.


27 posted on 07/03/2022 7:15:14 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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To: marshmallow

his predecessors thought it a just war to fight the Moslems in Jerusalem ...


28 posted on 07/03/2022 7:29:39 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: marshmallow

If there were no guns we would all live in a land of gumdrop trees and chocolate rivers.

BS.

This is a retards view of life whose never had to actually work to obtain his own bread.


29 posted on 07/03/2022 7:31:24 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: marshmallow

“...War is essentially a lack of dialogue...”

If only the Jews would have had more dialogue with Hitler and Himmler, the Holocaust would never have happened.

This Pope is truly an idiot. He is not naïve, he is a full blown idiot.


30 posted on 07/03/2022 7:44:59 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Pope Francis, serves at all our peril.

Clearly, the brilliant content and teachings from Pope Leo XIII encyclical — Rerum Novarum, did not take hold: https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_15051891_rerum-novarum.html


31 posted on 07/03/2022 7:52:28 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Fido969

No but would the Holy Spirit have allowed Paul to use it if war were always evil?

Would the words of the returning Christ be compared to a sharp two-edged executioners sword if that was evil?

The Bible is not a book of peace. The peace of God is only achieved through conflict and war against evil


32 posted on 07/03/2022 7:54:50 PM PDT by Fai Mao
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To: marshmallow

No, its not. And once agaon, the pope proves he is not Catholic.


33 posted on 07/03/2022 7:54:52 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: marshmallow

Was he not all in for this Ukraine/Russia conflict? Perhaps seeing the error of his ways on that issue, and he is replete with errors as the head of the Catholic Church. In fact, I doubt very seriously that he is a true believer of the church at all.


34 posted on 07/03/2022 7:59:22 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: marshmallow

Actually it is time to rethink the Catholic Church without Francis. Call it rooting out evil


35 posted on 07/03/2022 8:00:09 PM PDT by dirtymac ( Now Is The Time For All Good Men To ComeTo The Aid Of Their Country! NOWhx) )
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To: ConservativeInPA
Maybe the Pope should adopt the neocon/mccain/cheney view:

No Peace. Just War.

36 posted on 07/03/2022 8:13:01 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Huh?


37 posted on 07/03/2022 8:21:26 PM PDT by mcshot (If we're the best of the bunch we're in trouble.)
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To: marshmallow

Well no $&@? Your holiness. War is the lack of dialog or is it another from of dialog when those that only respect physical power “come to Jesus (or insert other religious figure here)” when their ass is kicked. I always pray that the a can of whoopass is not needed for differences in position and reasonable terms can be reached. However, the latest pope is a (insert pejorative here) to assume that the church will get along with every body. I know he really, really wants a more perfect world that believers, nonbelievers, and apostates can all get along but the real world just smacks him with a shovel in the head with his hands in front of his face.


38 posted on 07/03/2022 8:22:15 PM PDT by Liaison (TANSTAAFL)
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To: FLNittany

Now that’s a deep cut.


39 posted on 07/03/2022 8:26:20 PM PDT by mcshot (If we're the best of the bunch we're in trouble.)
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To: marshmallow
“And when the anniversary of the landing in Normandy was commemorated, I thought of the 30,000 boys who were left dead on the beach. They opened the boats and said, ‘get off, get off,’ they were ordered while the Nazis waited for them. Is that justified? Visiting military cemeteries in Europe helps one realize this,” he said

Is that justified? Damn right it's justified. Most of the World War II men are dead of old age now... but if those who died on the beaches hadn't bothered, we'd be speaking German today and living in fear for our lives. Sometimes you stand up to evil...and it's 'justified'...

40 posted on 07/03/2022 8:36:16 PM PDT by GOPJ (MAGA POWER - - President Trump's endorsement record is 144-10)
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