Marjorie Taylor Greene: I Was Raised Catholic, but Wicked Bishops Have ‘Driven Me Away’ from the Church

LifeSite News ^ | 5/4/22 | Claire Chretien

[aMorePerfectUnion]

-> Are you just afraid of the truth that the PTR theory came directly from the Jesuit lie of Futurism?

The SAD is not the source I go to for truth.

They believe an unfallen race of tall people frolic on Jupiter.

[MHGinTN]

Jesus told His disciples, where two or more are gathered in my name, there am I int he midst of them. And your religious cult would have us believe He is there to give them asnack. You haven't a clue how it is that Jesus REALLY is in the midst when two or more are gathered in His name.

There is an idiomatic expression that could help you to begin to understand: 'out of the midst', when the Essenes referred to the translation of Elijah and the taking of Enoch, and the ... well that should be enough to get you started anyway. Jesus came into their midst in the upper room, as hint.

[Elsie]

And I have not employed John 6 at all... yet

Then can I do it?

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John 6:25-40

²⁵ When they found him on the other side of the lake, they asked him, “Rabbi, when did you get here?”

²⁶ Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, you are looking for me, not because you saw the signs I performed but because you ate the loaves and had your fill. ²⁷ Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him God the Father has placed his seal of approval.”

 

²⁸ Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”   (direct question)

²⁹ Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”   (direct answer)

 

³⁰ So they asked him, “What sign then will you give that we may see it and believe you? What will you do? ³¹ Our ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written: ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’^[c]”

³² Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. ³³ For the bread of God is the bread that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”

³⁴ “Sir,” they said, “always give us this bread.”

³⁵ Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. ³⁶ But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. ³⁷ All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. ³⁸ For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. ³⁹ And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. ⁴⁰ For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

 

[Elsie]

Just one, but still loaded.

[Mark17]

With that track record for dissembling, what comes next? Mary idolatry?

LOL. A rhetorical question, I assume, since they have been doing Mary Idolatry for centuries.
As you know, worship of the queen of Heaven, started with Nimrod, his wife Semiramis, and Tammuz the son, the unholy trinity. I don’t know if Nimrod was a proper name, or maybe it was a title, or job description. I don’t know who killed Nimrod. It might have been Shem. When God confused the languages, at the Tower of Babel, the people scattered, but they took the worship of Semiramis with them. Other names, in different languages, and cultures, were Isis, Demeter, Astarte, Diana (of the Ephesians) I don’t know if the Israelis actually had a name for the queen of Heaven, but maybe it was Astarte.
Now, of course, the pagan worship of the queen of Heaven, is Mary. It’s part idolatry, it’s part necromancy, and it’s 💯% evil. I am glad I gave it up.
PS: the sign of the cross, was T for Tammuz, and his symbol, was the evergreen 🌲 tree (Christmas tree)

[Elsie]

Why would St. Paul confuse his converts in this way?

 

That's a darned good question!!

 

  2 Peter 3:16 niv
He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

[Elsie]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why bring this confusion into the Church then - as he clearly refers to Jesus' tradition and teaching that repeats the drinking of the Blood of Christ- and do this OFTEN....

 

Sure HE does.

 

 

 

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/is-baptism-really-necessary

 

 Paul.   Isn't that the fella that doesn't seem to care too much for baptism?   

 

 

 

1 Corinthians 1:14-17

 

 ¹⁴ I thank God that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, ¹⁵ so no one can say that you were baptized in my name. ¹⁶ (Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don’t remember if I baptized anyone else.) ¹⁷ For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel—not with wisdom and eloquence, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.

 

1 Corinthians 1:14-17

[Elsie]

Why did St. Paul call the Lord's Supper - "The Blood of Christ" if it was paganesque to drink Blood?

Good question!

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Too bad it is slightly askew.

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In 1 Corinthians 10:16, Paul referred to the drink used at Communion as "participation in the blood of Christ."

[Philsworld]

What’s truly SAD is that you can’t explain why you follow the teachings of the JESUITS. LOL!

[Mark17]

In 1 Corinthians 10:16, Paul referred to the drink used at Communion as "participation in the blood of Christ."

So, let me see if I got this right. Jesus said, “do this in remembrance of me.” I am really going out on a limb here, and I will interpret what He meant. What Jesus really meant was, do this in remembrance of me. Would I be correct in assuming He didn’t mean eat his body and drink his blood? That would be false doctrine.

[wardaddy]

Biggest Catholic haters here are ex

Jews do the same to each other

[Elsie]

Where have you been for 530 replies?

[Luircin]

Bla bla bla “catholic haters” bla bla bla.

If Catholics really follow the golden rule, then why are they complaining that we’re treating them the same way that they treat us?

[Luircin]

I don’t agree with you there, but hey, I already made my position clear upthread and I’ll just stand back for any further arguing because there’s really no point to it in my POV.

[Mark17]

I don’t agree with you there, but hey, I already made my position clear upthread and I’ll just stand back for any further arguing because there’s really no point to it in my POV.

We can agree, to disagree on this issue, but I agree with you, that it isn’t worth arguing about. I rarely do. I will, however, argue the plan of salvation. The Catholic plan of salvation, is a false plan of salvation.

[wardaddy]

I’m not Catholic

I just don’t hate them

But having watched it a lot here it’s for sure ex Catholics here who do most

[wardaddy]

In ukraine metaphorically

[MHGinTN]

Could it be that you are mistaking our hating the doctrine of the Catholic cult but not hating the poor souls trapped therein? Catholicism as we have it now is not Christianity, though they, the adherents to that religion, demand that we who are not of that other religion accept their religion as The one true. For the sake of defending the Gospel of Grace I oppose that religion.

[MurphsLaw]

Your religion turned into a cult, rife with paganism. The earliest church fathers were not so disposed. But it is typical of a cult member to make many fallacy moves, like the undistributed middle, etc.

Yes- I was turning your thinking back around on you –
I don’t think it is uncharitable- or – fallacious- it’s just that you’re not thinking critically.
If the earliest Church Fathers held the belief of The Body of Christ in the Eucharist- WHERE did this thinking come from?
I’m not making so much an evidential point here- as it is that I want to know how it came about- as best as we can know.
Forget what happens later- Constantine turning it into a cult or whatever…
I want to know how Ignatius and Justin Martyr came to hold these beliefs so early in Christian theology.
Can you help?

[MurphsLaw]

Jesus told His disciples, where two or more are gathered in my name, there am I int he midst of them. And your religious cult would have us believe He is there to give them asnack. You haven't a clue how it is that Jesus REALLY is in the midst when two or more are gathered in His name.

A snack...
Ironically- in my little faith journey- I came to believe first hand in exactly what you say here about a “snack”, and am in total agreement.
Years ago, I was visiting a brother who left the Catholic Church after he had moved to Florida. It was Sunday and I got invited to go to their “service”. So I was like, “yeah sure why not” - I was done with the Church by then myself but not really doing anything about Faith. Don't remember the faith or church name was but it was Christian- A small converted building with a stage and Chairs- maybe about 40-50 people.
The preacher wore a white- three pc suit, which was kind of different from the get go, and he was all over that stage, saying all kinds of good things about Jesus.
Then at some point- these ladies were walking around with trays of little white cups and saltine crackers. And that’s exactly what came to mind as you wrote…The Preacher had been speaking for a while…
and in that split second I’m thinking like hey Snack time ?
Oh… quickly I caught on that this was “their” Communion… Well, I went along of course- asked no questions. Looking back, it was one of the silliest things I can ever remember. Saltines? Welch’s grape juice (which I like a lot) – these were ordinary things found in the cupboard. I’m sure at that time I did not think it to be a bad thing- but just something quite different than kneeling on the Altar, at the foot of the Crucifix, receiving the Eucharist. But it did not seem special.
It seemed like…. a snack.

As a fan of Flannery O’Connor’s work – I hold very deeply to her thinking- in a profound quote as she responded to when she was asked about the Real Presence in the Eucharist- she replied-
“IF IT IS ONLY A SYMBOL- TO HELL WITH IT THEN…”
Of course, she is spot on. Its an “all or nothing” deal. And it seems to have been that way from the start

here is an idiomatic expression that could help you to begin to understand: 'out of the midst', when the Essenes referred to the translation of Elijah and the taking of Enoch, and the ... well that should be enough to get you started anyway. Jesus came into their midst in the upper room, as hint.

Well, my first response to that would be to say that Jesus is much more than a Prophet, and is his purpose for the New Covenant a much more shared, personal one. I will look into that no doubt- the Essene stuff is just awesome- to easily overlooked. And I want to know more about that.
You should read Dr. Bergsma’s book by the way.