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To: MurphsLaw
Jesus told His disciples, where two or more are gathered in my name, there am I int he midst of them. And your religious cult would have us believe He is there to give them asnack. You haven't a clue how it is that Jesus REALLY is in the midst when two or more are gathered in His name.

There is an idiomatic expression that could help you to begin to understand: 'out of the midst', when the Essenes referred to the translation of Elijah and the taking of Enoch, and the ... well that should be enough to get you started anyway. Jesus came into their midst in the upper room, as hint.

522 posted on 05/19/2022 3:23:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN
Jesus told His disciples, where two or more are gathered in my name, there am I int he midst of them. And your religious cult would have us believe He is there to give them asnack. You haven't a clue how it is that Jesus REALLY is in the midst when two or more are gathered in His name.

A snack...
Ironically- in my little faith journey- I came to believe first hand in exactly what you say here about a “snack”, and am in total agreement.
Years ago, I was visiting a brother who left the Catholic Church after he had moved to Florida. It was Sunday and I got invited to go to their “service”. So I was like, “yeah sure why not” - I was done with the Church by then myself but not really doing anything about Faith. Don't remember the faith or church name was but it was Christian- A small converted building with a stage and Chairs- maybe about 40-50 people.
The preacher wore a white- three pc suit, which was kind of different from the get go, and he was all over that stage, saying all kinds of good things about Jesus.
Then at some point- these ladies were walking around with trays of little white cups and saltine crackers. And that’s exactly what came to mind as you wrote…The Preacher had been speaking for a while…
and in that split second I’m thinking like hey Snack time ?
Oh… quickly I caught on that this was “their” Communion… Well, I went along of course- asked no questions. Looking back, it was one of the silliest things I can ever remember. Saltines? Welch’s grape juice (which I like a lot) – these were ordinary things found in the cupboard. I’m sure at that time I did not think it to be a bad thing- but just something quite different than kneeling on the Altar, at the foot of the Crucifix, receiving the Eucharist. But it did not seem special.
It seemed like…. a snack.

As a fan of Flannery O’Connor’s work – I hold very deeply to her thinking- in a profound quote as she responded to when she was asked about the Real Presence in the Eucharist- she replied-
“IF IT IS ONLY A SYMBOL- TO HELL WITH IT THEN…”
Of course, she is spot on. Its an “all or nothing” deal. And it seems to have been that way from the start

here is an idiomatic expression that could help you to begin to understand: 'out of the midst', when the Essenes referred to the translation of Elijah and the taking of Enoch, and the ... well that should be enough to get you started anyway. Jesus came into their midst in the upper room, as hint.

Well, my first response to that would be to say that Jesus is much more than a Prophet, and is his purpose for the New Covenant a much more shared, personal one. I will look into that no doubt- the Essene stuff is just awesome- to easily overlooked. And I want to know more about that.
You should read Dr. Bergsma’s book by the way.


540 posted on 05/20/2022 10:52:30 AM PDT by MurphsLaw (If their purpose is of human origin, it will fail.But if from God, you will not be able to stop them)
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