Posted on 07/16/2021 8:20:43 AM PDT by ebb tide
The long-rumored Motu Proprio of Francis the Infelicitous restricting the Traditional Latin Mass was finally issued and it doesn’t disappoint – that is, if you’re like me and welcome anything that makes it more difficult for the sincerely blind to deny the reality that Jorge Bergoglio, far from being Holy Father, is an enemy of the Catholic faith.
Here, I will get straight to the highlights. I’ll have more to say on smaller details later.
Without even surfing the web for headlines, I’m rather ceratain that the big story as reported by most in Catholic media will be Francis abrogates Summorum Pontificum!
Indeed, he has:
Art. 8. Previous norms, instructions, permissions, and customs that do not conform to the provisions of the present Motu Proprio are abrogated.
As expected, however, the Devil is in the details (as well as in the Vatican). The real story here is that Jorge Bergoglio is “abrogating” (to the extent that a non-Catholic posing as a pope can do anything) the Traditional Roman Rite itself. Yes, you read that correctly:
Art. 1. The liturgical books promulgated by Saint Paul VI and Saint John Paul II, in conformity with the decrees of Vatican Council II, are the unique expression of the lex orandi of the Roman Rite.
Pay close attention: unique expression…
According to the “pope” of the counterfeit church, there is only one form of the Roman Rite – the earthbound, man-centered, Novus Ordo.
So, what does that make the Mass of Ages?
It makes it not the Roman Rite. From this point forward in the conciliar church, it’s not even an “Extraordinary Form” of the Roman Rite, rather, it’s no rite of that church at all.
That’s called abrogation, folks.
Even so, there will be many deniers of the obvious. Let’s consider some of their objections.
But he never says, I hereby abrogate the Latin Mass!
I genuinely pity the poor fool who seeks shelter in this childish excuse. The Evil One and his minions don’t operate that way. The Devil is a liar and a deceiver, cunning at maneuvering in the shadows to avoid discovery, poisoning the naive in unexpected ways.
Even so, in his letter to bishops accompanying the Motu Proprio, Bergoglio states:
I take comfort in this decision from the fact that, after the Council of Trent, St. Pius V also abrogated all the rites that could not claim a proven antiquity, establishing for the whole Latin Church a single Missale Romanum.
Again, pay close attention: “also abrogated all the rites.” In other words: My predecessor abrogated certain rites. I’m abrogating just one, the Traditional Roman Rite!
Still, the deniers will object:
But he will still allow it to be celebrated even if restricted!
OK, but exactly what is “it”? Answer: Not the Roman Rite but rather the former Roman Rite that is presently abrogated.
You see, for Bergoglio, this is like granting highly restricted, temporary permission for the faithful to participate in any non-Catholic rite.
This is the same guy who welcomed Pachamama idol worship into the Vatican! Does anyone really think that limited tolerance of the TLM until such time as it is fully banished from the dioceses bothers him? Of course not, it’s something he’ll put up with, but only for a time. His letter to the bishops makes this clear:
…those who are rooted in the previous form of celebration and need to return in due time to the Roman Rite promulgated by Saints Paul VI and John Paul II. [Emphasis added]
You know the drill, pay attention: need to return… It’s not optional.
Sure, the pseudo-trads and neo-cons will initially express outrage at the death of Summorum Pontificum, followed by concern for the future, followed by hope for the future, followed by pep talks about how the faithful must soldier on in spite of these persecutions that Christ is allowing at the hands of His Vicar. What a mystery!
In short, many of them will shuck and jive their rear ends off in order to deny the plain reality of the matter: The man that they call “Pope Francis” has just officially abrogated the Traditional Latin Mass from the conciliar church over which he rules.
The reason they will twist themselves into knots denying this reality is because to acknowledge it is to acknowledge some difficult truths. For instance, how often has it been said “the TLM was never abrogated!” as if this supported the preposterous notion that the conciliar counterfeit church really is the one true Church of Christ, in spite of its corrupt faith and morals.
But there’s an even bigger, more uncomfortable truth staring the deniers in the face, if only they would open their eyes.
Any putative pope that would move to abrogate the Mass of Ages cannot be but an antipope. It’s time to acknowledge reality: Jorge Bergoglio isn’t a Catholic of any rank, much less is he the Vicar of Christ.
The people who thought they were faithful Catholics under the Pre-Vatican-II catechism, have to realize that they are really just faithful Christians, with a direct connection to Jesus that can not be broken by any man.
. People will search for Jesus but they will not find him in the Catholic Church, he will be found elsewhere.
e elders of Rome — of the whole city, not a single congregation — elected a bishop to lead the local church, as did the elders in other towns. The epistles of Ignatius are very clear on that.
I remember it being said that Benedict would be the second to last pope according to some sort of prophecy. If true, the current heretic in charge at the Vatican will be the last pope.
So, when He promised that "Wherever two or three of you are gathered together in my Name, there I am in the midst of them" - He lied?
Are you saying there was more than one congregation in Rome? Back that up. There was one congregation in Rome and it’s first bishop/Elder/pastor was Linus.
Gotta get it done before he becomes incapacitated or takes the big dirt nap. At that point the libtards will have lost control until they can get a new subversive in place.
Serious question: If Ben16 outlives this guy, does that have any impact?
As I said when this pope was elected, “this is a disaster!”
No. The only impact would be the unlikely scenario that Benedict starts making statements on these matters, and that would be unofficial, but definitely influential. He rightly considers that his retirement means he will not participate in anything that divides the Church.
Since Vatican II was a pastoral and not a dogmatic Council, there were no anathemas promulgated (at least none that I can find). The Novus Ordo was the Extraordinary mass coming out of the Council.
So, given the wishy-washy of documents coming out of VII and the very specific language from the Council of Trent with respect to the mass, are the anathemas from Trent still in effect?
People will find Jesus but not in the catholic church once Bergoglio gets through with his fundamental change of the catholic church.
The church has survived bad popes before. It will survive this turd.
No where to be found?
Jesus, the second person of the Holy Trinity is everywhere just as the Father and the Holy Spirit.
If the Latin Mass goes underground the Trinity will be there, and will be found by everyone present.
In the Catholic Church.
Actually, If I recall correctly, there is a specific New Testament passage of a prediction by Jesus himself I am alluding to. I may be mis remembering
Actually, If I recall correctly, there is a specific New Testament passage of a prediction by Jesus himself I am alluding to. I may be mis remembering
Of course, wherever and whenever two or more people are gathered in his name, Jesus will be there. In a way, that is kind of hint regarding his comment above
Not sure what your comment means.
I’m an extreme latitudinarian Christian, and I hate the Catholic-Protestant pissing contests here. I think you have to play inside the four corners of the Gospel - you can’t dodge Mark 9:38-42, Matthew 16:18, or John 6:53-56, those are direct instructions from the Boss, but I accept that there are different human understandings of them that lead to divisions.
If you are trying to understand Him and trying to follow Him, then you are my brother in Christ.
If your understanding takes you to sodomy and baby-killing, I can’t see you on the team.
May I say how refreshing it for somebody here to admit to latitudinarianism. The unremitting dualism on this site, on whatever subject, even the most trivial, does get tiring.
TLM bump
When I was younger and someone asked a question with an obvious No answer, a common response was “Is the pope Polish?
Then JPII came along, and it was switched to the even safer “Is the pope Catholic?
Then this pope came along...
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