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Salvation is a free gift of God - Have confidence you are saved!
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Posted on 03/31/2021 8:42:15 AM PDT by Teleios Research

Be convinced of these 4 biblical truths: 1. Each of us has sinned; 2. God is just, requiring a punishment for sin; 3. But out of love God sent His Son, Jesus Christ who by dying on the cross, provided forgiveness of sins in taking man’s deserved punishment; 4. Therefore, by faith alone in Christ’s sacrifice for our sins and belief in His resurrection, man can gain eternal life. (Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 10:9-10, Romans 3:21-26)


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: christianity; gospel; salvation
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To: ADSUM
“The Virgin has told us:
The world continues the same...That it has not changed at all. FEW WILL SEE GOD. They are so few that it causes The Virgin much Sorrow.

So according to the ghost of mary, most Catholics didn't/don't make it to purgatory...Including a large number of its 'ordained' clergy....

So Mary says your religion is pretty much a failure...Most of the Catholics who were baptized as babies and eat Jesus are still going to hell...And the crazy thing is, you live your life as a devoted Catholic and never do find out if you go to purgatory or hell...Yet you want the rest of us to join you...

361 posted on 04/04/2021 1:10:28 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

Jesus and the Blessed Mother want all to join them in Heaven, but we must accept all the teachings of Jesus, and reject our own man-made beliefs and sinful ways.

It is not God or the Catholic faith that has failed.

Individuals have accepted the ways of the world and Satan and rejected God and His revealed Truths. Yes some Catholics including clergy are in that group.

We all need to understand our sins, be truly sorry for them, change from our sinful ways, repent and do penance.

We all find out where we go Heaven, Hell or Purgatory based on the judgment from Jesus when we die. Mt 25:31-46

Fundamentalists who believe that Catholics “don’t know if they’re saved or not” are convinced, in the words of James G. McCarthy, former Catholic and author of The Gospel According to Rome, “that Biblical salvation is secure, for it does not depend upon man but upon God.” This thinking fails to distinguish between the promises of God, which are always true and steadfast, and the choices of man, which are not. The object of hope—salvation—remains secure, but the subject of hope—man—can accept, reject, despair, and presume at any time. We don’t possess free will only when we make our initial choice of God’s gift of salvation; the capacity to later reject, deny, or trample it is always with us.

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/an-apologetic-of-hope-0


362 posted on 04/04/2021 2:50:35 PM PDT by ADSUM ( )
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To: ADSUM; Mom MD; Iscool; MHGinTN
We all find out where we go Heaven, Hell or Purgatory based on the judgment from Jesus when we die. Mt 25:31-46

Why do you want to wait till you die, only to wake up in the flames 🔥 of hell? Sounds like a pretty rotten deal to me. If you want to play that game, with your immortal soul, knock yourself out. I am comfortable outside of that line of thinking. 👍 I like having assurance of salvation, even if some think we can’t. I have it. If you don’t, that’s on you bro.

363 posted on 04/04/2021 6:38:48 PM PDT by Mark17 (US Air Force, retired. It was a long 20 years. )
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To: Mark17

We all find out where we go the second we accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. At that very moment we pass from death to Life and are assured of our salvation. Those that don’t believe find out their fate at judgement I suppose. There is no mythical third choice of purgatory.


364 posted on 04/04/2021 6:47:22 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

Amen! Hope you had a blessed Easter as well.

Because Jesus has risen we are assured that “It is finished” and our sins are removed from us as far as the east is from the west. He promised our sins and iniquities will be remembered no more. PTL!


365 posted on 04/04/2021 6:53:38 PM PDT by boatbums (Lord, make my life a testimony to the value of knowing you.)
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To: boatbums

Praise His Holy name forever!


366 posted on 04/04/2021 6:56:31 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mark17
I believe the Nephilim were fathered by fallen angels. If you don’t, that’s fine. We will have to agree to disagree on that.

I disagree; but here is WHY I do:

 
 

Genesis 6:1-8

When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”

The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them. But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.


It does NOT say the GIANTs  mated with the Humans; it merely says they were on the earth.

???

So; just WHO are the sons of God and the daughters of humans???

 

The BOOK says: Let Us create Man in Our image.   So there you get some 'sons of God'; right??

The BOOK also says, in Genesis 5:3-4

 When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.

 

These things happened BEFORE Genesis chapter 6....

 

 


367 posted on 04/04/2021 6:58:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM
I hope you listen instead of mocking the Eucharist (Your comment: Thomas; don’t doubt.Lick your fingers.)

Where's the mocking?

Surely blood from the Source would be MUCH more efficacious than mere wine that theoretically changes into blood when you drink it.

368 posted on 04/04/2021 7:04:37 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM
Since my Message of October 18, 1961 has not been complied with and has not been made much known to the world, I will tell you that this is the last one.

I guess you guys can quit waiting now.

369 posted on 04/04/2021 7:06:07 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM
It is I, Your Mother, who through the intercession of St. Michael, wish to say that you amend,
that you are already in the last warnings and that I love you much and do not want your condemnation.
Ask us sincerely and we will give to you.
 
 
I think I'll pass.

370 posted on 04/04/2021 7:08:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

ok. now you did it. you made Mary mad!


371 posted on 04/04/2021 7:09:40 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Elsie

Funny. My mothers name is Doris


372 posted on 04/04/2021 7:10:38 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: ADSUM
So do you truly accept and understand the Words of God or just the man-made beliefs apparition spoken commands that you have been given?
373 posted on 04/04/2021 7:10:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; MHGinTN; Roman_War_Criminal; metmom; SouthernClaire
Sorry bro. I believe the sons of God, in the Old Testament, ALWAYS referred to angels, whether fallen or unfallen. Even Flavius Josephus accepted that view. It might take 8 hours to explain it all, and I think it’s for another thread.
I have heard all sides, and I accept the fallen angel view. It’s not a salvation issue, so it isn’t that important, but I accept the fallen angel view. If you don’t, so be it bro.
MHG, or RWC, chime in, if you feel led. 😁
374 posted on 04/04/2021 7:15:15 PM PDT by Mark17 (US Air Force, retired. It was a long 20 years. )
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To: Mark17

There are many things we will learn in eternity. I cannot wait until we sit at Jesus feet and learn Scripture directly from Him. Oh to have been on the road to Emmaus!


375 posted on 04/04/2021 7:18:31 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD
Learn from Scripture?

What a concept!


John 20:30-31
 

30 Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. 31 But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

 

The missing verses between 29  and 30 of John 20 have been preserved by Catholic tradition.  I include them here for your edification...

 

"Tom, now that you are a believer, I am leaving my Mom in charge until my return.  I shall be busy in Heaven, preparing that place for you all, so direct any needs and prayers and devotion to her, and she will get my attention from time to time and then I'll take care of things for you.

So, until my return, Endure."

 


376 posted on 04/04/2021 7:21:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM

377 posted on 04/04/2021 7:39:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17
I believe the sons of God, in the Old Testament, ALWAYS referred to angels, whether fallen or unfallen.

Perhaps, but they ain't BEGOTTEN.

There is only One of them.


 It's different in the New...
 

Matt.   5:9    “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.” 
Luke 20:36  “for they cannot even die anymore, because they are like angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.” 
Rom. 8:14   “For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.” 
Rom. 8:19   “For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God.” 
Gal.   3:26   “For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.” 

378 posted on 04/04/2021 7:46:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17; Mom MD

I’m hardly an expert, but I read it as ‘angels’ or demons who are mentioned in Jude 1:6 as leaving their first estate and are now in Tartarus.

The context in Genesis to me states sons of God, not sons of men or sons on man.

I’m also of the belief that we hardly know anything about the pre-flood world. Dinosaur bones clearly point to a flood. And Devil’s Tower in Wyoming might be the stump of a pre-flood tree, there are clearly other things in plain sight that could point to that world that I’m not thinking of.

I agree with Mom Md, to be on the road to Emmaus. One of these days I imagine boring the Lord to death with decades worth of Q’s & A’s. :)


379 posted on 04/04/2021 7:50:18 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Mom MD; Elsie; Iscool
ok. now you did it. you made Mary mad!

She will get over it, mom. There is no doubt Mary was blessed among women, and gave birth to Jesus. It all ends right there. She was not a sinless demigoddess, like the Catholic Church wants us to believe. I don’t accept that, for a second.
In fact, I think when Mary and her children (yes, Mary and Joseph had sexual relations, and had a ton of kids) came to see Jesus, they may have been trying to get Jesus, to stop what he was doing, since it may have been bringing unwanted attention to the family.
Who knows for sure when Mary came to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. It’s possible, though we don’t know for sure, but she may not have even known who Jesus was, till he walked out of the tomb. 🤗 I think the original queen of heaven, was Semiramis, the wife of Nimrod. I think the worship of Nimrod and Semiramis, was widespread at the time of Jesus. Actually, I think it’s still with us today. 😁

380 posted on 04/04/2021 8:02:20 PM PDT by Mark17 (US Air Force, retired. It was a long 20 years. )
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