Posted on 01/02/2021 6:05:47 PM PST by ebb tide
This Sunday, January 3, 2021, is the 500th anniversary of the excommunication of Martin Luther as a heretic and schismatic – the greatest damage ever done to the Holy Catholic Church. He died unrepentant, without the sacraments and outside the One True Church.
Yes, Pope Leo X, who issued the excommunication decree and the previous Exsurge Domine warning (6/15/1520) to Luther, had a mixed record of papal righteousness – but in this event he is nearly unsurpassed and fairly vindicated.
In this writer's view, these documents are two of the most formidable, necessary and courageous decrees emanating from the Chair of Peter, defending the Holy Roman Catholic Church from doctrinal attack. They were subsequently, fully upheld by the Council of Trent – also one of the greatest Councils in Church history – to which we owe very much, especially on the Eucharist!
We still face great danger. With Luther, there was no warning, just 95 absurd theses appearing out of thin air.
Here today, we had a warning in 1917 at Fatima. “Russia will spread her errors throughout the world,” did Our Lady alert the three children and us Catholics.
We feel these effects today – a far more serious warning than Luther. In full deference to Our Lady and the Most Holy Trinity – it is extremely doubtful (despite assertions to the contrary) that the full, correct Consecration to Russia was done; or that the decisive 3rd Secret text was totally revealed.
The errors, it is said, will lead to “The Great Apostasy.” There seems no appetite in the Vatican, at any level, to humbly accept and remedy those grave errors. Rather, a desire to hurtle into the future with Pachamama; Amazon Culture; ecology; and global secular solutions – as moral virtue is completely ignored and vocations and faithful Catholics disappear at record speeds.
Will the Church (and our Country) continue its decline? Will we still continue to receive God’s Divine Mercy and Graces? Are we due for a severe Divine Chastisement?
I am not going to advance an opinion here – only to charitably say, we would all do well to place our own souls in a state of grace, and urge our families, friends and others to do the same.
And Pray. God is very good.
“(Don’t you realize that ALL FR Catholics have voted to impeach YOU?)”
Well then it’s a good thing that I’m tight with the Judge and my Father is the KING.
“[I’d hate to allude to ADSUM as being FR’s Pelosi, but...]”
There’s a saying that might have you covered, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it’s probably a duck, just saying, lol.
I treat a LOT of comments on FR like water off of a ducks back.
And I’ll say it again:
mrobisr: “Because Jesus rebukes Satan, but angels do not!!!”
Me: I agree.
So, you had better look again in Jude 1:9. Michael rebukes Satan. Ergo, Michael is Jesus Christ. I’m glad you finally admitted it.
Me to Elsie: So, do you agree with Mrobisr that a CREATED angel would never rebuke Satan? Only God would? I agree. Or, would you call Mrobisr a CULTIST for believing that? Or is Mrobisr now going to change his statement?
Mrobisr, you can’t have it both ways.
Zech 3:2 “The Lord rebuke you”
Jude 1:9 “The Lord rebuke you”
“Because Jesus rebukes Satan, but angels do not!!!” (famous last words, stick a fork in it, of Mrobisr)
Jesus has many titles that are occupied by created beings, but that does not make them Jesus. Jesus is called a priest, so does that make Aaron Jesus too? Jesus is the anointed one, but so is King David so I guess David is just another name for Jesus. Jesus is also called and Apostle, so are all the apostles Jesus too?
You are trying to defend something that is not in the Bible and I am defending what is in the Bible, so it is easy to see who is assuming and who is not.
mrobisr: “Because Jesus rebukes Satan, but angels do not!!!”
Me: I agree.
So, you had better look again in Jude 1:9. Michael rebukes Satan. Ergo, Michael is Jesus Christ. I’m glad you finally admitted it.
Errr, no!
Jud 1:9 But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, was disputing about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.”
Zechariah 3
1And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.
2And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?
It is CLEARLY Jesus Christ in Zechariah and Jude.
1And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.
2And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?
It is CLEARLY Jesus Christ in Zechariah and Jude.
Oh? Then it appears that Jesus IS angel after all; right?
“As this study shows, according to scriptures, Jesus is the angel of the LORD, the angel of God, the angel of the covenant, the Archangel Michael, who appeared time and again in the Old Testament to speak directly to His people. Michael is just another title for the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who is God in the flesh, the principle messenger of the gospel (archangel) to humanity, but He is not a created being.”
http://aloha.net/~mikesch/michael.htm
In Jude 1:9, we are told that Michael ". . .he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment . . ."
Jesus is GOD. It is NOT presumptuous for Him to directly rebuke Satan!
See my accidental reply to myself. Jude 1:9 actually proves that Michael is NOT Jesus!
In Jude 1:9, we are told that Michael “. . .he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment . . .”
Jesus is GOD. It is NOT presumptuous for Him to directly rebuke Satan!
Jude
9But even the archangel Michael, when he disputed with the devil over the body of Moses, did not presume to bring a slanderous charge against him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”
“I’m glad you finally admitted it.”
The same delusion (satan) that makes you think I admitted anything is the same one that deludes you to think that a created being angel is the eternal GOD Jesus Christ.
“the Archangel Michael”
You keep preaching that false message, but yet can’t show where Jesus is Michael or that the Angel of the LORD is Michael.
Again you are trying to prove something that is not in the Bible and I’m defending something that is in the Bible.
Sorry I forgot to add you since you entered the debat.
Jesus Christ caused Moses to die and then he buried him.
Deut 34:
4And the LORD said unto him, This is the land which I sware unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, saying, I will give it unto thy seed: I have caused thee to see it with thine eyes, but thou shalt not go over thither.
5So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD.
6And he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day.
7And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated.
Jude points out that Christ, i.e. Michael, contends with the devil for the body of Moses. Jesus Christ put Moses in the ground and PERSONALLY buried him and no one except Jesus Christ is going to contend with the devil over that body, JUST LIKE IN ZECHARIAH 3:1-2. “The Lord rebuke thee” It’s EXACTLY the same thing.
Michael the Archangel is ANOTHER TITLE for Jesus Christ.
Like I told you earlier when you tried to put words in my mouth the demons are making you see something that is just not there.
Jesus is GOD in the flesh
Michael is a created angel just as Satan is
God doesn’t contend with Satan He rebukes him, but Michael could NOT rebuke him because they are both created beings.
Accept it your cult is wrong.
Like I told you earlier when you tried to put words in my mouth the demons are making you see something that is just not there.
The only person who put words into your mouth is YOU. You didn’t need any help from me.
I doubt that you would ever see the truth about anything, coming from me, a SDA. You lack wisdom and that is because you are a law breaker. Until you begin to keep the law that Jesus Christ demands of his professed followers, YOU WILL NEVER GET IT. Not ever. You will be made to believe a lie....
2 Thess 2:
10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
The Michael issue is not a salvation issue. But, it’s just one more piece of the puzzle. You STRONGLY disagree and therefore you distance yourself even further from any religion that promotes it as true. And because of that you label all doctrine from that religious affiliation (in this case SDA) as cultish. It is your mistake for assuming that. If you are alive at the end of this earth (and I certainly believe that we are very close to that), I’m pretty sure you will follow all of mainstream Christianity to your doom (because Satan will have duped you).
Maybe you’ll be one of those saying “Lord, Lord, I did this and that in your name” But God will says “I never knew you. Depart from me you worker of lawlessness”
Matthew 7:
21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
Yeah, that word lawlessness. What do you think that means? It probably means breaking God’s law. Right?
I compare verse with verse and the evidence CLEARLY shows that Michael the Archangel is Jesus Christ. No doubt about it.
https://www.endtimes-bibleprophecy.com/is-michael-jesus-bible.html
God gives you the right to believe whatever you want. I could says choose wisely, but that would mean that you have wisdom. So, you have by reason of elimination chosen poorly.
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