Posted on 08/02/2020 4:43:58 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
To answer this question, we invited Billy Crone, the senior pastor of Sunrise Baptist Church in Las Vegas, Nevada, and founder of Get A Life! Ministries, to our television program Christ in Prophecy. Billy covered a number of sensationalist Bible prophecy topics such as UFOs and the Nephilim.
Aliens Unmasked
Nathan Jones: Billy, when it comes to sensationalist Bible prophecy, often we’re talking about UFOs. You’ve done a lot of research into UFOs. Can you explain why you approach UFOs so often in your teachings?
Billy Crone: UFOs were part of my background when I was involved in the occult and New Age before I became saved. In the New Age, one of the big subjects is UFOs and the lie that is going on about them. Quite a lot of sensationalism and deception has been going on with that topic. It’s a topic that we the Church do need to get equipped on because the Scriptures, I believe, give us the answer.
Whether we accept it or not, our world is enthralled with the topic of UFOs and aliens. Right now, just looking at current statistics in the United States of America, more people believe in the existence of UFOs and aliens than they do in the existence of God. More people in the United States of America believe that aliens have visited planet Earth than Jesus is the Son of God.
So many people are obsessed with UFO-ology, because Hollywood has been promoting it. The lie of Evolution sets the foundation for this study. UFO-ology has become the new religion of the 21st Century in our own country. Its adherents believe that aliens are going to save them, not God.
We need to deal with this new religion because our world is being led astray. Plus, the Scriptures say we are to give a defense for the hope that lies within us.
From a biblical perspective, number one, you know that there is something deceptive going on because the very nature and the whole premise of UFOs is built on a lie. It is called the lie of Evolution. When these aliens are supposedly going to show up, they’re expected to say, “We’re a higher, evolved race.”
Stop right there! Evolved? Wait a second. Evolved equals Evolution. Well, Evolution is not true. We were created by God! We didn’t come from the goo, to the zoo, to me and you. No, we came from God, right?
But, the whole alien premise, their whole identity when they supposedly show up on the scene, is a lie. Now, go back to the Scriptures. In John 8, what does Jesus say? “Satan is not only a murderer, and he’s been one since the beginning, he’s a liar, and he’s the father of all lies.” The alien’s claim to evolutionary superiority tells you right out of the gate that you are being deceived.
The other lie aliens are supposed to make, too, is they’ll claim, “We are here to give you some incredible messages, and we’ve come all the way across the universe to give you this important information.” When you look at what they are “sharing,” it’s all about debunking Jesus, the Bible, God, and salvation. These supposed alien visitors claim there is no such thing as sin. They say that we need to combine into a one-world religion and a one-world government. I kid you not! They claim humanity needs to follow a one-world ruler, or we are going to be destroyed. They say that we need to worship Mother Earth.
These alien visitors actually have the audacity to say that Satan is a good guy who has come to free us! Now, excuse me, that is demonic, that is a deception, that is a lie.
Then they say, in order to receive these messages, you have to let them take over a person’s vocal cords, and speak through people with their messages. Stop right there! These aliens are supposed to be this highly evolved, technologically advanced race, much more scientific than we are, for that’s how they supposedly traveled here across the cosmos, right? But then, they cannot communicate to us by just sending a text message or calling us on the phone? I’ll even take an old handwritten letter. Why do they have to take over people’s vocal cords and speak through them?
Folks, that’s demonic possession. That’s exactly what demons do!
I believe the bulk of UFO sightings can be explained by natural experiences. But then, there’s an element that we need to take a look at closely to see what is going on there. Secular guys are confirming that there is one way to get rid of these aliens 100% of the time. When you command them in the name of Jesus Christ to flee, they flee instantly!
One lady I interviewed in Oregon who had this encounter said when she did that, not only did the “aliens” flee out of there, they fled out of there so fast they were tripping over each other. Now, wait a second; who flees in the name of Jesus? That’d be a demon. They didn’t flee due to the name of Mohammed, or Buddha, or Confucius. No, just the name of Jesus Christ.
UFOs to Explain the Rapture
Billy Crone: UFO-ology is leading to the last day’s deception. In order to fall for the lie of UFOs, you first have to fall for the lie of Evolution. This tells you how slowly and methodically the Enemy has been setting up the planet for this great deception. He started back in the 1850’s with Charles Darwin who has now permeated the planet with his Theory of Evolution.
Secondly, Evolution gets some help from Hollywood. They glamorize aliens and UFOs. Everybody then “knows” there must be real live aliens out there. As a matter of fact, you’re considered a wacko for not believing that aliens must be real. Folks, science fiction is leading society to somewhere.
I remember back before I was saved and was immersed in the New Age. I received these so-called “channeled messages” from supposed space aliens. Now that I’m saved, I know that was all demonic. In my documentary, I actually quote these demons who are continually preparing the way to explain away the Rapture of the Church.
The Rapture of the Church is true. The Bible teaches about that soon- coming event. Put yourself, if you will, in the Enemy’s shoes. Soon there will be an event that will occur around the globe where millions of people from all across the planet instantaneously disappear, and they’ll specifically only be Christians. You just can’t spin that baby. You can’t hide that event. So, you better come up with some good excuse.
Think about how slowly and methodically the Enemy has been preparing their lie to explain away the Rapture. It started with Evolution back in the 1850s, and Hollywood has perpetuated it today. All somebody has to do right after the Rapture is stand up on the world scene, maybe somebody even like the pope, and try to reassure people. He may say, “Hey, people! I just want you to know you were right all along. The government has been hiding this truth from you. UFOs and aliens are real. See, that’s why all of these people have disappeared. It was aliens. They beamed all of those Christians up to their ships.”
Nathan Jones: Isn’t that a central tenant of New Age teaching, that when Maitreya returns, after Christians have been taken off this planet, that humanity can at last evolve to their true states without those accursed Christians holding people back?
Billy Crone: That is another one of Satan’s lies. It’s very convenient, I dare say. Think about how much UFOs have permeated the mindset of people. They are going to fall for that excuse for the Rapture lickety-split.
They’ll actually spin the fact that the world has been left behind into a seemingly good thing. Jesus said the seven-year Tribulation will be the worse time in the history of mankind. But, no, these deceivers will spin that being left behind was a blessing. “You are a chosen one. Now you get to be a part of the Age of Utopia as we rebuild the planet in a wonderful time of peace.”
How crazy! After all, the event that starts the seven-year Tribulation will be the Antichrist. As Daniel 9:27 and Revelation 6:1 reveal, this White Horse Rider initiates a false peace. The people will go, “This is true. Look! He made a deal in the Middle East that nobody could do. How amazing! We’ve at last got peace on our planet. Everybody has come together, even religion and government. How amazing! How wonderful!” Nope! You just found yourself left behind in the seven-year Tribulation. It wasn’t UFOs that sucked those people up. That was Jesus Christ coming back to collect His Bride.
Especially in a time of crisis and on such a massive scale, human nature gravitates toward any lame excuse just to maintain one’s sanity. Aliens are not a lame excuse for the Rapture because, with this one, the world is ripe to fall for it.
Nathan Jones: Some people theorize that the Antichrist might arrive claiming that he is an alien, sort of like Superman. I don’t know where they get that, but do you think they may be correct?
Billy Crone: Well, sure. Why not? You’ve got some people who say the Antichrist will be a Muslim. Where in the Bible are they reading that one? The origins of the Antichrist, unfortunately, is often a topic people sensationalize. In doing so, they lead people astray from the biblical teaching. Such a theory may warrant our attention, but stick purely with the Bible.
I’m convinced this fascination with UFOs provides us a great opportunity to witness to the lost. The lost are enthralled with UFOs and aliens, and to me, it provides a fantastic opportunity to share the Gospel with them.
You can view the full interview titled “Sensationalism in Bible Prophecy with Billy Crone” at this link.
Paul wrote of Christ's coming, "Behold, I show you a mystery: we shall not all sleep [die], but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed" (1 Corinthians 15:51,52).
Christ said the dead shall be raised at His coming!
When? At His return; at His coming!
The resurrection does not occur until the moment of Christ's VISIBLE, TUMULTUOUS, POWERFUL, EARTH-SHAKING RETURN!
The Resurrection and
the "Catching Up" of the Saints
Now, notice: "For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them which sleep [are dead] in Jesus will God bring with Him.
"For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent [precede] them which are asleep [are dead].
"For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, and with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
"THEN [and not one second before!] we which are alive [Paul wrote to the church, the saints] and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord" (1 Thessalonians 4:14-18).
Notice that the living saints are not to precede the dead in Christ by so much as a second!
WHEN, then, is the resurrection?
Notice! "But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the Firstfruits of them that slept.
"For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
"For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
"But every man in his own order: Christ the Firstfruits, afterward they that are Christ's at His coming [parousia]" (1 Corinthians 15:20-23).
Now, notice another graphic, earth-shaking description of Christ's Second Coming:
"And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and He that sat upon him was called Faithful and true, and in righteousness He doth judge and make war.
"His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns; and He had a name written, that no man knew, but He Himself.
"And He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and His name is called The Word of God.
"And the armies which were in heaven followed Him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
"And out of His mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations: and He shall rule them with a rod of iron: and He treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
"And He hath on His vesture and on His thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
"And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
"That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
"And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him that sat on the horse, and against His army.
"And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
"And the remnant were slain with the sword of Him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of His mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh" (Revelation 19:11-21).
Anyone who believes for one instant there is anything "secretive" about this stupendous series of events is incapable of understanding plain English.
Notice further information about Christ's Second Coming:
"Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
"For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
"Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when He fought in the day of battle.
"And His feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
"And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
"And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
"But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
"And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
"And the Lord shall be King over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and His name" (Zechariah 14:1-9).
This great earthquake is also mentioned in Revelation 16:17-19, in connection with Christ's coming to smash the power of the ten kings comprising the Beast power (Revelation 17:12-14).
Clearly, the prophecy includes the battle of Armageddon (Daniel 11:40-45; Revelation 16:14-16), and the Second Coming of Christ to destroy these arms gathered against Jerusalem!
The time element is inescapable. "His feet shall stand IN THAT DAY UPON THE MOUNT OF OLIVES" is as plain as the nose on your face!
Christ is not coming in "two phases," first, "for" His saints prior to the Tribulation and Day of the Lord, and then, "with" His saints afterwards!
Clearly, the living saints will not precede those who have died down through the ages; those martyred in the first century, including Peter, James, and Paul! Instead, they are to be either resurrected, or changed, in a moment, in the "twinkling of an eye" AT THE LAST TRUMP!
The last trump is the last of the seven trumpet plagues, at the moment of the great earthquake, and the Second Coming of Christ!
I’ve noticed that eyewitness descriptions have changed from balls of light, to hubcaps, tea cup saucers, to battle stars...
At the same time so has special effects and technical expertise regarding UFO designs in film (hollywood) production.
“We are here to give you some incredible messages, and we’ve come all the way across the universe to give you this important information.”
Hmmm, so now I’m thinking about that old joke about aliens traveling great distances in their quest to administer anal probes is not a valid assumption...
In saying this I hope the truth you are referring to is merely on the issue of the identity of the restrainer.
The Antichrist/Little Horn came out of Daniel’s 4th beast and that Beast was Pagan Rome.
I suggest taking a look at this: At least get a different perspective and if you want to reject it, fine. But at least you saw it. You seem like a decent person and I respect whatever decision you make (to read or not to read)
http://who-is-the-antichrist.org/
You can also read up on the Mark of the Beast if you are so inclined.
I agree. My question is (which we both know the answer to) which would Satan want a Christian to believe?
This one below: And those who believe it will have been fooled by the great deceiver and most of them will surely perish.
Note that the pre-tribulation rapture advocates generally all say:
1. None of the seals have been opened.
2. None of the trumpets have sounded.
3. The Antichrist has not yet been revealed.
4. The form of the mark of the beast is not yet completely known.
5. The Seal of God is not yet clear.
6. The False Prophet is still unidentified.
7. The church will leave in the rapture prior to the antichrist, plagues and mark of the beast.
8. If you miss the rapture, you will get a second chance during the millennium, when God will rule on this earth for the 1000 years.
9. God is dealing differently with the Jews today, when compared to the Gentiles.
(The old adage: If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is)
NO TAKEN, NO CHOP, NO PRE TRIB RAPTURE, NO DICE!
Enoch was Raptured
What does the fact that Enoch was taken to heaven have to do with the pre-trib rapture? Was he about to suffer tribulation and God saved him from that?
For ANY who want to reason this out biblically, not from cult speak or angry 'shouting posts', Dr Andy Woods has a most convincing and thorough presentation of 2 Thess 2:3 ... and getting the meaning of this part of Paul's letter right is a real bringer of joy to the Christian spirit. The presentation from the beginning is well worth a Christian feeding upon the teaching inspired by the Holy Spirit. It will answer for most Christians the issues roiling around The Rapture / The Departure of the Body of Christ.
Suggestion: watch it then watch it again taking notes, then look up ALL the scripture references Dr Woods recites
Suggestion: watch it then watch it again taking notes, then look up ALL the scripture references Dr Woods recites
I’ve seen plenty of video from Andy Woods, Ken Johnson, Billy Crone, and many others who frequent Prophecy Watchers (all thanks to you BTW). They all still say:
I have no idea who the Antichrist is.
I have no idea what the Mark of the Beast is.
God doesn’t need us to know who the Antichrist is or what the Mark of the Beast is and I don’t know how I came to that conclusion.
I have no idea why the early church fathers would say the restrainer was actually Pagan Rome under the Caesars and not the Holy Spirit.
We pre trib believers use verses where Taken (two in the field, one is taken and one is left) to mean taken to heaven but Christ says taken is where the carcass is there will the vultures be....That doesn’t sound like going up into the clouds to meet Jesus. Oh well, we will just go with it because it fits our narrative.
I have no idea why pre trib rapture believers CHOP off the last 7 years of Daniel’s 70 week CONTINUOUS, YEAR/DAY, TIME SPECIFIC, BEGINNING AND ENDING, AND THAT RUNS CONCURRENTLY WITH THE 2300 YEAR/DAY PROPHECY, and transport it over 2000+ years into the future.
70 weeks are DETERMINED upon thy people and upon thy holy city:
- The word determined here actually means “cut off”. This 70 weeks are cut off from, or begin at the same time as, the larger 2300 day (year) prophecy of Dan 8:14, which has as it’s focus the cleansing of the sanctuary in heaven, the beginning of Judgment. So both the 70 week (490 year) and the 2300 day (year) prophecy begin at the same date. Note that you can not arbitrarily apply the year for a day principle in one case and not another, you must remain consistent. Dan 8:26 strongly hints that the 2300 day prophecy in verse 14 is not just 2300 days, but many days more than it literally indicates. This would also support using year instead of day.
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/dan927.htm
http://aloha.net/~mikesch/psttrib.htm
NO TAKEN, NO CHOP, NO PRE TRIB RAPTURE, NO DICE. Pure fantasy and a doctrine of Satan to fool Christians (and non Christians) into believing that they do not need to know any of the important stuff, like identity of the Antichrist or the MOTB. Satan says “look, nothing to see here” “You are all good to believe that you won’t have to face any tribulation” “Yeah, it’s going to be so easy” You have a way out of here free and clear and those poor suckers left during the last 7 years will be the ones to suffer, not you”
Thanks Bro!
You are most assuredly welcome! See you in the clouds ...
Amen Bro!
Every day is one day closer to that Blessed Hope!
Sounds like Paul is telling them and us that the man of sin has not yet been revealed. Amazing that God would tell cultists something He did not give even to Paul or any of the other disciples. Well of course, He hasn't, so the obsessive posts raving that someone know the identity are just cultist ravings.
That is what happens when you cannot rightly divide the word.
You apply verses that are intended for Jews to the Church (or everyone else) and you apply verses intended for the Church to Jews (or everyone else).
And the insanity that follows is continuous spam and nonsense to hammer the cultic image of their reality based on pride and works. These cults are not part of Philadelphia. Maybe Sardis?
37“Where, Lord?” they asked.
He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.”
MHGinTN and RWC say they will be "taken". Hmmmmmm!
Sounds like Paul is telling them and us that the man of sin has not yet been revealed.
2000 years ago, yes. Now that the restrainer is out of the way (AS THE EARLY CHURCH FATHERS STATE) and the books of Daniel and Revelation have been opened, we can know EXACTLY who the man of sin is (Antichrist, Little Horn). What you do not tell anyone is what the bible clues are to the identification. Why not? Why are you hiding those clues from all of us? The answer is that if you did share it, everyone would know that a pre trib rapture is impossible, BECAUSE THE ANTICHRIST IS ALREADY HERE.
Biblical clues of who the Antichrist is:
It will rise to be a great power after the fall of the pagan Roman Empire (after 476 AD)
It would uproot three of the ten kingdoms the Roman Empire collapsed into
It will be a geographically small nation (a little horn)
It will rule over many people, nations and tongues (it will be universal)
It will be headquartered in the city of seven hills, Rome
It will be a religio-political entity - a political city-state ruled by a priest-king
Its priest-king will make great and blasphemous claims
It will claim authority over all kings
It will claim its power to change the holy times and laws of God as its mark of authority
It will be an apostate Church that makes the nations drink her cup of apostate doctrine
It will be a “mother” Church, with apostate daughters coming from her
It will be a persecuting power, killing the faithful saints of Jesus Christ as heretics
It will hold power and authority for 1260 years following the fall of pagan Rome
It will suffer a deadly wound that will end 1260 years of dominance and persecution
It will be revived after the deadly wound, and all the world would wonder at its revival
So tell us, MHGinTN, who is the Man of Sin, the Antichrist, the Little Horn, ACCORDING TO THE BIBLICAL PROPHECY CLUES? Tell us. There is only one answer and it’s not (I don’t know cultist).
Who claims to change God’s prophetic times and commandment laws? WHO ON THIS EARTH RIGHT NOW CLAIMS THAT?
Should be real easy for RWC because he was there.
Come on, you can say it.....(clip from My Cousin Vinny)
“Come on, you can say it, it’s ok, I know”
Gods spirit however it is suppressed by the sin nature. Its like a tiny spark waiting for God to ignite it when you are born from above.
You apply verses that are intended for Jews to the Church (or everyone else) and you apply verses intended for the Church to Jews (or everyone else).
There is only one church and that is Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, Just one in Christ. Literal Jews are out. We are all grafted into the vine, heirs to the promise given to God’s original chosen people, Israel. We are now Israel.
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