1 posted on
02/04/2020 12:05:12 PM PST by
ebb tide
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With the Pope’s support (and some would argue pressure) the Italian Bishops’ Conference has therefore decided to change the text to, non abbandonarci alla tentazione, i.e. do not abandon us to temptation.
2 posted on
02/04/2020 12:07:08 PM PST by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
To: ebb tide
Why would that start with the Latin Vulgate to determine the correct translation for a document written in Greek. Especially when they have one of the earliest Greek manuscripts which is arguably older than the Vulgate?
To: ebb tide
5 posted on
02/04/2020 12:14:59 PM PST by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Democrats only believe in democracy when they win the election.)
To: ebb tide
The
Author of those words is above any Pope's (or any other human's) pay grade.
Stet!!!
6 posted on
02/04/2020 12:16:06 PM PST by
TXnMA
("Allah": Satan's alias | "Islam": Allah's useful idiots | Brennan & 0b0z0: Islam's useful idiots)
To: ebb tide
I was afraid it was going to be something radical, like:
And lead us not into xenophobia
But deliver us from climate change
To: ebb tide
My most recent Missal of interest was published in what..1962?
10 posted on
02/04/2020 12:30:17 PM PST by
steve86
(Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
To: ebb tide
Just be glad he doesn't want to change it to
Our Parent ...
ML/NJ
13 posted on
02/04/2020 12:41:27 PM PST by
ml/nj
To: ebb tide
I intend to say it the way I always have.
To: ebb tide
“it seems to insinuate that God actually could ‘abandon’ us in temptation which comes close to blasphemy because it puts the blame on God when we abandon him.”Good point - the change is at best no improvement.
18 posted on
02/04/2020 1:03:10 PM PST by
NobleFree
("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
To: ebb tide
Whaaattt?? Can’t hear you .....”
19 posted on
02/04/2020 1:21:40 PM PST by
bboop
(does not suffer fools gladly)
To: ebb tide; All
James 1:13 (NIV) indicates that God does not tempt anyone which is implied by “lead us not into temptation” imo.
On the other hand, 2 Timothy 2:14 shows that Paul warned against quarreling over words which Pope Francis is arguably doing.
Also, regardless that Jesus’ apostles knew the Scriptures, they failed to connect prophecy concerning Jesus with events that they had witnessed as they followed Jesus. So understanding the Scriptures is not up to the will of man imo.
In fact, Luke 24:45-46 shows that the risen Jesus opened the apostles’ minds to the Scriptures after the fact.
Paul also explained in 1 Corinthians 1:18 that the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing.
Corrections, insights welcome.
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24 posted on
02/04/2020 2:41:15 PM PST by
exPBRrat
(.)
To: ebb tide
“Here, Lord. Let me fix a few things that You got wrong”
Gotta admit, the guy has balls
25 posted on
02/04/2020 3:15:46 PM PST by
Oscar in Batangas
(January 20, 2017, High Noon. The end of an error.)
To: ebb tide
The Word of God stands above the popes. Instead of trying to change God’s Word, this pope should change himself to conform to God’s Word.
26 posted on
02/04/2020 3:15:50 PM PST by
Ullus
(Scripture Condemns Homosexuality)
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