Pat Robertson: Alabama abortion ban has ‘gone too far’

Syracuse.com via Associated Press ^ | 05/16/2019

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Conservative televangelist Pat Robertson says Alabama has

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With friends like this who needs enemies?

[chris37]

Pat, we want to end the practice of murdering our babies.

We aren’t helping our species at all.

[60Gunner]

Pat Robertson needs to shut the hell up. His credibility cache was drained decades ago.

[ClearCase_guy]

exceptions for rape or incest

Oh ... do these heinous actions justify murder?

[Blogger]

Pat needs to stop listening to himself and listen to God a bit more.

[rightwingcrazy]

Either it’s a human being, or it isn’t.

[dfwgator]

You can never go too far.

[L,TOWM]

Hey, if I need some marketing or business operations advice, I MIGHT go see Robertson.

For spiritual or ethical guidance, I know a handful of local preachers and one in Durban (South Africa) I would gladly listen to. Never Robertson...

[Alberta's Child]

No offense to Pat Robertson, but it's been obvious to me for years that he is a businessman first and a political figure second.

The job title "religious leader" comes in a distant third for him.

[cuban leaf]

If you want exceptions for rape and incest, you are not truly pro-life.

It is a simple proposition: Is the fetus an innocent human being? It is, even in cases of rape and incest. Therefore, if someone claims to be pro life BECAUSE abortion terminates the life of an innocent human being, they are against abortion even in cases of rape and incest. Any other position goes against their core justification for being pro-life.

BTW, “for the life of the mother” (not health, but LIFE) is acceptable because the fetus is no longer “innocent”. It may not be doing anything on purpose, but the procedure is literally to save a life, and without the mother, the baby won’t survive anyway. And if it is old enough to be “viable” outside the womb, abortion isn’t necessary - it becomes a birth.

[budj]

Why, exactly, "No offense to Pat Robertson?"

It's eminently offensive to justify killing an unborn baby by compounding a previous, hideous crime.

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RE: If you want exceptions for rape and incest, you are not truly pro-life.

Robertson is concerned with forcing the mother, the victim of a forced pregnancy ( rape or incest ), to raise a child she never wanted in the first place. I think that was his rationale for speaking out.

[Governor Dinwiddie]

Deceptive headlines.

I saw Pat on the 700 Club when he said this. He awkwardly misspoke (which he does more and more) when trying to get the point across that this law will be vigorously challenged; this law is the beginning not then end.

Pat is old and often gets tongue-tied, more and more of late. Anyone who says Pat Robertson is anything but 100% anti-abortion and prolife is trying to sow discord.
 

[dfwgator]

Robertson is concerned with forcing the mother, the victim of a forced pregnancy ( rape or incest ), to raise a child she never wanted in the first place.

That's what adoption is for.

[Alberta's Child]

He's raising what he believes is a perfectly legitimate political point. If he was a political figure (not a judge, mind you), his approach might have some value in a political process.

He's operating under the wrong legal/moral premise that overturning Roe v. Wade will push the issue of abortion back to the states. There is no rational basis for anyone with a clear moral compass to believe that. There are only two alternatives that will work here: (1) unfettered access to legalized abortion for any reason for the entire term of pregnancy, or (2) full legal recognition of an unborn child as a human being who has every legal protection available to all Americans under the law.

[srmorton]

I was watching the show this morning when he said it. Since he has a law backgroud, he was thinking about using that particular bill as a challenge to Roe vs. Wade. He thought it might not be the best choice for that purpose. He said, as he does frequently, that Roe vs. Wade was bad law and needs to be overturned.

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RE: That’s what adoption is for.

I agree. But may I ask a question — how does a pro-life center refer a pregnant victim of rape or incest to an adoption center?

[jmaroneps37]

So how much violation of God’s commandment against killing do you approve of Mister Robertson?

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RE: Since he has a law backgroud, he was thinking about using that particular bill as a challenge to Roe vs. Wade.

I believe Robertson’s plan is not ideological but practical. He wants INCREMENTALISM. The problem with this, is he does not define or outline what his view of incrementalism is...

Is the rape or incest option incremental, eventually to be replaced with a total ban with the exception of the life of the mother? He does not say.

[edwinland]

Pat is old and often gets tongue-tied, more and more of late. Anyone who says Pat Robertson is anything but 100% anti-abortion and prolife is trying to sow discord.

To quote Pat Robertson when he wasn't very old and tounge tied:

I don't agree with forced abortion, but I don't think the United States needs to interfere with what they're doing internally in this regard."

"I don't agree with it, but at the same time they've got 1.2 billion people and they don't know what to do,"

I guess you have a point. He's 100% pro-life and against FORCED abortions ...

"...but"