Roman Catholic Bible Study Method:
1. What did Rome tell me?
2. Read the passage.
3. It means what Rome said.
Posted on 12/29/2018 6:57:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind
MANILA, Philippines – President Rodrigo Duterte mocked the Christian doctrine of the Holy Trinity, calling it “silly” on Saturday, December 29.
In a speech in Kidapawan City, Cotabato, the President attacked the doctrine of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit as he once again went into a tirade against priests and the Catholic Church.
"You’re already praying at one God, then you’re going to pray at these cursed saints. There’s only one God. There’s only one God, period. You cannot divide God into 3, that’s silly,” said the President.
Before attacking the Holy Trinity doctrine, Duterte said Jesus Christ is “unimpressive” because he had allowed himself to be nailed on the cross.
"Your God was nailed on the cross. How unimpressive. I’m God and you will crucify me? I’d tell them, ‘Lightning, finish all of them. Burn all the non-believers.'"
The passion, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ is among the central doctrines of Christian faith, with Christians believing that Jesus sacrificed himself to save the world from sin.
The President likewise belittled the belief in saints, whom he previously called as “fools” and “drunkards.”
"Saint Catalina, Saint Anne, Saint Thomas, Saint Sebastian, Saint Rodrigo, they’re nothing… I don’t know them. Look, those documents were written – if at all – 3,000 years ago. Why would they care about our lives now?"
"Who wrote about them? Who’s Saint Thomas? We don’t know who they are. That might even be a name for a cow or camel then"
The President – under whose term a string of priests have been murdered – had previously stirred controversy for calling God “stupid."
On December 6, Duterte even joked that bishops should be “killed” for supposedly doing nothing but criticizing his administration, which is waging a bloody war against drugs that has killed thousands.
Roman Catholic Bible Study Method:
1. What did Rome tell me?
2. Read the passage.
3. It means what Rome said.
Let me give you a helpful maxim, which is true always and forever, and should help to guide you for the rest of your life. Here it goes:
Whenever it comes to a discrepancy or contradiction between the personal interpretation of a biblical text by a man called "Elsie", and a directive of the Holy Spirit (God) to one of the biblical authors to write something seemingly contradictory (like actually having them call various men "father" in the inspired Bible), God is always right, and the man called "Elsie" is always wrong, without exception. In other words, if a man called "Elsie" interprets something in the Scriptures to mean something that directly contradicts something that God teaches by direct example elsewhere in the Scriptures, that man named Elsie's interpretation is always wrong, and God is always right.So, obviously, your interpretation of what Jesus was actually saying there has to be wrong, since it involves the Holy Spirit (God) directing various authors of the Holy Scriptures to write something in direct violation of what you personally interpret Jesus to have literally meant when He said to call no one "father". The truth is, when preaching and teaching, Jesus often used exaggerations and hyperbole, which were obviously not to be taken literally, in order to to make a point in a stronger, more powerful way, as is often done by folks in the Holy Land. For example, when Jesus said the following, do you think He really meant that they should literally pluck their eyes out?
"And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell." Matthew 5:29
And when Jesus said the following, do you think He literally meant that all disciples of His should actually hate their fathers, and hate their mothers, and hate their wives, and hate their children, and hate their brothers and sisters, and hate their own life?
"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." Luke 14:26
If that is what He actually meant there, He would be directly contradicting Himself, when He said we should love one another, and that we should honor our father and our mother, as shown in the following texts.
"A new commandment I give unto you, that ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another." John 13:34
"This is my commandment, that ye love one another, as I have loved you." John 15:12
And he said unto him, "Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." He saith unto him, "Which?" Jesus said, "Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." Matthew 19:17-19
Jesus was obviously speaking hyperbolically in those other texts (as He often did), in order to simply make a point more emphatically.
Here are some additional resources which should help clear up the confusion you have about this question.
That’s it in a nutshell.
Which further complicates things for RCs as Rome has only dogmatically defined less than an estimated 30 verses.
There is a book called “Crazy Love”. A religous book on how crazy (silly?) God’s love for us sinners is. It does seem “silly” sometimes when we try to comprehend the ways of God with our puny minds.
I’m sure others have posted - but that is one of the big things muslims hate about Christians - they think we are multi-theistic and worship three different gods.
Your reactions seem angry and condescending.
I’m asking you how exactly you’re supposed to interpret the statement because you can’t ignore it, not asking for a torrent of accusations and bile.
Nice job on grasping the basics of sola scriptura interpretation though.
The articles posted in defense of the RC insistence on calling their priests and pope “Father” continue to show a lack of understanding on how to properly handle the Scriptures.
τοῦτον ἐγὼ τὸν κανόνα καὶ τὸν τύπον παρὰ τοῦ μακαρίου πάπα ἡμῶν Ἡρακλᾶ παρέλαβον.[6]
Which translates into:
I received this rule and ordinance from our blessed father/pope, Heraclas.[7][8]
From the early 3rd century the title was applied generically to all bishops.[9][10] The earliest extant record of the word papa being used in reference to a Bishop of Rome dates to late 3rd century, when it was applied to Pope Marcellinus.[11]
According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the earliest recorded use of the title "pope" in English is in an Old English translation (c. 950) of Bede's Ecclesiastical History of the English People:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_(word)
Apparently you don’t understand context.
That’s true bro, but this is what bothers me about the whole thing. Eternity is at stake here, and eternity is far too long, to mess it up. Relying on false interpretations and random verses, is dangerous to one’s eternal security. You would think, if one keeps encountering opposition, that it might motivate one, to figure out why, but it doesn’t seem to make a dent in anyone’s mind. My opinion is, it’s all about 1st Corinthians 2:14.
Since you know, I live in the belly of the beast, 🇵🇭 many of them are like the Bereans. They are open to the truth, and many are leaving the false religions behind. 👍😇
Ok....your point...if there is one?
You're handling of the Scriptures is so out of context as is your understanding of them.
Sounds like a nice guy with more bible training than most Roman priests.
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