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The Ancient, Biblical Christian Practice of Venerating Relics
https://aleteia.org/2013/09/17/the-ancient-biblical-christian-practice-of-venerating-relics/ ^ | 9/17/2013 | Brantly Millegan

Posted on 06/18/2017 2:20:09 PM PDT by narses

The veneration of relics is so obviously just a late medieval corruption of the faith, right? Actually, it comes from the Bible and the first Christians.

A speck of bone, their childhood shoes, even a drop of blood? If anything is distinctive of the devotional practices of the Catholic Church compared to Protestant Christians, it’s the Church's practices surrounding relics.

Relics are the remains of those recognized as saints, whether it is a part of their body (first degree relic), something they owned (second degree relic), or even, though less impressive, objects that have touched a first or second degree relic (third degree relic). Catholics carefully preserve relics, honor them, and even sometimes claim miracles in connection with them.

Catholics insist they are honoring Jesus' servants and in doing so are honoring Jesus. But to many Protestants, the whole practice seems at best very strange, at worst idolatrous, and, either way, in the very least, easily dismissed as just another late medieval corruption of the Catholic Church.

So Protestants (and Catholics) may be surprised to learn that the Church’s beliefs and practices surrounding relics actually come from the Bible and the early Church.

Relics in the Bible

In the Old Testament book 2 Kings, we find an curious story in which God works a miracle through the dead remains of one of his holy servants:

Elisha died and was buried. Now Moabite raiders used to enter the country every spring. Once while some Israelites were burying a man, suddenly they saw a band of raiders; so they threw the man’s body into Elisha’s tomb. When the body touched Elisha’s bones, the man came to life and stood up on his feet. (2 Kings 13.20-22) In the New Testament, we find two instances of God working through objects related to holy people. The first comes from the Gospel of Mark and is related to Jesus:

When she heard about Jesus, she came up behind him in the crowd and touched his cloak, because she thought, “If I just touch his clothes, I will be healed.” Immediately her bleeding stopped and she felt in her body that she was freed from her suffering. (Mark 5.27-29) And the second comes from the book of Acts and is related to the Apostle Paul:

God did extraordinary miracles through Paul, so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them. (Acts 19.11-12) We can see in both the Old and the New Testaments the precedence for thinking that God could work miracles through each of the kinds of relics: a first degree relic in the case of Elisha’s body, a second degree relic in the case of Jesus’ clothes, and a third degree relic in the case of the the items Paul had touched. Technically, the Church holds any object related to Christ to be a first degree relic since Jesus is, after all, God incarnate, but the point here is that there is a clear precedence in Scripture for thinking that God could work a miracle through the belonging of a holy person.

Relics in the Early Church

But did the first Christians really take those Scriptures to mean they should start preserving people’s bones?

Yes. St Polycarp, a disciple of the Apostle John and the bishop of Smyrna, was martyred in Rome around the year A.D. 155 and an account was composed soon after known as the Martyrdom of Polycarp, in which we find this passage:

[After Bishop Polycarp was martyred in a Roman stadium] But when the adversary of the race of the righteous, the envious, malicious, and wicked one [Satan], perceived the impressive nature of his martyrdom, and [considered] the blameless life he had led from the beginning, and how he was now crowned with the wreath of immortality, having beyond dispute received his reward, he did his utmost that not the least memorial of him should be taken away by us [Christians], although many desired to do this, and to become possessors of his holy flesh. For this end he [Satan] suggested it to Nicetes, the father of Herod and brother of Alce, to go and entreat the governor not to give up his body to be buried, lest, said he, forsaking Him that was crucified, they begin to worship this one. This he said…being ignorant of this, that it is neither possible for us ever to forsake Christ, who suffered for the salvation of such as shall be saved throughout the whole world (the blameless one for sinners ), nor to worship any other. For Him indeed, as being the Son of God, we adore; but the martyrs, as disciples and followers of the Lord, we worthily love on account of their extraordinary affection towards their own King and Master, of whom may we also be made companions and fellow disciples!

Notice that it is the pagan Roman official, at the suggestion of the Devil, who doesn't want the Christians to take relics because the Christians might end up worshiping Polycarp instead of Jesus. And it is the Christians who, while fully conscious of the fact they worship God alone, still want to honor His servants by honoring their relics.

Also notice that the practice is not regarded as novel or controversial among the Christians. In fact, Satan is portrayed as being aware of the fact that Christians preserve and venerate the remains of martyrs, which is why he tries to stop this from happening with the remains of St Polycarp. All of this implies the practice predates St Polycarp’s martyrdom. Since St Polycarp was martyred around A.D. 155, and the last Apostle, John, died somewhere around A.D. 90 to 100, it’s quite possible that the practice of preserving and venerating the remains of the martyrs dates back to the time of the Apostles, and may have had their explicit approval (otherwise, if they had known about the veneration of relics, and if it had been wrong, they would have told people not to do it).

There are many other examples from the early Church of Christians preserving and venerating the relics of Christians who had died, but St Jerome in the 4th century sums of the sentiments of the early Church the best:

We, it is true, refuse to worship or adore, I say not [just] the relics of the martyrs, but even the sun and moon, the angels and archangels, Cherubim and Seraphim and every name that is named, not only in this world but also in that which is to come. For we may not serve the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Still, we honour the relics of the martyrs, that we may adore Him whose martyrs they are. We honour the servants that their honour may be reflected upon their Lord who Himself says:— “he that receives you receives me." […] If the relics of the martyrs are not worthy of honour, how comes it that we read “precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints?” (Letter 109, 1, 2) The early Christians saw the veneration of relics not only as not in competition with their unique worship of God but as an important part of it.

So What’s Really the “Late Corruption”?

The Catholic beliefs and practices surrounding relics are based firmly on Scripture and the practices of the early Church. Catholics venerate relics today just as Christians have be doing since the earliest times of the faith. Ironically, this means the Protestant rejection of relics is the late corruption of the faith, while the Catholic practice is in fact representative of original Christianity.

No doubt, as with anything good, the veneration of relics can be abused, but the wholesale rejection of it by Protestants is an overreaction, “throwing out the baby with the bathwater.” Catholics, on the other hand, should confidently carry on with their good and holy veneration of relics – and perhaps reintroduce their Protestant brothers and sisters to the ancient Christian practice.


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1 posted on 06/18/2017 2:20:09 PM PDT by narses
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To: narses

Must be a big Father’s Day sale on old Red Herrings!

“If anything is distinctive of the devotional practices of the Catholic Church compared to Protestant Christians, it’s the Church’s practices surrounding relics.”

Yes, idolatry became firmly rooted when paganism became tradition in Rome.


2 posted on 06/18/2017 2:23:07 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: narses

As with anything we encounter in life, abuses can and do occur. We do not despise the things of the creation, nor do we idolize them. There may be a salutary use for relics (as defined herein), but the substance of all that matters is the Body of Christ.

It is unfortunate to see general Protests go overboard in rejecting relics altogether, but it would be a mistake to insist upon the acceptance of relics as a condition of faith or salvation.

LORD, have mercy upon us.


3 posted on 06/18/2017 2:37:29 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (Lock. Them. Up.)
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To: narses
In the accounts from the OT and NT instant results were seen from the various encounters with the bones in the case of the OT and with the Apostles in the NT.

What we do not see in Roman Catholicism is the same instantaneous result.

In addition, we're not told to keep or to "venerate" the bones or pieces of cloth from the Apostles.

That is where the Roman Catholic again veers off into error.

For the Roman Catholic they've become an item of worship...aka an idol.

4 posted on 06/18/2017 2:50:09 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: narses
Relics as physical evidence of the ministry of Christ and His followers? Yes. They can be appreciated.

Relics as the focal point of faith to the point that they are seen as conduits to God and instruments of power and obligatory veneration?

That way lies idolatry most foul.

5 posted on 06/18/2017 3:03:18 PM PDT by Ciaphas Cain (I don't give a damn about your feelings. Try to impress me with your convictions.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Yes, idolatry became firmly rooted when paganism became tradition in Rome

Bingo

6 posted on 06/18/2017 3:06:04 PM PDT by ducttape45 (Every Saint has a past, Every Sinner has a Future!)
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To: ealgeone

“For the Roman Catholic they’ve become an item of worship...aka an idol.”

Nope.


7 posted on 06/18/2017 3:11:32 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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To: ealgeone

“What we do not see in Roman Catholicism is the same instantaneous result.”

Wrong. Again.


8 posted on 06/18/2017 3:12:02 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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To: narses
Wrong. Again.

There should never be a sick Roman Catholic ever again.

9 posted on 06/18/2017 3:15:22 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: narses

Using people’s healing because they touched Jesus or his clothing is hardly a rational way to explain relics

If you think a relic is going to save your soul so be it

My salvation comes by God’s grace and the belief in His only begotten Som


10 posted on 06/18/2017 3:27:11 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: narses

Belief is part of this equation, too. Many on this thread are forgetting that.


11 posted on 06/18/2017 3:30:49 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: narses
The Ancient, Biblical Christian Practice of Venerating Relics
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12 posted on 06/18/2017 3:37:50 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: narses

“When she heard about Jesus, she came up behind him in the crowd and touched his cloak, because she thought, “If I just touch his clothes, I will be healed.” Immediately her bleeding stopped and she felt in her body that she was freed from her suffering. (Mark 5.27-29)”

Maybe you ought to read the next two or so verses- The Lord asks “who touched me?” the disciples were a bit amazed, as there was a crowd pressing in on them, Jesus states that He knew “power had gone out of Him” ( I think He knew more than that, though, he was asking rhetorically IMO- the event was to describe the type of living faith He provided and that the woman appropriated for herself....).

Well, golly, there you have it, the hem of His robe did the miracle, not the Lord Himself.

The Lord then discusses the instance with the woman ( who by Hebrew laws was not supposed to be out on public due to her condition, let alone touch a man). He kinda sorta states that “her faith” made her well ( He didn’t mention the hem of his garment, she did).

How do you get a doctrine to venerate ( worship??) a piece of clothing or a part of a dead man from these instances of scriptural events?

Worship the LORD, He is living and is seated at the right hand of the Father until all enemies are made his footstool....

Regards;


13 posted on 06/18/2017 3:39:53 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Salvation

...such a concise list of idols.

Thanks for posting.


14 posted on 06/18/2017 4:12:03 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Manly Warrior

That is a very good post. Also, re the bones of Elisha. The bones were in his grave. I.e.: they had not been preserved or given special treatment. The contact with them was purely circumstantial: adead man was thrown into the grave as a result of fear—the Moabite raiders were coming.

Most importantly: the Scripture says nothing about veneration in the aftermath. Even though a miracle occurred, there is no record of subsequent attention accorded to these bones. In all of the Bible, this is the only reference to them.

If bones or clothing were meant to be venerated, we’d see an example of it. A chance, one-off encounter with bones in a grave is not veneration.

Also, while it’s true that handkerchiefs and aprons were carried from Paul’s body to the sick, we’re not told that these items were subsequently venerated. It would have been a trivial addition to the text to add such language, but it’s absent. If we were meant to preserve and give special treatment to such objects, why wouldn’t God have made it clear?


15 posted on 06/18/2017 4:18:12 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic wotk using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Article states....”Relics are the remains of those recognized as saints, whether it is a part of their body (first degree relic), something they owned (second degree relic), or even, though less impressive, objects that have touched a first or second degree relic (third degree relic). Catholics carefully preserve relics, honor them, and even sometimes claim miracles in connection with them.”.....

Why anyone would “preserve dead body parts” and display them for worship is beyond any Christianity I have studied.....that is just too close to cultish behavior if not actual.


16 posted on 06/18/2017 4:24:10 PM PDT by caww
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To: Ciaphas Cain
Article states..." Catholics..... should confidently carry on with their good and holy veneration of relics – and perhaps reintroduce their Protestant brothers and sisters to the ancient Christian practice.".....

Not in my lifetime!..Never would I Kiss a dead body part, or stand before a golden image holding a tooth begging for a miracle, nor kneel before the in prayer as depicted in these photos.... Roman Catholics claim that they do not worship relics.... That is a gross lie.... this is damnable idolatry behavior and a spectacular form of paganism.


17 posted on 06/18/2017 4:42:01 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

“Why anyone would “preserve dead body parts” and display them for worshi...”

Pagan practice, with ncorporated under Rome and now claimed as tradition.

At one time, 18 different churches claimed to have the foreskin of Jesus’ circumcision as their relic.

My favorite is the church that claims to have the mother’s milk of Mary.


18 posted on 06/18/2017 4:45:18 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

An example of such a relic would be NEHUSHTAN.

Made:
Numbers 21:8
Then the LORD said to Moses, “Make a fiery serpent, and set it on a standard; and it shall come about, that everyone who is bitten, when he looks at it, he will live.”

Numbers 21:9
And Moses made a bronze serpent and set it on the standard; and it came about, that if a serpent bit any man, when he looked to the bronze serpent, he lived.

Destroyed:
He removed the high places, smashed the sacred stones and cut down the Asherah poles. He broke into pieces the bronze snake Moses had made, for up to that time the Israelites had been burning incense to it. (It was called Nehushtan.)


19 posted on 06/18/2017 6:05:31 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: ealgeone

And the early church was not error free. By the time Paul was writing Gnosticism and dualism were already cropping up


20 posted on 06/18/2017 6:08:34 PM PDT by Mom MD
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