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To: narses

“When she heard about Jesus, she came up behind him in the crowd and touched his cloak, because she thought, “If I just touch his clothes, I will be healed.” Immediately her bleeding stopped and she felt in her body that she was freed from her suffering. (Mark 5.27-29)”

Maybe you ought to read the next two or so verses- The Lord asks “who touched me?” the disciples were a bit amazed, as there was a crowd pressing in on them, Jesus states that He knew “power had gone out of Him” ( I think He knew more than that, though, he was asking rhetorically IMO- the event was to describe the type of living faith He provided and that the woman appropriated for herself....).

Well, golly, there you have it, the hem of His robe did the miracle, not the Lord Himself.

The Lord then discusses the instance with the woman ( who by Hebrew laws was not supposed to be out on public due to her condition, let alone touch a man). He kinda sorta states that “her faith” made her well ( He didn’t mention the hem of his garment, she did).

How do you get a doctrine to venerate ( worship??) a piece of clothing or a part of a dead man from these instances of scriptural events?

Worship the LORD, He is living and is seated at the right hand of the Father until all enemies are made his footstool....

Regards;


13 posted on 06/18/2017 3:39:53 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Manly Warrior

That is a very good post. Also, re the bones of Elisha. The bones were in his grave. I.e.: they had not been preserved or given special treatment. The contact with them was purely circumstantial: adead man was thrown into the grave as a result of fear—the Moabite raiders were coming.

Most importantly: the Scripture says nothing about veneration in the aftermath. Even though a miracle occurred, there is no record of subsequent attention accorded to these bones. In all of the Bible, this is the only reference to them.

If bones or clothing were meant to be venerated, we’d see an example of it. A chance, one-off encounter with bones in a grave is not veneration.

Also, while it’s true that handkerchiefs and aprons were carried from Paul’s body to the sick, we’re not told that these items were subsequently venerated. It would have been a trivial addition to the text to add such language, but it’s absent. If we were meant to preserve and give special treatment to such objects, why wouldn’t God have made it clear?


15 posted on 06/18/2017 4:18:12 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic wotk using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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