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An added gem from Bergoglio:

"He (Francis) urged them (priests) to “support” all couples who have determined by themselves that their marriage is invalid and want it officially declared as such."

1 posted on 02/27/2017 3:45:40 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

What?


2 posted on 02/27/2017 3:47:42 PM PST by GregB (Prayers to Pennsylvania Mom's family.)
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To: ebb tide

The Gospel says, Go, and sin no more!


3 posted on 02/27/2017 3:49:05 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: ebb tide
Every single position I've heard this Pope take on matters of great importance has been in direct opposition to everything the nuns taught me in the 1950’s and 1960’s.
4 posted on 02/27/2017 3:55:18 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: ebb tide

All this because his DIVORCED NIECE is Living with someone and wants to be able to receive Holy Communion!!


5 posted on 02/27/2017 3:55:22 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ebb tide

If this is TRUE, the Pope is a HERETIC!!!


6 posted on 02/27/2017 3:57:33 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ebb tide

“Go and sin no more.” seems to have been replaced with the tag from an old country song “I guess it doesn’t matter anymore.”


7 posted on 02/27/2017 4:02:23 PM PST by jimfree (My16 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: ebb tide

[The pope did not ask priests to admonish such couples for living in grave sin nor did he ask them to work for their conversion and repentance.]

Some wrongly think that love is opposed to discipline. But the Bible is clear that we cannot love our brothers and sisters in Christ if we do not deal with their sins in the way that God prescribes. Because God loves us, He disciplines us so that we may share His holiness (Heb. 12:6, 10). Because sin destroys people and relationships, to be indifferent toward someone who is sinning is really to hate that person.

https://bible.org/article/dealing-sinning-christians-overview-church-discipline-matthew-1815-17-1-corinthians-51-13


8 posted on 02/27/2017 4:03:43 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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How the hell did this CLOWN become Pope?? ...and I am a Catholic...a pissed off Catholic


9 posted on 02/27/2017 4:35:11 PM PST by RaginRak
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To: ebb tide

#1

The Catechism of the Catholic Church calls fornication “gravely contrary to the dignity of persons and of human sexuality which is naturally ordered to the good of spouses and the generation and education of children.”

It further states that situations such as cohabitation “offend against the dignity of marriage; they destroy the very idea of the family; they weaken the sense of fidelity. They are contrary to the moral law. The sexual act must take place exclusively within marriage. Outside of marriage it always constitutes a grave sin and excludes one from sacramental communion.”

CCC is ultimately the condensed Magisterium of Our Holy Faith, and thus; it is the very words/teachings of Our Lord - regarding cohabitation (properly interpreted) and so should NEVER be twisted in such a disingenuous way.

Jesus spoke VERY clearly to the ancients, as well as the neo-post-modernists in our present days...


10 posted on 02/27/2017 4:36:52 PM PST by heterosupremacist (Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
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Would I be incorrect in saying that Pope Francis is doing for the Catholic Church what Barack Obama did to the Democrat Party? Sure looks like it.


12 posted on 02/27/2017 5:23:16 PM PST by Trumpnado2016 (It's time for America to dream again.)
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I’ll take the words of Jesus Christ from last Friday’s Gospel.

Gospel Mk 10:1-12

Jesus came into the district of Judea and across the Jordan.
Again crowds gathered around him and, as was his custom,
he again taught them.
The Pharisees approached him and asked,
“Is it lawful for a husband to divorce his wife?”
They were testing him.
He said to them in reply, “What did Moses command you?”
They replied,
“Moses permitted a husband to write a bill of divorce
and dismiss her.”
But Jesus told them,
“Because of the hardness of your hearts
he wrote you this commandment.
But from the beginning of creation, God made them male and female.
For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother
and be joined to his wife,
and the two shall become one flesh.
So they are no longer two but one flesh.
Therefore what God has joined together,
no human being must separate.”
In the house the disciples again questioned Jesus about this.
He said to them,
“Whoever divorces his wife and marries another
commits adultery against her;
and if she divorces her husband and marries another,
she commits adultery.”


13 posted on 02/27/2017 5:26:29 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Ok, new marriage procedure:

people who ARE married but want a divorce are really NOT married because they have decided together that their marriage is invalid.

People who are NOT married and have no intention to marry, but are cohabiting, really ARE married because of fidelity.


14 posted on 02/27/2017 5:35:06 PM PST by opus1
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To: ebb tide
Last year Francis said that cohabitating couples are in a “real marriage” and receive the grace of the Sacrament. “I’ve seen a lot of fidelity in these cohabitations, and I am sure that this is a real marriage, they have the grace of a real marriage because of their fidelity,” he said at that time.

Is this fake news ?
18 posted on 02/27/2017 6:15:12 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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Actually, I do not have a problem with this. He is calling on them to witness to them regarding the sacrament. Do you support the sinner who has determined that their sin is in grave danger and answers the call to forgiveness? I sure hope to hell you do!!!

Full context requoted:
Francis told the priests that for “every person and every situation you are called to be fellow travelers to witness and support.”

He urged them to “support” all couples who have determined by themselves that their marriage is invalid and want it officially declared as such.

“When you offer this witness, may your care be also to support all those who have realized the fact that their union is not a true sacramental marriage and want to come out of this situation. In this delicate and necessary work, proceed in such a way that your faithful recognize you not so much as experts of bureaucratic acts or juridical norms, but as brothers who put themselves in an attitude of listening and of understanding,” he said.


66 posted on 02/28/2017 5:14:39 AM PST by EBH (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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bump


82 posted on 03/02/2017 6:00:21 PM PST by foreverfree
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